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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 04:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Artha,
I hope you are wrong but I fear you are right.  Thank you.
Greg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Artha,<br />
I hope you are wrong but I fear you are right.  Thank you.<br />
Greg</p>
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		<title>By: Artha</title>
		<link>http://usawatchdog.com/america-has-its-own-pigs/#comment-2504</link>
		<dc:creator>Artha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2010 13:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The financial crisis will be over when the average income of Americans is equal to the Chinese and Indian workers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The financial crisis will be over when the average income of Americans is equal to the Chinese and Indian workers.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Thrasher</title>
		<link>http://usawatchdog.com/america-has-its-own-pigs/#comment-913</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Thrasher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 12:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meanwhile back at the PIIG Ranch. Two I&#039;s because Ireland has joined the club.

From The Baseline Scenario, Revised Baseline Scenario 02/09/2010

The following material was the basis of testimony to the Senate Budget Committee today by Simon Johnson.

2) But thinking in terms of these headline numbers masks a much more worrying dynamic.  A major sovereign debt crisis is gathering steam in Europe, focused for now on the weaker countries in the eurozone, but with the potential to spillover also to the United Kingdom.  These further financial market disruptions will not only slow the European economies – we estimate growth in the euro area will fall to around 0.5 percent Q4 on Q4 (the IMF puts this at 1.1 percent, but the January World Economic Outlook update was prepared before the Greek crisis broke in earnest) – it will also cause the euro to weaken and lower growth around the world.

3) There are some European efforts underway to limit debt crisis to Greece and to prevent the further spread of damage.  But these efforts are too little and too late.  The IMF also cannot be expected to play any meaningful role in the near term.  Portugal, Ireland, Italy, Greece, and Spain – a group known to the markets as PIIGS, will all come under severe pressure from speculative attacks on their credit.  These attacks are motivated by fiscal weakness and made possible by the reluctance of relatively strong European countries to help out the PIIGS.  (Section B below has more detail.)

4)  Financial market participants buy and sell insurance for sovereign and bank debt through the credit default swap market.  None of the opaqueness of the credit default swap market has been addressed since the crisis of September 2008, so it is hard to know what happens as governments further lose their credit worthiness.  Generalized counter-party risk – the fear that an insurer will fail and thus bring down all connected banks – is again on the table, as it was after the collapse of Lehman. 

5) Another Lehman/AIG-type situation lurks somewhere on the European continent, and again G7 (and G20) leaders are slow to see the risk.  This time, given that they already used almost all their scope for fiscal stimulus, it will be considerably more difficult for governments to respond effectively if the crisis comes.

6) In such a situation, we should expect that investors scramble for the safest assets available – “cash”, which means short-term US government securities.  It is not that the US has anything approaching a credible medium-term fiscal framework, but everyone else is in much worse shape.

The entire report is available here:

http://baselinescenario.com/2010/02/09/revised-baseline-scenario-february-9-2010/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meanwhile back at the PIIG Ranch. Two I&#8217;s because Ireland has joined the club.</p>
<p>From The Baseline Scenario, Revised Baseline Scenario 02/09/2010</p>
<p>The following material was the basis of testimony to the Senate Budget Committee today by Simon Johnson.</p>
<p>2) But thinking in terms of these headline numbers masks a much more worrying dynamic.  A major sovereign debt crisis is gathering steam in Europe, focused for now on the weaker countries in the eurozone, but with the potential to spillover also to the United Kingdom.  These further financial market disruptions will not only slow the European economies – we estimate growth in the euro area will fall to around 0.5 percent Q4 on Q4 (the IMF puts this at 1.1 percent, but the January World Economic Outlook update was prepared before the Greek crisis broke in earnest) – it will also cause the euro to weaken and lower growth around the world.</p>
<p>3) There are some European efforts underway to limit debt crisis to Greece and to prevent the further spread of damage.  But these efforts are too little and too late.  The IMF also cannot be expected to play any meaningful role in the near term.  Portugal, Ireland, Italy, Greece, and Spain – a group known to the markets as PIIGS, will all come under severe pressure from speculative attacks on their credit.  These attacks are motivated by fiscal weakness and made possible by the reluctance of relatively strong European countries to help out the PIIGS.  (Section B below has more detail.)</p>
<p>4)  Financial market participants buy and sell insurance for sovereign and bank debt through the credit default swap market.  None of the opaqueness of the credit default swap market has been addressed since the crisis of September 2008, so it is hard to know what happens as governments further lose their credit worthiness.  Generalized counter-party risk – the fear that an insurer will fail and thus bring down all connected banks – is again on the table, as it was after the collapse of Lehman. </p>
<p>5) Another Lehman/AIG-type situation lurks somewhere on the European continent, and again G7 (and G20) leaders are slow to see the risk.  This time, given that they already used almost all their scope for fiscal stimulus, it will be considerably more difficult for governments to respond effectively if the crisis comes.</p>
<p>6) In such a situation, we should expect that investors scramble for the safest assets available – “cash”, which means short-term US government securities.  It is not that the US has anything approaching a credible medium-term fiscal framework, but everyone else is in much worse shape.</p>
<p>The entire report is available here:</p>
<p><a href="http://baselinescenario.com/2010/02/09/revised-baseline-scenario-february-9-2010/" rel="nofollow">http://baselinescenario.com/2010/02/09/revised-baseline-scenario-february-9-2010/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://usawatchdog.com/america-has-its-own-pigs/#comment-910</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 05:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pat,
That depends on what kind of debt it is ...A house with a $30K mortgage...don&#039;t pay it off because you are probably paying mostly principle.  A car?  Credit cards?  Probably a good idea if you can pay that kind of debt off.   We are in uncharted territory in this economy...there is no telling what will happen or how bad this will get... and I guarantee you the economy will be getting much worse for a much longer time than most people think.  Please protect yourself.
Greg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pat,<br />
That depends on what kind of debt it is &#8230;A house with a $30K mortgage&#8230;don&#8217;t pay it off because you are probably paying mostly principle.  A car?  Credit cards?  Probably a good idea if you can pay that kind of debt off.   We are in uncharted territory in this economy&#8230;there is no telling what will happen or how bad this will get&#8230; and I guarantee you the economy will be getting much worse for a much longer time than most people think.  Please protect yourself.<br />
Greg</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 01:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wouldn&#039;t it be better NOT to pay off my debts if we get increased inflation?  I would be paying off old debt with cheaper dollars, and I could use the larger stash of cash to get me over the hump.  I only owe a small mortgage of $30,000, but maybe it would be even better to refinance, save the money, and pay off the mortgage with cheaper dollars.

We have bought gold coins, are totally out of the stock market with our retirement funds, and even bought Australian dollars as a hedge for emergency.  Australia does not have a trade deficit, they export oil and gas to China, and they have raised their interest rates.  It seemed like a good idea at the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it be better NOT to pay off my debts if we get increased inflation?  I would be paying off old debt with cheaper dollars, and I could use the larger stash of cash to get me over the hump.  I only owe a small mortgage of $30,000, but maybe it would be even better to refinance, save the money, and pay off the mortgage with cheaper dollars.</p>
<p>We have bought gold coins, are totally out of the stock market with our retirement funds, and even bought Australian dollars as a hedge for emergency.  Australia does not have a trade deficit, they export oil and gas to China, and they have raised their interest rates.  It seemed like a good idea at the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Thrasher</title>
		<link>http://usawatchdog.com/america-has-its-own-pigs/#comment-906</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Thrasher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>George, you speak for tens of millions. Who or what can we trust IS the pertinent question of our time. Generally, I prefer credit unions for safety.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George, you speak for tens of millions. Who or what can we trust IS the pertinent question of our time. Generally, I prefer credit unions for safety.</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
		<link>http://usawatchdog.com/america-has-its-own-pigs/#comment-904</link>
		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 13:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are there really any safe institutions? Things are more interconnected now than in the so called “Great Depression”.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are there really any safe institutions? Things are more interconnected now than in the so called “Great Depression”.</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
		<link>http://usawatchdog.com/america-has-its-own-pigs/#comment-903</link>
		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 13:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marbee,  
I don&#039;t think that&#039;s the case and the facts are on my side. The stats show that bars and restaurants are not impacted and in fact, business increases. There are places getting my business that I stopped going to due to the level of cigarette smoke. My thoughts are that if someone can not control their addiction long enough to eat a meal, get a nicotine patch. I am anti-government regulation but I know from personal experience that I can not count on someone’s kindness to allow me to breath. And I think my right to breathe trumps someone’s right to smoke any day. But then again, there are nicotine addicts that will disagree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marbee,<br />
I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s the case and the facts are on my side. The stats show that bars and restaurants are not impacted and in fact, business increases. There are places getting my business that I stopped going to due to the level of cigarette smoke. My thoughts are that if someone can not control their addiction long enough to eat a meal, get a nicotine patch. I am anti-government regulation but I know from personal experience that I can not count on someone’s kindness to allow me to breath. And I think my right to breathe trumps someone’s right to smoke any day. But then again, there are nicotine addicts that will disagree.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 02:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brad,
There are some things folks &lt;strong&gt;can&lt;/strong&gt; do.  For one, try to pay things off so capital can be directed to benifit you, not creditors.   There is no way we are not going to have to deal with some pretty harsh inflation coming soon.  Thanks for your comments.
Greg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad,<br />
There are some things folks <strong>can</strong> do.  For one, try to pay things off so capital can be directed to benifit you, not creditors.   There is no way we are not going to have to deal with some pretty harsh inflation coming soon.  Thanks for your comments.<br />
Greg</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Thrasher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad Thrasher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 01:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Respectfully disagree as to the degree of protection Greg.

We can partially, even mostly protect ourselves. Sadly, one should retain some presence and exposure to our corrupt and bankrupt system in order to do business. It does provide certain worthwhile conveniences and efficiencies.

For example, maintain your free checking and minimal savings account requirement at your friendly bailed out bank. Move everything else into a sound local, regional bank or credit union.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Respectfully disagree as to the degree of protection Greg.</p>
<p>We can partially, even mostly protect ourselves. Sadly, one should retain some presence and exposure to our corrupt and bankrupt system in order to do business. It does provide certain worthwhile conveniences and efficiencies.</p>
<p>For example, maintain your free checking and minimal savings account requirement at your friendly bailed out bank. Move everything else into a sound local, regional bank or credit union.</p>
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