BLM Selling Out America-Fabian Calvo
By Greg Hunter’s USAWatchdog.com (Early Sunday Release)
Real estate expert Fabian Calvo thinks the recent standoff between the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) and Nevada cattle rancher Cliven Bundy is about much more than grazing rights. Even though this standoff is over, we find out It’s really about sweetheart deals for federal land. Calvo says, “The hair on the back of my neck stood up when I was doing research for this and speaking to some of my contacts on Wall Street. The BLM is part of the Department of the Interior, and look at what they have been doing? Through the BLM, the Department of the Interior has been confiscating land and going after land, for example, in the high desert in California and all over the place. What I am hearing is they are categorizing this land for future collateralization or to sell off. In the Weimar (Germany) hyperinflation, after the hyperinflation, what did they back their currency with? They backed it with mortgages and they backed it with land. This is a total possibility here in America, but here’s the part that is more sinister and crazy. The Department of the Interior and BLM have been providing sweetheart deals for Chinese investors. I have a laundry list of deals that have been approved just in the last year. Whether it’s Smithfield, a giant hog producer in America, and all of the farm land, overnight, the Chinese became the number one employer in a ton of cities across the U.S., but it doesn’t stop there. Chinese investors are getting approval for solar fields. There are battery companies they have taken over, and the list goes on and on. The USDA gave the Chinese approval to import their chickens. Why is this happening? It is an end of the road situation. It is just like where America was with England when we were exercising leverage over them around WWII because we were the largest creditor nation. Now, we are the largest debtor nation, and we owe all this money to the Chinese. In order to not have them dump our debt, we’re basically allowing them, through the Department of the Interior who is stealing rancher land and killing their cattle, they are selling out America.”
As far as the crisis between the federal government and the Bundy ranch in Nevada that is now over, Calvo says, “I think this Bundy ranch situation could be the Lexington and Concord of the Second American Revolution. I know that sounds like hyperbole, but look, people are waking up to this insanity. When this information comes out . . . we need a peaceful show of we are not going to take it. We really need a Rambo in the financial sector to take these people on to expose their crimes and what’s going on.” Calvo goes on to say, “People need to understand this is not some sort of theory about what is happening–it’s a fact. All you need to do is Google ‘U.S. Department of Interior and China approved,’ or something like that, and you will see all these stories come up and the deals that have been approved. . . . In order to keep the world reserve currency and keep that Ponzi scheme up, the U.S. basically has, as long as possible, they need to be able to collateralize stuff and do all these sweetheart deals so that the country that has us over a barrel, namely China, doesn’t dump our debt. Just last month, we had this BBC documentary where Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson says, in the 2008 crash, he was pleading with China, those are his words not mine, pleading with them to not dump U.S. mortgage-backed securities. In all of this QE, make no mistake, a lot of those mortgage-backed securities that the Fed was buying were a lot of the garbage they sold to China. They are now buying it back, and they are literally worthless garbage pieces of paper.”
As far as the continuing $55 billion a month the Fed is spending buying bonds, Calvo says, “Bottom line is I don’t believe anything they say. It’s much more than that because the economy is not getting any better.”
On the rash of banker deaths in the last few months, Calvo reports, “The people on Wall Street that I speak with think it is totally plausible that these people are being murdered to prevent an economic Edward Snowden from exposing the economic crime and fraud that is taking place. The system is scared to death. That’s why I am saying we need a financial Rambo to come out and expose what they are doing. . . . Hey look, if you have an economic Edward Snowden come out and expose the fraud of the derivatives, credit default swaps, manipulation of interest rates, it’s game over. You need trust in the financial market for it to operate, and when the trust blows up, it is game over. . . . You can see the cracks already taking place with the market plunge . . . . In my opinion, people are really getting shaky as far as trust in this financial market.”
As far as the big players in the real estate market, Calvo, whose company buys and sells $100 million in real estate annually, says, “They are not going to buy; they are going to start selling off. This is what I have been talking about since we have been doing interviews. It’s the pump and dump of the U.S. housing market. All the lenders are saying we want to start doing subprime loans. After 2014, you are going to see subprime loans roar back with style. . . . You are going to see real estate go absolutely buck wild, unless there is some sort of black swan event. Real investors are scared to death of the imploding U.S. dollar. . . . Not everybody is a gold investor, and real estate is a tangible hard asset that can be rented out. I think home prices could go up until we have another full blown collapse. I think the collapse of the housing market will be coupled with the stock market collapse, the bond market collapse and the dollar collapse. Everything will blow at once.”
Join Greg Hunter as he goes One-on-One with Fabian Calvo from TheNoteHouse.us.
After the interview:
Calvo told me he’s working on a new book about the coming global economic reset. He says it will be out at the end of April. You can keep track of Fabian Calvo on his personal website called Fabian4Liberty.com.
About 6 years ago it was rumored that China had bought many of our parks, such as Yellowstone. Also, we know about Manhatten and also Detroit. It is also known that China has an investment firm that is buying up ground and farms, etc.
But, nobody cares. If you mention any of this to a Doofus Democrat all you get is anti Reagan and Bush stuff. So, we are unrecoverable. We are toasted. Quit playing their game by getting dollars down thru debt reduction. Grow a garden until they rule it illegal. Buy locally and skip the other crap that is imported. If you care, then pay attention to what you are doing.
What am I doing? Well my house is paid for. I am going to cash in another mutual fund and buy real stuff and pay off more debt. I will have only one mutual fund left. These guys and gals are dragging us down to disaster and civil unrest. And we play along as if in some fantasy Twilight Zone. Be ready for the 2000 year warning of ‘a quart of wheat for a days work’….and, The Rider on a White Horse proclaiming peace, but peace-making in not on his mind….
Ugly, well don’t worry the next party paid for election will solve all the problems, LOL. We are toast, the basic American is as stupid as the elite know they are, they will stand for anything the MSM (American Pravda) tells them on the evening news. The financial press is touting buy signals behind every job they sent offshore. The middle class is what was placed in the toaster. I always enjoy your comments, until they shut us up that is.
ugly
uh huh, nailed it, as the jackass, says, “tru-datt”
If, and that’s a big if, our problems get solved it will definitely not be by man. What’s going on in our nation and the world is way over man’s head. The things taking place today has been going on for a long time.
We have nothing to fear; God is in control. We must believe that, and trust that, if we expect to have any hope of survival in the coming days.
Not to be rude, but that is hogwash. I have faith in God, but I trust in Colt, Smith & Wesson, and Remington. God helps those that help themselves.
Amen 188.
Greg
Ugly. If you were China, would you lend money to the US gub without collateral of some sort? I didn’t think so. OUR gub, OUR corps, OUR banks have been using OUR land, OUR water, OUR gold, OUR jobs, OUR food…as collateral for their spending for decades.
If anyone needs a link…or 2 for proof…well, I just don’t know what to say.
lastman.
We should have known since the 1990s that we were being sold. We are about to see what $5T can buy. It is just too bad that it is not us buying it. Think about it, there are over $4T in investments from the average USA person in mutual funds, IRAs, Life Insurance, Bank CDs, and others. How come we were not givin the option to cash out and buy some good stuff such as farm ground? Instead those options are going to T-Bill holders while we are allowed to crash someday. Thus, we lose everything and someone else buys $Ts in goods….
IMO, that 4 or 5 T$ that you are talking about is the last of the “real paper money” that honest people earned and saved for the future. The gub offered tax-free incentives for people to put money away for a rainy day… a ‘gub rainy day’ was what they meant. They have had every intention of stealing this money once the boomer funds reached critical mass.
We are close. Like Fabian said, “they will blow all the bubbles at once.” I believe that they want “savers-planners-survivors” out of dry powder.
Ain’t happening brother…ain’t happening.
Ugly.
I don’t know what the problem is? Like Will Rogers said ” We have the best politicians that money can buy”. The Chinese have proven that over….over….over again.
Common advice on this site is to own real estate. Traditionally, this is very sound, and it is infinitely better to have clear title to real property than to have that property mortgaged in any way. Please be assured that I agree with and admire this position. But, and I plead with all who read this, why do we believe that the bail-in will be restricted to cash only? What guarantee do we have that title to property will be recognized and/or preserved? There will be more value in real property/assets than in cash/electronic-entry accounts. The record of property rights recently in this country is poor (to put it politely). I urge all to consider this possibility. I fear that property will be in a tenuous position, as I believe the government will sell everyone and everything out without blinking an eye. Please do not get complacent just because we “own” our property. The bail-in will know no limits. Best always to all Watchdog participants.
Paul,
I often try to push the envelope of thought, and am sometimes a bit dark: but to underestimate the opponent is the Number One mistake. Having said that – I think you are well reasoned in your comment. Anything with debt to it will be swept into the coffers. And if Martial Law comes into play – it could well be that those of ‘the other side of the isle’ might have property seized under false pretenses. In Mexico, the rich and powerful have legal papers and titles made-up and passed before a judge; so without any knowledge – people are evicted from their lawful homes; and victims have neither the money nor connections to fight. It sounds fantastic – but what I see today I would not have believed could come to pass twenty years ago.
Charles, I think you are right about most items held as collateral being taken, although I believe that is the goal of the variable rate loans. I believe those with a fixed rate will still be honored as the contract can’t be modified. Those with a variable rate will see rates rise to usserviceable levels and ultimately lose their holdings as they won’t be allowed to refinance if they can’t pay off. This was the reason the banks pushed the variable rate loans so heavily since the new millennium.
Paul, I just wanted to compliment you on what no one else has said or brought up ever. They can take anything, anytime, anywhere. And you are right, look at all the value in that real estate, its not like you can make anymore of it.
So well put, I commend you on this observation!
True here in Texas we have property taxes that actually prevent someone from “owning” any property because if you cannot pay the property taxes on your land… then you loose it … so basically anyone here in Texas is just leasing land from the government at a really fluid amount
Paul
the IMF did a white paper last year that called for a one time 10% tax on a person’s NET WORTH. So the people that are responsible and dont live beyond their means will be crushed while the crack heads and welfare moms will pay nothing. They talk for the need to do it quickly so people dont have a chance to reposition.
I buy into your position that the govt will screw the people over without thought. I hear the talking heads on TV saying that while the govt was heavy handed on the Clive Bundy matter we are a nation of laws and cant allow him to cheat the govt out of taxes. If thats true, why arent violate Rangel and Tim Geithner in jail? A nations of laws? Did anyone send that memo to his royal hindmost, Barack Hussein Obama ,and AG Eric Holder. They swore an oath to uphold he laws of the USA yet they dont enforce the ones they dont like. There are plenty of laws I dont like but I have to honor them all…OK so I do violate the speed limit for Omar time to time but LEO dont adhere to them either.
At the most basic level, the concept discussed at the link below, is what this is all about.
http://www.wimp.com/moralbehavior/
Seen Too Much
This is a good one.
http://www.wimp.com/nationaldebt/
No disrespect, but where is the proof. Who owns what? Public records? Land deeds? It is highly likely to be true, and I believe these creeps would sell out, but we do need something tangible as to the BLM selling (forced) public land out from under families.
Maybe the Department of Interior should sell all Indian Reservations to the Chinese….
After all, they have done such a great job helping our red brothers out of poverty. I wish we could cash my wiwife’s 401k out but she would have to leave the company. I manage the accounts daily as I realized about a decade ago that the markets were rigged and the wise old sage selling stocks mantra of “go long” was a big lie…just like there is no voter fraud, you can keep your doctor if you like him and there isnt even a smidgen of corruption at the IRS. The last one is my favorite. You dont plead the fifth unless you are guilty…think about that one Ugly for just a second. You dont plead the fifth unless you are guilty and when you have the President, who is supposed to be an intelligent man ( the Demoncrats hid his school records because there is something in them that is problematic. Like he lied to get a school grants) and a lawyer, says there is not a smidgen od evidence even though Lois Learner is pleading the fifth. That “not a smidgen” will be the second biggest lie told by the Obamachrist in 2014.
G5….
I trust nothing anymore, except God. The Kangaroo Courts will accelerate and confiscate. A purge is on the horizon. Today is the day you can laugh and hug your kids and be thankful. A new system is in the making that will take that all away. Praise God for everything!!!!
Amen
Yea, title to real property is just a piece of paper like a dollar fiat bill, it can be taken away with court orders from government appointed judges. I can see it now, a special Superior Financial Court entitled “Real Estate Provisional Entitlement Settlement Tribunal, it will handle the taking of legally held property from the landowner to the bail-in(s) grantees. The Tribunal will have the power to issue new deeds entitled a “Tribunal Deed”, giving authority to obtain rents from the subject property, issue evictions, & demand taxes from previously held owners, etc. Don’t think this kind of system can’t be set up under the some type of hybrid marital law. So, yea, I guess owning property outright is some type of security, at least for the moment. Sound far fetched does it, when the SHTF and the collapse comes to fruition all such far fetched outrageous such ideas may become all too real
Art….
Those days could very well be ahead. Our POTUS said something of income inequality and redistribution. I wonder what he meant by that?
It doesn’t sound farfetched to me. I think the govt will find an armed rebellion on their hands. Can you imagine what would happen when they foreclose on section 8 housing? That would be interesting to watch.
They won’t foreclose on Sec. 8. Sec. 8 is precisely the model they are shooting for. Complete reliance on the government means you’ll never buck the government no matter the abuse.
Amazing that your guest admits that there has been a takeover by the Bankster/Big Oil cartel yet did not even mention the banksters Trilateral Commission and their Agenda 21. The Bundy ranch episode is the actualization of the Bankster/Big Oil Agenda 21 plan and world government.
Why not invite Patrick Wood or Rosa Corri on to enlighten you on phase 2 of the debter nation.
I should have posted a link for those who are not aware of the UN Agenda 21 that is above state and national law. Agenda 21 is real and the technocrats are brainwashing our children in school to be zombie followers.
The following video link is the best 101 presentation in understanding what is happening on a local, state, national and world level.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GykzQWlXJs
I cant understand why we pay the biggest share of the UN. I dont understand why we bankroll these people to come steal from us and plot against us. Get the US out of the UN!
I can confirm that the selling price of coastal southern California residential real estate is back to where it was right at the top of last peak in 2006-2008.
Snorky,
Then I guess it is “look out below” time!! Thank you for the real world reporting.
Greg
Just like the stock market…some things just never change.
This is depressing to contemplate. It is as if we learned nothing and all that pain was for naught. Like the old Ray Charles song said, here we go again. Best always. PM
Dudes. I have posted several times what could happen to us if foreigners cash in their T-bills and purchase American goods. $5T can buy 833 million acres if average is $6000 an acre. To illustrate, Idaho has 4 million acres of farmed ground and Nebraska has around 8 million. That adds to 12 million acres with 48 states to go and still $4.2T in monies for more purchases.
What I have been saying is that $5T can buy almost all our farm ground, all Ag produce produced in all 50 states, and monies left over for silver, gold, and coal, and oil.
Think about the $1T farm bill. That is 200B per year for 5 years. That is basically $2B per state. In Idaho $2B could buy every potato and wheat produced. So where is this money really going?
Sorry, it is not $2b per state, but $4b. Look up agricultural gate receipts per state. The $4b almost buys everything. Whazzup?
Its another handout to large corporations. And then you have black farmers getting money according to 60 minutes except they dont have any farm land, its on the honor system and we know how well that works.
SMall farmers need help from time to time. Here in coastal NC, the last two years have not generated any corn. Too little rain two years ago and too much last year. Some guys made cotton because its planted later and it withstands the rain better. There were thousands of acres in the county alone that were plowed under
Greg, raising real estate prices you say, just buy a home with the latest $10.00 and hour job created, see how long you keep it, sound like 2008 all over again. The elite will get another gold mind though while the middle class gets the shaft. At some point one would think they couldn’t do the same tricks time and time again, but sadly it looks as though they can; poor poor American stupidly; hurry, Walmart might be running out of plastic trinkets from China at basement prices. Buy local, buy American, buy only what you need and must have, wean off of “trinket America”.
Greg this interview with Fabian Calvo was greatly needed.
People need to understand that the Banking Cabal that runs this country controls :
– The Stock market
– The Metals market
– The Dollar index
– The Federal Reserve
– The Main Stream Media
They pump taxpayer money through QE into the markets to fund their schemes and when they reach a point they can’t extract a profit anymore, they dump. and when the price falls low enough they buy again at the bottom and start the process over. Rinse and repeat. All in all its a great scheme. They never really lose since they have the taxpayers on the hook to pay for everything. The only ones getting hosed are us and our grandchildren!
So where do the Chinese fit into this scam? Fabian is dead on. Think of them as foreign investors. They knew we didn’t have any real assets (such as Gold) when they loaned us the 3.5Trillion dollars under tarp, so they put a Deed of Trust on our land. And now they’re coming to collect on their investment. Dingy Harry saw an opportunity with the Chinese in Nevada and said , “hey if I hook you up, deal me in boys”. The guys as crooked as dogs hind leg. Even a dumb hillbilly like me can see that.
Greg, the collapse, reset, whatever you want to call it, is not only going to happen, its needed. This Ponzi scheme being run by the Banking Cartel has to come to an end. It isn’t working anymore. Why do you think the Chinese and Russians dealt themselves out ? They know it. The only problem is the American people don’t. Victims are always the last ones to know anything.
The Chinese and the Russians have caught
Thanks Jerry.
Greg
Jerry,
It started in the Clinton administration when they not only sold out our high tech ICBM rocket guidance secrets to China for campaign dough but took out all the gambling restraints on the banking system, Glass Steagel ect..So the banksters were let lose on the Wall Street casino roller coaster to lose all our deposits to the traders and then the biggest trader of them all Hank Paulson creates tarp to recoup the banksters lose’s and were left with the debt holding the bag and future generations to pay it back, on time! Paulson should have gave the money he made off us, the bank depositors and forced his fellow traders to do the same, instead they sold out our country and there all sitting on a big pile of dough that the American people deposited in the banks they let lose on Wall St.! Whose going to pay for this mess, i’ll give you one guess, Hank Paulson’s gran kids, if the Chi-Coms don’t own us first. Thank you DINGY HARRY and Billy Boy and Jim Kramer, who’s going to be the richest in the graveyard? If there’s A GOD IN HEAVEN, WATCH OUT BELOWWWWW……….HERE COMES HELICOPTER BEN!
Greg,
Greater depths for the Rabbit-hole of Red-Pill territory…
Fabian Calvo is one of the un-sung heros we have today. Smart, concerned, and forthright – who gives us some really key pieces of the puzzle. Corporate and political criminals – taking lands and making Sweetheart Deals. The only declaration missing is that gold is on that table too. Have the Powers-That-Be determined our course is done and are selling America cheap for a seat at the New World table? Do they think Greed will corrupt those next to be exploited, as it has all before? Or will political ideology be co-opted in some different way? I refuse to believe that our “Leaders” cannot be so stupid as to not realize what they are doing.
Thank you Charles H for your comment. Fabian broke a big one this time!!!
Greg
Greg,
It just seems that instead of circling the wagons, and saving the country – they are selling the wagons! And this behind everyone’s back. Dr. PCR adds depth to the covert corruption on KWN broadcast.
Greg – that interview needed about another 10 or 15 minutes… Would like to have heard Mr. Calvo drill down a little deeper on the real estate market and BLM/Harry Reid shenanigans. Oh well – next time perhaps.
Regarding the ‘black-swan’ event – well, as you nave no doubt seen, that is in progress as we speak in Eastern Ukraine. Yet more history ‘live’ in the making.
Agent P,
The Ukraine it a powder keg and everybody is smoking around it!
Greg
Smoking, drinking and shooting off Roman candles. ..what could go wrong?
In Boise, Idaho they were going to build a 50 square mile China Town that was a gated community. You needed a pass to get in if you were not one of them. Luckily with some outcry, this gated town for Chinese only was put on hold. We will have to see if Butch Otter survives this at election time. Now 50 square miles could house about 250,000 Chinese citizens, plus a few thousand illegals to do their laundry….no offense to the great Chinese people, nor the Spanish from south. It is just the State of Our Union….
We have become outcasts in our own lands
Galaxy 500, yea, outcasts which, of course, are always not wanted & always done away with without so much as a thought. To be outcast-ed is
to be driven from the cave to fend from oneself, not to have any tribe or family support; that just about sums it up it for me & others who built this country with the sweat of our brows. The brave outcast-ed men of America have no cave protection left, its been given to elite &, of course, our patriotic officials.
You are right. And they paid for the cave they are forced out of
Thanks for clearing up the Boise “Chinatown” thing…I knew it was in progress of sorts but had been unable to find anymore info.
No offense to these people, but they need to stay home and deal with their “owners” while we deal with what is going on here. They only complicate matters to the nth power.
And in the meantime, don’t buy any Smithfield products or their imported chickens. And don’t buy anything made in China for that matter.
No to imported chickens but my neighbor raises hogs for Smithfield so I will continue to buy there stuff. Its local here
Agree, no China trinkets, food, or anymore of their lead which they put in everything for that matter.
Greg,
Thank you so much for helping to enlighten us as to our circumstance. We need some answers…..a plan….
May I suggest Dr. Stefan Molyneux. He has an ultra popular Youtube presence, in addition to being a host on FreedomRadio.com. I believe his doctorate is in philosophy and his minor was history. At any rate, he is an exceptionally clear thinker and may be able to help us devine a path forward.
Paying off your debts, planting a garden, buying local, all are excellent endeavors. I own 2 homes outright and recently paid over 6K in property taxes. However, I don’t really own these homes….the county does, as they set my taxation and usage parameters. All they have to do is increase my taxes to wipe me out. As it is I’m fearful of eating our GMO laced foods, or taking their cancer laden flu shots. I am hesitant to tell my personal physician anything that can be used to confiscate my weapons, or cause me greater harm. Anything you say of merit to your physician will be entered into the medical database and available to the government. There is nothing that the government can’t find out about you personally……. Is this the 1.0 version of what the future holds?
I thankful to hear someone actually say that these banksters are being killed…..it’s only logical after all.
As Jim Sinclair says…..GOTS GET OUT OF THE SYSTEM.
Cancer laden flu shots…dude, really? Not sure where you’re coming from with that. Last time I had the flu I was in the hospital for two weeks so I haven’t had the flu in the last thirty years. I have been getting flu shots. Dont take one…its cool, I’ll gladly take yours
Galaxy..
Sounds like you don’t mind having the following vaccine constituents in YOUR bloodstream?
Ethylene glycol (antifreeze)
Phenol, also known as carbolic acid (this is used as a disinfectant, dye)
Formaldehyde, a known cancer-causing agent
Aluminum, which is associated with Alzheimer’s disease and seizures and also cancer producing in laboratory mice (it is used as an additive to promote antibody response)
Thimerosal (a mercury disinfectant/preservative) can result in brain injury and autoimmune disease
Neomycin and Streptomycin (used as antibiotics) have caused allergic reaction in some people..
Dude
you need to update. Thimerosal has been out of vaccines for a decade. One thing it gave us was that it ain’t causing autism. Guess they’ll have to blame something else. Who is making what your taking? Mine doesn’t have those. You know that the human body has aluminum. Need to go to a real medical website instead of the one you’re going to. My advice is avoid the sites hawking medical quackery. Get some real info.
Actually Galaxy no–thimerosal is still in multi-dose vials of flu vaccines.
And his other points are well taken.
The flu vaccine prevents flu in only 1.5% of takers; but the adjuvants overload the immune system and make you twice as likely to catch strains outside of the immune profile of the given vaccine. They hardly ever get the strain right, BTW.
Meanwhile the adjuvants–including aluminum–dramatically increase the risk of Alzheimer’s.
All in all, not a risk I’m willing to take for almost zero benefit.
Dude,
I agree with your concern on the ACA (Obamacare is an abomination. ..or is it an Obamanation?) Digital data base that can be hacked, stolen and/or modified. Much harder to steal the paper records or to change them without easy to see evidence. Just because I think you’re wrong on the rest doesn’t mean some of what you’re saying doesn’t have merit.
I think EVERYONE SHOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS.
Harry Ried lives at the Ritz-Carlton in a condo in Washington, D.C. in the “West End.” There is a CVS in the building. He has a house in Searchlight, NV.
China owns $1.2 trillion in US debt and the day of reckoning is upon us. The corrupt criminal pieces of trash in DC calling themselves politicians are liquidating the USA. This is just the beginning and it’s not going to end well. The “American Spring” is in play. Our country has been long overdue for some much needed cleaning.
Hi Greg!
Here is part of an email I sent to Jim Sinclair last year on 4/15/13. For obvious reasons he did not post my email on his site but here is what he replied back to me:
Rob,
Your idea on currency is near perfect.
Jim
I have posted this last year on your web site as well:
First the US dollar falls from its global reserve currency status.
Then regional reserve currencies are put in place to compete equally with the Euro for 3 1/2 years.
This looks to be 7 regional currencies comprising of:
1) the Yuan in Asia
2) one of the dinars for the Middle East through North Africa
3) the Russian Ruble for most of the former Soviet Union
4)the Brazilian Real for South America
5)The US dollar for North America
6) the Aussie dollar for the south Pacific through southern Africa
7) and of course the Euro.
These seven currencies will then meld into one virtual electronic currency like bitcoin for the masses who for the last 3 1/2 years will not be able to buy or sell unless they are marked into the system through their biometrics(eye & or hand) as their password to accessing this NWO of trade through their phones.
It finally looks like the dollar is openly teetering as the emerging markets make their move and then the powers that be thrust us into the Daniel 9:27 covenant with many this fall to begin this 7 year period!
In CHRIST! Rob
I dont buy it sorry. When this fiat mess collapses, only a moronic nation will hold other fiat as a reserve currency.
Hi Galaxy!
There is distinct possibility those 7 currencies are going to be backed by gold, oil, or what ever natural resources each region possess. Think deep storage gold like not mined yet :o)
The last time I checked there was not one physical nation presently on planet earth that does not fit into the moronic category so I am sure when push comes to shove they will all jump on the bandwagon :o)
Here is the only nation I claim my citizenship and allegiance to and suggest you do too sir:
1 Peter 2:9 But ye are an elect race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for God’s own possession, that ye may show forth the excellencies of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light:
Philippians 3:20 For our citizenship is in heaven; whence also we wait for a Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:
If the covenant I mentioned above is agreed upon by this fall the USA as mystery Babylon gets toasted first in 7 years anyway so I suggest we all plan accordingly:
Revelation 18:8 Therefore in one day shall her plagues come, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire; for strong is the Lord God who judged her.
In CHRIST! Rob
It would have to be backed by something someone could go to the bank and trade it for. That would be gold and silver. Based on the lack of law in China, Brazil, etc… I just dont see the required buy in. It won’t be like the field of dreams…they can build it all they want but fiat currency is a faith-based commodity. I think its going to hard to get reserve status for any fiat. People keep talking about the Yuan but based on the communist government being able to anything they want doesn’t lead to confidence. But that doesn’t mean they won’t try…but it also doesn’t mean it will work either.
UH, America is NOT mystery Babylon! Utterly ludicrous and unknowledgeable. Babylon is today…IRAQ! Refer to a older unadulterated Strong’s Concordance if you do not know original Hebrew manuscripts. Babylon in Biblical knowledge is Iraq of today. God doesn’t hate America; we’re a christian nation. He is coming to bring judgment on her enemies. God’s enemies are our enemies. You’re confused sadly.
Sigh…..Of course they are auctioning off the country. This is what happens in a bankruptcy. I have no doubt we will see the market crash and those MYRAs will look mighty safe as our 401Ks get sucked into the whirlpool of debt coverage.
Watching and waiting .
Out here in the Western states the BLM has been ridiculed for years as either the Bureau of Livestock and Mines, or the Bureau of Land Mismanagement and there are a few other variations on the theme. But this revelation of Fabian’s is on another level altogether. Jefferson was so prescient when he stated that one day we citizens could wake up as paupers on the continent that our forefathers had conquered.
If only the dollar could just collapse. What would that mean? No more relentless foreign military adventures for our highly esteemed (ahem!) military. A return to the rebuilding of an economy of trust and the rule of law. Buy gold and silver; that day is coming.
You won’t have any of that without a strong military. Just ask the Pols and Checs who lived thrusting WWII
When the dollar collapses and we loose reserve status, we will no longer be able to afford 700 military bases around the world. We won’t even qualify as an “emerging market”. Where will the IMF get the SDR’s to inflate the world’s economies? I know, they will print them……sorry, been there, done that. You can’t emerge from nothing. Third world status? What will the U.S. GDP be comprised of…..WAR?
Who said anything about military bases around the world? Although I would have kept Okinawa just to feel even for Pearl Harbor. If South Korea wants our troops there, they can pay for it. If Japanese want protection, they can cover the cost.
And we have veto at IMF, Harry Reid wants us to give up control of it to China and Russia. Why cant someone club him like a harp seal?
You also are forgetting the amount of food we export. We do provide food to the world. Of course, we’ll starve while its sold but there is hope
greg, ugly, g5, jerry;
http://www.silverdoctors.com/jim-willie-us-on-the-brink-of-hyperinflation-shortages-riots/
For the last 30 years we’ve been exporting price inflation. Now we’re going to import 200% price inflation. This is going to be a nightmare of price inflation and product shortages, you will have violence at the supermarkets, at the gas stations, and at the ATM machines- Martial law is a guarantee!
Jim Willie discusses the implications of Russia stopping trade via the dollar, and calls for HYPERINFLATION, SHORTAGES, & RIOTS to hit the US in his latest MUST LISTEN interview below:
Thanks Allen.
At this point the Jackass is stating the obvious. The collapse would have already happened, if it wasn’t for for the markets being manipulated by the Cartel and the populace being as dumb as a box of rocks.
Jerry
I think you just insulted the box of rocks. Even rocks are smarter than our low information voters
Alols.
It is coming. Inflation above 5% per month! followed by hyperinflation. When we start seeing inflation on a month by month basis, then we will know our time is coming. To track this I will buy the same items each month from the same store and same brands. I will report if things are inflating. Here is my shopping list to track each month.
Dozen eggs
Gallon milk
Pound butter
Can of Campbell’s Chicken Noodle soup
Can of Campbell’s Vegetable Beef Soup
Pound of hamburger
I will keep track of this month by month from same store and same brand names.
PS. If I were to buy my first 3 or 4 handheld Ham handheld Boafengs, what would you suggest?
Ugly,
I’ll do the same from rural NC (coast) to give some balance.
Greg,
I’m sorry that you had to be the one breaking this bad news, but I’m glad you did, so thank you. I know how much it must have pained you to hear it, because it just makes me ill. For more on the situation, check out Doug’s posts on http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/
cris martenson interviews Jim Rickards
segment…
So these things keep happening; but here is the problem, Chris: the Fed has printed almost four trillion dollars to put out the fire from 2008. What is going to happen if we have a liquidity crisis next month or next year? They are at the limit of their balance sheet. They are already insolvent on a mark-to-market basis. And again, that is not guesswork. I actually was told that by a member of the Federal Open Market Committee. They are leveraged 80-to-1. They cannot do more. They cannot print another four or eight trillion. They are at the limit of confidence. They are not at the legal limit, by the way. Legally they can do it but they are at the limit of what people will really trust, or before the Congress would intervene.
So the next crisis is going to be bigger than the Fed. It is like they build a five foot sea wall and here comes a forty foot tsunami. There is only one clean balance sheet left in the world and that is the IMF. So the only way you are only going to reliquify the world in the next liquidity crisis is by the IMF printing their world money, these Special Drawing Rights or SDRs, and that is going to be the end of the dollar as a global reserve currency. Because if the IMF is going to print SDRs to reliquify the world they are going to need permission from China and Russia and other members of the IMF. The US has a big voice at the IMF but we do not control it. And so that really is going to be the end of the dollar right there. We may still have dollars — in fact we will — but it will be a local currency like the Mexican peso or Turkish lira. It will just be walking around money. But it will not be used for the important things in the international monetary system. This you can actually see coming. You can see these developments coming.
Chris Martenson: It has always been my perception that the IMF is a little bit of a US-centric organization, if not a lot. You think China would really go along with that?
Jim Rickards: I think China would favor it because the alternative is perpetuation of dollar hegemony. It would almost be to say that, no matter what the United States does, no matter how much we print, what deficits we run, what trade deficits we run, no matter how reckless we are, we can always print our way out of it. And there is a limit to that. So China would actually like to see SDRs. There is a lot of talk about; China making their currency a global reserve currency, being one. That is not even close. They are very, very far away from that. They do not want that because they would have to open their capital account. They would lose control. But they would not mind seeing the SDR as a global reserve currency. They just do not want the dollar. But they are stuck with dollars for the time being but the next panic when the IMF has to use SDRs to reliquefy the world; I think China is going to have a big voice in that. You can say it is US-centric but the problem with the US is that the Treasury and the White House want a weak dollar.
I mean, what good does it do you when your own country wants to trash the currency? What happened to the strong dollar policy? It’s over now and we’re in the currency wars.
http://financialsurvivalnetwork.com/2014/04/jim-rickards-the-coming-crisis-is-bigger-than-the-fed-jim-rickards-the-coming-crisis-is-bigger-than-the-fed/?utm_source=rss&
Gregg another gem.
This guy is one smart cookie. Of all your guests he is the one that actually has “skin in the game”.
I take more notice of him than any other guest you have on because he is operating a business in the thick of it. He is not just writing a newsletter he is on the front line.
Well done.
Great interview- AS ALWAYS ! But tell me ,’t we had the “Black Swan” event already with the gentleman on 60 Minutes exposing the high-frequency trading scam on Wallstreet a few weeks ago??? Tell me if I”m wrong. Thanks.
60 minutes didnt go after them lime they should have
Sorry but Fabian really contradicts himself here. On one hand he says Blackstone and other real estate investors are looking to dump their houses onto the next group of subprime buyers, implying that housing bubble will burst. And yet, on the other hand foreign and “smart” investors are/will be looking for any hard asset to own because of collapsing dollar therefore supporting higher real estate prices. Which is it? Seems you can’t have it both ways. Why would Blackstone et al sell if prices are bid up? What do they buy with the cash if dollar collapses? Thanks for your reply.
Blackstone needs the cash flow while the foreign investors are trading in their dollars
Hello Greg the fuse on the US and EU financial debt bomb is getting shorter and shorter. Those that are awake know that the time is nigh. The desperation by the Rothschild banking cabal is palpable as countries have gotten wise to their central bankster economic hitmen.
China who holds a big wild card with the 1 plus trillion US debt and the trade surplus understands that they are being surrounded by the US/NATO missile shield and will eventually be targeted in a major way. A stronger alliance with Russia is only logical for their long term stability.
In the US you can see the selling out of America is well underway and has been since 1913 it has just gotten exponentially more desperate. First, we as Americans were used as collateral to secure the loans to pad the pockets of the corrupt 1%, now they are stealing from us and selling our tangible resources to keep their Ponzi scheme going.
It took the world over four decades to wake up to our larceny when we threw the Bretton Woods agreement out the window and defaulted on August 15th, 1971 when Nixon signed Executive Order 11615 and took us off the gold standard. Now the piper must be paid and we have no one to blame but ourselves as a nation for allowing these criminals free reign. Any way you slice it we deserve what’s coming to us and it aint going to be pretty!
I was reading the other day that the Chinese own large amounts of our energy production, some 30% of one of the larger shale fields in SW Texas and various oil and natural gas fields across the country. I had also read that this administration made an agreement to allow them to buy into American production, what we have left, with the dollars they had stocked up so that they would not just dump them as threatened, back in either 2010 or 2011, and this is taking place all over the country. Not just real estate, but energy production, car manufacturing, etc. Their holdings in America are huge.
What is your theory on what they will be announcing in their next gold report, due to come out this month – their five year gold holdings report? I’ve read that they will announce that their currency will be now backed with gold, and that they plan to offer it as the new world reserve currency. Since our currency is only backed by faith, which just about no one has in our currency anymore, I expect the few nations which still accept the dollar, will want to do as China is doing and get rid of it before it hits rock bottom. Russia is also not dealing in dollars anymore, and their currency is also gold-backed, and some are saying that the reserve currency might include the Russian currency and the Chinese currency, both of which will have solid backing in gold and not bad faith. What is your opinion on that, please?
gena.
It is simple. We are being sold. There will be a currency that takes over the dollar. We will be slaves to that debt because anything we own will probably be confiscated to pay the debtor. Tough and ugly times are ahead. Anybody with a breath of life for 5 years will see all this unfold….
So Greg, answer me this: If the dollar collapses, wouldnt it be best to hold mortgaged real estate and gold? Hard assests would be paid off in worthless dollars.
Jim C,
My bet is they (Bankers) will revalue your mortgage in the new currency.
Greg
Greg, this may be the only time I disagree with you. On debt revaluation. When it all collapses, it will be just gone. Look at what is going to collapse, theu currrency…that is everything. I follow what Orlov and Ruppert say. It will all be re-set. If the currency fails, that is like your blood turning into poison. Its over.
Look at what Madoff did, in the end it is jsut all gone, complete implosion, but on a worldwide scale. Internal conflict, regionalized wars, cities being destroyed. Orlov speaks of “micro communities” all over. The west cant control this. Russia and China have been shoring up their currency, this is the key to an economic survival.
The powers that be are delusional, it has nothing to do with intelligence, this is fueled by emotional drive to control and emotions rule over intelligence. After the craks start showing in a Ponzi scheme the people running the scheme start to panic and try to do anything they can to save it, all based on the fear of losing control.
And just like a ponzi schme, its always the people that have bought into it that start demanding some type of payment that it begins to collapse. The same process is happening now, but its a currency crisis
Before she changed her tune, Catherine Austin Fitts mentioned the deep corruption and multiple black bludgets and bidgets within budgets. This is all just the beginning of the coming currency crisis.
And when it happens I believe you will see a whole new United States, a commpletely different setup of communtites and cities etc.
But most importantly you will see a DEAD Federal govt, just disinigrated. Remeber when the USSR collapsed, all those guards at the West German borders just left their posts, becuase the USSR could not pay them!!! Thats it! They all needed to eat, take care if family etc.
The simplest solution is usally the right one.
So to all those deeply in debt, ” hey I am broke, I can’t pay you back but you can sue me and you can collect but I dont have anything to collect…good luck with that”. And then what can you do?
Nothing but let it collapse!
wddeni,
While no one can predict with precision what will come to pass – consider this… technology and organization exists in America where it has never been anywhere before… then there will be a replacement currency for the failed one… and debts will probably be marked up to the new currency… if you don’t pay? bingo! you lose… and just what to do with Homeland Security and all those bullets? – maybe FEMA will pay-out after all. Unwilling organ-donors for the new Healthcare system. You might make it to Congress yet! (A piece at a time.) Besides – the game has always been to interpret others as inferior, so as to gain advantage. And power is never peacefully dislodged. You think they’ll let States assert authority and break apart? I don’t think so.
Agreed
Charles, thanks for reply. I am talking about fundamental survival. How many controlled burns started into raging fires because “experts in charge” made mistakes.
You still have to pay people. They still have families and survival instincts, there have been so many times the planes of mice and men go under.
Even state/local/city govts will implode. It will just happen, the flow of energy!
Wdd
A while back we had a wonderful controlled burn at Croatan National Forest . It took them two weeks to regain control . Valid point.
Wddeni
Nice thought on an intellectual scale, but just remember there is no one alive that went through the last reset. One thing I tell with 100% clarity, there will be death on a massive scale when all the government programs break down. Even if the dollar decreases by only 10%-20% it will spell the end of the middleclass and the biggest potion of the governments tax base used to support those programs. Even if the government confiscated 100% of the top 1%’s income, it wouldn’t be enough to save them.
Jerry, this exactly what I am talking about. A complete unravel. When the ebt cards get rejected an 92 million people cant eat or get fixes. They will rage, society breaks down, a complete break down of the system.
Maybe not the best example but there were certain events in Vietnam war, when “we knew it was over” done. COuld not save it.
What happens when they “try” to send in troops to a city that is on fire, you think you will stick around, put yur life on the line so someone else can take you out. The bankers have lost control, just like a ponzi scheme with nothing coming in, now there is desperation mode. This model consatntly repeats itself over and over. They can only “buy” time. That is it.
No army, no force, no UN forces, no NWO, no technology can stop the momentum this has been building up for years. Ones and zeroes never lie. This is finished, all fundamental, not intellectual.
wd…spot on. The earth will be purging itself of those that are incapable.
It’s long overdue.
Wddeni
debt collections will continue. Lawyers are cockroaches and they survive a nuke. A financial disaster will be devastating to us but the lawyers will thrive. While I think there will be inflation I think it will take a while to get to the death rate. And there will be a lot of broken people and legal action until the courts collapse
But I kind of hope you are right
I dont know that you are correct. Weimar German had problems (understatement. ..a beer when from 5 marks to a billion marks from the start of WWI to the middle 1920’s about a decade) but the debt didnt disappear. Anyone with collateral lost it. If you had gold you were…well, golden. The French even seized part of Germany when they couldn’t pay. The French bankers who demanded unreasonable war reparations are the root cause for the rise of Hitler and WWII.
Well said, wddeni .
The psychopaths may be highly intelligent, unfathomably wealthy, and in power–currently.
But they are at this point as completely, insanely delusional as all “Elites” become toward the end of their quest for world domination…the Mayan human sacrifices, Roman emperors marrying their horse, rampant pedophilia in the British “royals”…
Trouble is, their death-throe thrashings are as dangerous as a dying dinosaur’s tail.
Us smart mammals will stay under rocks and bare our teeth until it’s over.
Let’s hope this time, we learn the most important lesson–all of history is predicated on the fight between us, the empaths, and them, the 2% who are genetically psychopaths.
Greg, with all due respect: I don’t think that is a possibility as a successful solution for the bankers. You cannot tell a nation full of well-armed mortgage holders that the currency debt they just blew up–and which their mortgage was denominated in–has now been magically transformed into some new currency that they owe.
Won’t fly, no how, no way. If they are either stupid or brazen enough to try that, they should eliminate the middle man and cut their own throat, literally. Take a look at what happens when the average American couch potato gets wind of proposals to eliminate or scale back mortgage interest credit for income tax. DOA in no time.
The idea the American people would actually attempt to pay off a mortgage in some new currency their mortgage wasn’t originated in will never, ever happen. Long before, either the parasites will have been killed off to the man or we will all be living in camps.
I think the first option is much, much more likely.
Texas,
I think you are correct sir but that doesn’t mean they won’t try it. After all, the government did buy billions of rounds of ammunition. Thank you for weighing in.
Greg
Texas
I dont see people that own 10% of their house and the banks owns 90% keeping the house. When inflation hits second gear, you will see credit card issuers will cut people off which will bring the situation to clarity. Even at 30% APR, the lenders couldn’t sustain lending with inflation heading toward 2% a month. This amount of uncertainty will kill the securitization of this debt which is how credit card companies finance their debt. This will blow out the economy.
I tend to agree Greg. Somehow I can’t see the bankers and “owners” of the real estate allow us to pay them off with inflated dollars. that just isn’t gonna happen. So your premise seems plausible. But, IF they revalue that…where does it stop. it doesn’t, so what would be the point.
I think predicting the collapse will be difficult
Predicting any complex system is difficult if not impossible
Greg,
Thank you for your efforts and website. Per your suggestion and interview of James Rickard. I bought and have read 2/3 of the way through reading “THE DEATH OF MONEY” by James Rickard. What an absolute fantastic must read for all that visit this website. Both supporters and disbelievers. The Title does not give it justice for all the history and current information that shed light the whole global system, just not here in the USA. I have been following your website for just over a year and have had a hard time connecting all the dots from your interviews and posters comments. This book has helped me connect all the dots and given an excellent educational basis for understanding what is happening.
I would suggest you start a suggested reading book list on your website and could have your registered posters rate these books(maybe by giving them a thumbs up, down or neutral). By the way I have always hated reading books, but this is a must read and a great educational reference for two thumbs up.
James Rickards…..be careful when evaluating what he says…..remember, he is a government insider/player. His opinions must be viewed with a very jaundiced eye.
Um, can’t we just nationalize all Chinese holdings when it’s convenient? After all the USA confiscates from citizens, the Chinese aren’t any different.
On the conspiracy front, this makes sense. If one wants gold back in the USA, you get it back by making them welcome here.
In reality, the same thing is going on in Australia. Folks on the ground, tell me that the Chinese citizenry that can, are diversifying their investments and stashing their stuff out of China out of caution so that if China crashes, they have assets outside the country.
Ps. Isn’t it logical that the Executive Branch is not in control of the N$@ Doesn’t it make sense that based on the length of time the system has survived that its axiomatic that this organization is aligned with the big financial interests? Doesn’t it follow that they spy and monitor at the TBTF’s requests so that the System can be preserved? We know as fact they spied on various diplomatic meetings and negotiations. Surely it follows that there is “inside information” flowing back and forth I some shape or form. just my tinhat theory.
Pss. You do realize that one Sorcha Faal spews the same discredited babble as Wilie’s sources. Look it up. It’s silly.
Greg,
Miss your site and posting on it but i never was away from it, great interview no doubt and to his credit i add this whopper from zero hedge:
the article is :
“Triple Whammy Shocker: Goldman Shutting Down Sigma X?”
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-08/triple-whammy-shocker-goldman-shutting-down-sigma-x
In this article it is clearly that Goldman is abandoning the high frequency trading which came “coincidentally” after the Snowden exposure of the NSA spying that has a lot do with getting an edge in collecting financial info to harvest it in high frequency trading in the market, that also was on the heal of the “suicided” bankers which may indicate that Goldman may found out that there are OTHER PLAYERS ON THE BLOCK benefiting from this high frequency trading other than them and what was thought by the elite faction in the US that it was a secured system turned out to be hacked.
May I suggest Russians?!
Here is Joseph P Farrell’s take on the issue:
http://gizadeathstar.com/2014/04/stunner-goldman-abandon-hft/
[quote]
“Perhaps – venturing way out to the end of the speculation twig here, and far beyond the ability of that twig to support the weight now put upon it – perhaps Goldman, in its investigations of that 2010 Flash Crash discovered something, some strange and curious fact or event hovering on the edge of the events of the day, that made it think that there may be not just one, but perhaps even two players on the block with the ability to enter supposedly secure systems, and alter the trading target algorithms remotely, and at will. If they did, for the moment, they’re not talking.”
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Mohammad,
Welcome back!!! We missed you my friend!!
Greg
Mohammad,
Thanks for coming back. The site is just not the same without you.
Mohammad
Welcome back to the “Red Pill” family my friend.
Love your links. I’m suspicious of anything Goldman Sachs turns out, as the Cartel has their hand up their crevice.
It is about time you came back. We need updates on Syria, Ukraine, China, and Russia….
Good to hear from you Mohammad. Responding to so many great commenters can be draining. Sometimes taking a break from it is necessary.
Hi Doc
nice to have you back
thanx guys i miss you all. Good to be back.
Mohammad,
One more voice added to the chorus: You have been missed.
It is good to have you back.
http://thecommonsenseshow.com/2014/04/13/the-bundy-affair-is-the-tip-of-the-iceberg-to-whats-coming/
Are our elected leaders that blind or do they know the score and are looking to be taken care of by those who govern after us? They may be acting like the parable of the “shrewd steward” in Luke 16.
2014 Nevada = BLM & Senator Reid.
2004(?) Arizona = eminent domain for the Cana-Mex highway & Senator John McCain.
Greg,
Time is running short and the Israelis seem to be uneasy with the dovish policy of our admin with iran to the degree of issuing a warning to Kerry by Israel minister:
http://news.yahoo.com/israel-minister-warns-kerry-over-surrender-iran-083420413.html
“Israel minister warns Kerry over ‘surrender’ to Iran”
Mohammad,
This is very big and very dire!!
Greg
Doc
the Israelites will not go quietly to the slaughter house again. They will do the needful thing as we end sanctions because we were winning and Obama is not a winner
“Our dovish policy”…Doc, is that what surrender before the battle is done…one that you were winning…is called?
The debts created by the Federal Reserve are debts created by the ruling power elite, not the American people. We need to stop letting them hide behind investment funds. Name the people who own the Federal Reserve. Just who controls our economy, loots it, creates debt for our grandchildren, and then gives our country to foreign interests? Let them repay the Chinese. Their public trials are long, long, overdue, as are the arrests of those who work for them.
Hi Greg. I believe your analysis is on target. Consider and research this: QE3 and 4 involves the Fed printing fiat money on behalf of “assisting the US economy,” and actually is using the money to buy up real assets through stock market purchase and resales! They purchase, which bumps up the value of those stocks. Then they sell from that higher valuation, which then lowers the value – but only after they’ve made their profit. Then they repurchase at the new slightly lower rate, which again bumps up the value, and then they resell again. This is the cycle that the media won’t report on, even as the only metric they can point to that indicates a smidgeon of economic recovery is the increases in stock market values.
Judge Andrew Napolitano appeared on Fox News to denounce the federal government’s operation against Nevada cattle rancher Cliven Bundy, asserting that BLM agents should have been arrested for seizing his property and that the case represents a “line in the sand” for Americans who have had enough of big government tyranny.
Napolitano said the feds were forced to back down because they had suffered a public relations nightmare, pointing out that Bundy lost his case in a federal court but that the case should have been tried in a state court.
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Earl, please be quiet about that, you will spoil the fun.
Greg
Let me tell you what this Bundy vs. BLM teaches me. Unarmed people have NO rights but a group of armed citizens can enforce their rights. A person that isn’t willing to fight for their rights soon has no rights. These brave armed BLM agents were brutalizing woman and children but when good men with rifles said enough, those brave (sarcasm folks…these f’ing cowards sounded like the Nazis. ..I was only following orders) BLM agents decided that stealing a NV’s family’s property wasn’t quite so easy. I used to be on the side of state and federal game and wildlife and BLM but now under control of communists, they seek to steal people’s property by force and/or by a broken legal system.
on another subject , not intended to have anything to do with above subject… i am just to lazy to start another post…My advice , if you own firearms, practice head shots and get a good high powered rifle that will punch thru body armor. At least a 308 (M1A1s with national match bbl) or if you can stand the recoil and the price, a 338 Laupa ($10/shot much cheaper if you handled and dont waste your money if you ain’t going to practice) will keep their head down at a thousand yards. At 500-600 yards it will pass through the ceramic impact plate like a horse knife through butter. Thats because IMHO the bad guys are going to have body armor. Just something you should consider.
At some point, when the people understand how badly the politicians have robbed the govt blind and stolen our liberty, I think we will have a second American Revolution more akin with the French Revolution than the first American one. Not preaching inserection, just expecting it. I’ll have to sit it out, too old to do anything but watch and record it. There are still enough good men for this outcome. Yes, there will be some in the military that will blindly follow their orders while others will honor the oath they swore to protect the country against all threats, foreign and domestic. When its over, those who were following orders will be tried and executed as criminals. That includes the police in their armoured cars and tanks. Wearing a badge doesn’t permit you to subjugate and rob the citizens.
http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/estate-of-e-wayne-hage-v-united-states/&sa=U&ei=x-ZLU4CaJcmV0QG58oHIBw&ved=0CA8QFjAB&sig2=XuCLNpc1S6EOe4BgxMVmbQ&usg=AFQjCNH3lKqBMua_A2qPkON_92-OLkQzoA
http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.rangemagazine.com/specialreports/range-su13-hage-decision.pdf&sa=U&ei=x-ZLU4CaJcmV0QG58oHIBw&ved=0CBIQFjAC&sig2=cKtwgW8TsvYZ5sdJygHlpQ&usg=AFQjCNF73VMG3YiYcZjkv53Ds1flT2QTFA
Notice that the sheriff finally found his spine and ordered the BLM to leave. And if the govt called out the national guard, BLM had to be concerned who their guns would be pointed at.
jerry, g5;
From CBS News:
LAS VEGAS (CBS Las Vegas/AP) — Militia groups are rallying behind a rancher whose cattle are being seized by the federal government.
The Las Vegas Review-Journal reports that two militia members from Montana and one from Utah have arrived at Cliven Bundy’s ranch.
“We need to be the barrier between the oppressed and the tyrants,” Ryan Payne of the West Mountain Rangers told the Review-Journal. “Expect to see a band of soldiers.”
Payne said that militias from New Hampshire, Texas and Florida are likely to join and stand with Bundy and stay at his ranch.
“They all tell me they are in the process of mobilizing as we speak,” Payne told the Review-Journal, adding that hundreds of militia members are expected.
Lawmakers are adding their voices into the fray, criticizing the federal cattle roundup fought by Cliven Bundy who claims longstanding grazing rights on remote public rangeland about 80 miles northeast of Las Vegas.
Sen. Dean Heller of Nevada said he told new U.S. Bureau of Land Management chief Neil Kornze in Washington, D.C., that law-abiding Nevadans shouldn’t be penalized by an “overreaching” agency.
Republican Gov. Brian Sandoval pointed earlier to what he called “an atmosphere of intimidation,” resulting from the roundup and said he believed constitutional rights were being trampled.
The fact that a U.S. Senator and the Governor are publicly coming out against the feds is in my opinion a very big deal and may signal the beginning of a true fracturing in the social fabric. Something that I have been expecting for many years.
Heller said he heard from local officials, residents and the Nevada Cattlemen’s Association and remained “extremely concerned about the size of this closure and disruptions with access to roads, water and electrical infrastructure.”
The federal government has shut down a scenic but windswept area about half the size of the state of Delaware to round up about 900 cattle it says are trespassing.
Sandoval said he was most offended that armed federal officials have tried to corral people protesting the roundup into a fenced-in “First Amendment area” south of the resort city of Mesquite.
The site “tramples upon Nevadans’ fundamental rights under the U.S. Constitution” and should be dismantled, Sandoval said.
People being rounded up like cattle in these bullshit “First Amendment areas” is completely unacceptable.
BLM spokeswoman Kirsten Cannon and Park Service spokeswoman Christie Vanover have told reporters during daily conference calls that free-speech areas were established so agents could ensure the safety of contractors, protesters, the rancher and his supporters.
Meanwhile, federal officials say 277 cows have been collected. Cannon said state veterinarian and brand identification officials will determine what becomes of the impounded cattle.
The kindling for social upheaval has been growing in America for quite some time. Disrespectful and ignorant statements from billionaire oligarchs like Sam Zell only make it worse. The question in my mind has always been what will the catalyst be to spark the brushfire? Will it be the Bundy Ranch? We’ll have to wait and see.
Personally, I hope cooler heads prevail and there is no violence, because once you head down the road of violent confrontation between the people and the feds you are opening up a can of worms that will not easily be bottled up again. In such a situation, everybody loses. However, my long-term fear is that unless the government and its puppet masters on Wall Street and elsewhere in big business change course, social upheaval will prove inevitable, whether the Bundy Ranch sparks it, or some other incident down the road. These are troubled times and they are likely going to get worse before they get better.
http://libertyblitzkrieg.com/2014/04/11/why-the-standoff-at-the-bundy-ranch-is-a-very-big-deal/
Galaxy.
The Chinese want the U.S. disarmed . According to my sources, they are not excited about coming into an armed camp to claim their property. Under martial law they will bring in NATO forces to disarm the citizens, because they know our troops will not fire on American civilians. As for me, I would rather die a free man than live in tyranny.
Who in NATO is going to have money and the nerve to come here? The Irish gave the Brits religion and we have a whole lot more guns here. Does anyone remember Dillinger? You’d better. He robbed police stations to get better weapons. Think National Guard and get the good stuff. I hope they send the Norwegians. I still owe one a good a$$ kicking.
g5;
http://www.thedailysheeple.com/barack-obama-and-the-blm-land-grab-the-evil-agenda-of-communist-takeover_042014
And there’s an even bigger story of scandal and corruption still beneath this show of force by the BLM, orchestrated by Harry Reid.
On Jan. 20, 2013, WND warned Chinese government-backed economists were proposing a plan to allow Chinese corporations to set up “development zones” in the United States as part of a plan proposed by the Chinese government to convert into equity the more than $1 trillion in U.S. Treasury debt owned by the Chinese government.
The next day, Jan. 21, 2013, WND documented the Obama administration had begun to allow China to acquire major ownership interests in oil and natural gas resources across the USA.
The first major intrusion of China in the U.S. oil and natural gas market can be traced to the Obama administration decision in October 2009 to allow state-owned Chinese energy giant China Offshore Oil Corporation, or CNOOC, to purchase a multi-million-dollar stake in 600,000 acres of South Texas oil and gas fields.
By allowing China to have equity interests in U.S. oil and natural gas production, the Obama administration reversed a policy of the Bush administration that in 2005 blocked China on grounds of national security concerns from an $18.4-billion deal in which China planned to purchase California-based Unocal Corp.
Does anyone see a problem here? Barack Obama has a track record of selling America out, but this is ridiculous. Where are the checks and balances to stop Obama from selling America to the Chinese?
What about the Bush policy that Obama reversed? Is blocking the Chinese from gaining control over America’s energy consumption really about national security?
The answer to that question would seem to be obvious, but for a moment let’s pretend it is not. What could possibly happen?
Pure evil is what can happen.
– See more at: http://www.thedailysheeple.com/barack-obama-and-the-blm-land-grab-the-evil-agenda-of-communist-takeover_042014#sthash.b86rKiWw.dpuf
Nice one Al
G5
NEXT, THEY WILL COME FOR YOUR GOLD 🙂
Bunkerville, NEVADA, April 14, 2014– As reported yesterday, hundreds of federal agents are still at the Bundy Ranch and the area continues its status as a no-fly zone. Despite major media reports that the Nevada Bureau of Land Management is retreating, the remaining activity that still surrounds the ranch illustrates a different scenario.
Not only is the BLM not actually backing off of Cliven Bundy, Sheriff Richard Mack of the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association has revealed stunning information: on Ben Swann’s radio program, Mack said that he has received intelligence from multiple, credible sources inside the BLM and the Las Vegas Metro that there is “no question” that the federal government is planning a raid on the Bundy home and the homes of their children who live on the property.
According to Mack, the so-called retreat was nothing more than theatrics. “It was a ploy to get people to back off, to get people out of the way. They weren’t expecting us to get this amount of people here. They were surprised by the numbers and so they wanted a way to get us out of here. This was a ploy to get us out of here and then they’re going after the Bundys.” Mack said that when he was at the Bundy ranch on Saturday there were an estimated 600 to 800 protesters present when federal agents were releasing the cattle.
Read more: http://benswann.com/exclusive-sources-inside-the-blm-and-las-vegas-metro-say-feds-are-planning-a-raid-on-bundy-home/#ixzz2ywjYQtx5
Follow us: @BenSwann_ on Twitter
Jerry;
http://toprightnews.com/?p=2490
‘IT’S NOT OVER’: Harry Reid’s Ominous New Threat to Nevada Rancher
by Top Right News on April 15, 2014 in Bundy, Liberty, Uncategorized
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by Gina Cassini | Top Right News
The man at the heart of the Bundy Ranch Uprising and the extreme reaction of the Federal government is the man at the epicenter of power in Nevada — Senate Majority leader Harry Reid.
We detailed how Reid’s former Chief aide now heads the Bureau of Land Management (BLM), and that Reid and his son Rory were deeply involved in a $5 billion dollar solar plant deal with the Chinese on the very land the Feds are trying to yank out of the Bundy’s hands.
Yet despite the dramatic standoff in which citizens from around the nation forced the BLM to stand down, Reid had been eerily silent about the event that so personally impacted him.
Until now, that is. Reid this afternoon broke his silence, with a very brief but very ominous threat against the Bundy family.
WATCH:
REID: “Well, it’s not over. We can’t have an American people that violate the law and then just walk away from it. So it’s not over.”
Walk away? That is an odd and disturbing phrase indeed. And what do Reid and his goons have planned next? It seems we may well find out within days. Stay tuned.
Of course if you are an illegal alien who breaks the law, not only do Reid and Obama want you to walk away, but get welfare, work permits, ObamaCare and amnesty.
But not American citizens. If they step out of line they get the jack boot.a
Allen.
The government will just wait them out and then seize control . The militia cannot stay there forever. Even if the Bundys got an injunction the government would just get a Federal judge to overturn it. Lines are being drawn right now before our very eyes. When the collapse comes it will define which camp people will be in. In my area local law enforcement and military vets say they are with the American people.
Galaxy.
I’m thinking Chinese and Russians. Not Norwegians.
You said NATO. Last time I looked China and Russia weren’t members. The Russians have already been training here.
Do you really think the NWO follows any rule of law? We don’t know what deals have been cut behind closed doors with the Chinese.
No I dont just like I know the current crop isnt following the rule of law either
Maybe you meant UN peacekeepers
Whistleblower allegedly admits that Bundy Ranch was a test run for future standoffs
By John Vibes
BUNKERVILLE, Nevada (INTELLIHUB) —Investigator Doug Hagmann, of The Hagmann and Hagmann Report, wrote in a public email, to radio host and researcher Steve Quayle, that he has been speaking to a source inside the Department of Homeland Security about the recent surrender of federal agents in the Bundy Ranch standoff.
According to the email, Hagmann’s source claims that the Bundy Ranch standoff is far from over and that the surrender was a merely strategical ploy. The source also told Hagmann that the incident was used as a test run, to plan for future instances of resistance and to gather information about militia members.
Some interesting points were mentioned in the email which can be read in full below:
Date: Saturday, 12 April 2014
Time: 1840 ET
To: Steve Quayle
From Doug Hagmann
At 1750 hours ET, I was contacted by my source within the Department of Homeland Security regarding the current situation at the Bundy Ranch. To put it bluntly, the people are being hoodwinked into believing that the situation is being resolved. It is not. It is a strategic de-escalation to fool the public. This source stated that the retreat of the BLM agents and the release of the cattle was actually crafted as a potential plan yesterday (Friday, 11 April 2014) based on the following:
1. A military assessment of satellite and drone surveillance imagery of the “patriot resistance. Drones under the control of the U.S. military were in use, taking real-time photographic images of not just the activity at the ranch, but “identifying the protesters, any arms and any supplies they might have or be carrying. “Mission accomplished.”
2. Real-time communication intercepts between patriots on-site and their off-site support;
3. Active monitoring of internet traffic regarding the coverage of events at ranch;
4. The monitoring of real-time video from the scene.
This source stated that a response by the patriot movement was anticipated, although exceeded their expectations. Although this was a real operation, they also ran this as a test case for future government operations once they saw the response. They were also actively managing the media, in some cases threatening to cut off White House access to anyone covering the event.
A suggestion by one of the militias that some of the BLM are foreigners and may be Israelis of ME origin, it is very interesting video indeed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWwtB1L8LzA&list=UUEo9S5mMQ7z4n7ZiuUoBFRw
Doc
Are you really trying to say that the evil jews are behind the BLM gunmen?
The picture of the one man standing in front of the lonnnnng line of tanks leading into Tianaman Square taught me that.
@Galaxy–well said sir.
May I modestly suggest something? Agreed on 308 aka 7.62×51 NATO…very common round, easy to find, hits hard–much harder than 5.56.
But as a good friend of mine says, “Go big, or go home!” If you’re looking for a real step up from 308, skip 338 Lapua. Stick with militarily-available rounds–go for 50BMG. Same price or less per round. Three times the energy of 338. Even if their body armor prevents penetration the impact alone is deadly.
something just doesn’t add up…
“As far as the big players in the real estate market, Calvo, whose company buys and sells $100 million in real estate annually, says, “They are not going to buy; they are going to start selling off.”
“Real investors are scared to death of the imploding U.S. dollar. . . . Not everybody is a gold investor, and real estate is a tangible hard asset that can be rented out.”
So, Calvo whose company buys and sells $100 million in real estate annually is now selling real estate knowing the prices are about to explode to the upside then collapse in conjunction with a currency collapse that will leave anyone without any hard assets a poor man. So, why is Calvo saying his company is selling again?
PLEASE HEED MY
WORDS OF WARNING: I AM TELLING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THAT WHAT IS
HAPPENING TO CLIVEN BUNDY IS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT HAPPENED TO MY
COMMUNITY AND THIS IS COMING TO YOUR COMMUNITY IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
The powers that be wanted my community’s water, the globalists want
Bundy’s land to build a monolithic energy hub which is powered by solar
energy controlled by the Chinese and they want to put it on Bundy’s
property and I have the document that proves these claims.
Ventura looks into the prospects of “Blue Gold” and why corporations and the super-rich are buying up water rights around the world in what could be a plan in controlling nations and their masses. He looks into evidence that these tactics are going on in North America in what could be a literal theft of the Great Lakes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvaMvAQfUUk
Solar Energy Zones
I have discovered the existence of a BLM document
which introduces America to a new Agenda 21 land designation and it is
called a “Solar Energy Zone”. The smoking gun BLM document is entitled:
Regional Mitigation Strategy for the
Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone
Technical Note 444
Produced by:
Bureau of Land Management
March 2014
http://www.blm.gov/pgdata/etc/medialib/blm/wo/blm_library/tech_notes.Par.29872.File.dat/TN_444.pdf
(see attached PDF)
The BLM produced document carefully spells out all of the Agenda 21
precautions to protect the environment and indigenous wildlife in these
newly created Solar Energy Zones. The document specifically mentions the
tortoise and its need to be protected, which is at issue in the Bundy
case. Every form of species is protected within these Solar Energy Zones
except for humans and nothing is mentioned about how land will be
acquired through the eminent domain process.
The document makes it clear that land can be acquired to protect
local species which could be threatened. This is how the federal
government is getting around declaring eminent domain and paying people
fair market value for their land, prior to stealing it. This is exactly
what my community went through in the last decade in fighting against
the Canamex Highway.
Reid, Clark County Commissioners, the Chinese and Cronyism
“The Bureau of Land Management, whose director was Sen. Harry Reid’s (D-Nev.) former senior adviser,
has purged documents from its web site stating that the agency wants
Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy’s cattle off of the land his family has
worked for over 140 years in order to make way for solar panel power
stations”.http://thecommonsenseshow.com/2014/04/13/the-bundy-affair-is-the-tip-of-the-iceberg-to-whats-coming/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+DaveHodges-TheCommonSenseShow+%28Dave+Hodges-The+Common+Sense+Show%29
Funny the solar farms are bad for the desert tortoise
Well, it was either…
*Prosecute the bankers for the toxic mortgage/LIBOR scams that impoverished the world, making homeless, hungry, beggars out of all of us.
*Stop the Fed from fanning hyper-inflation (QE1, QE2, QE3, QE∞) that will result in food riots, mass starvation.
*Stop the looting, privatization of the world’s social safety net, public space, the commons, imposed “austerity” due to the toxic mortgage/LIBOR/Social Security rip-off scams.
*Punish the banking cartel’s multi-billion dollar drug-money laundering operations.
*Investigate why jobs and manufacturing are being out-sourced to China, how China came to own most US debt that financed the US war against…China, why China (the oligarchy) is buying up US assets at fire sale prices, even as the US is threatening war against China as it threatens the US economy (national security).
*Investigate why the US government won’t move heaven and earth to stop the radiation spewing from Fukushima, poisoning the US, the northern hemisphere, and investigate the connections between the Fukushima, Stuxnet, HAARP and nuke created earthquakes.
*Investigate who was really behind 9/11, the false-flag terrorist attack that touched off the serial, never-ending wars of pillage against the nation-states of the world, creating the pretext for the massive police state edifice now threatening the freedoms of everyone.
OR…
The US government (the oligarchy)…
*Ends food stamps to the poor even though there are no jobs, no social safety net, which will result in the starvation of thousands of Americans.
*Stands by while the unprosecuted banking and economic crisis destroys the ability of cities and towns to protect their own citizens, fund their police departments. Meanwhile, the Mexican drug cartels have invaded our country.
*Confiscates the guns.
*DHS buys billions of anti-personnel bullets, while giving away “tanks” to US cities and towns.
*Flys soon to be weaponized drones over everywhere.
*Allows Israel, a foreign country to run US NSA spying out of Mormon (Freemason/occult) Utah.
*Pre-positions military hardware in preparation for the coming US melt-down and chaos (COG).
*Makes being elderly, homeless, jobless, disabled veteran, and hungry a crime (useless eaters).
*Buys thousands of “FEMA coffins” in anticipation of US mass starvation, Fukushima FEMA camp relocations.
As a small confirmation of what’s going on, I used to sell a lot of my product to US government agencies (until I cut them off for cause) and still get a call from them occasionally. A BLM employee called a couple of weeks ago and in the current events/political conversation which followed, he showed himself to be completely aware of what is going on, specifically re:China. He stated that superiors had told him to just keep quiet and go along with it, and he would be rewarded in the future.
We need whistleblowers to break ranks with every US government agency to tell the American people the truth.
Whistleblowers……..like you said, we surely do need them, but I would imagine many who want to tell the truth may look at what is happening to the bankers being killed off and shy away. It takes an exceptional person with lots of planning….like Snowden.
I think the main entity we need to protect right now is the internet. Without it we would have no source of info or ability to respond. We need millions of short wave operators to back up the internet.
Wow! Greg, excellent interview. I am no financial expert but I have a good grasp of the Liberty Movement. Calvo’s statement, “The Bundy ranch situation could be the Lexington and Concord of the Second American Revolution” was right on. If the BLM had not surrendered to American citizens on Saturday, they know they would be facing Oath Keepers and Constitutional Sheriffs this morning. BLM was smart to escape before they were literally corralled. By the way, Brandon Smith at alt-market.com is very close to the Liberty Movement (and Bundy Ranch). He could make for an awesome interview from the Movement’s perspective.
It’s hard for me to visualize fighting the Banking Cartel (and saving the fiat dollar). It seems like that horse left the barn a long time ago. What do you think?
Thank you Diane!
Greg
I honestly doubt that the fraud going on could be exposed much more than it already is………..and I hear crickets chirping. Most folks just don’t care Greg, they cannot afford to care.
Case in point is a friend of mine who I came by to have a cigar with on the weekend. He just put his three little girls to bed, handed off his 1 year old nephew to his brother in law and then I listened to him and his neighbor talk for hours about what they spend all their time on–soccer and baseball try outs and coaching, birthday parties, car shopping, car and mortgage payments, grocery bills, working wives, baby sitters and taking care of little children after long hours of work……..its so surreal to listen to grown, educated, capable and intelligent people casually talk around a huge roaring elephant in the room and not even realize it. When I finally brought up the reality that a large reason they are always short on time and short on money is due to the fact that the monetary system of this nation is run by criminals and rife with unchecked fraud they just looked at me and had nothing to say–it was awkward, we poured some more scotch, lit another round of cigars and I eventually went home convinced that we are totally fucked.
Brian.
Welcome to the Red Pill club. As I stated before, the victims are always the last to know what’s happening to them. Its part of the illusion built by the Cartel that control the media. What do you think people would do if ABC said ” today the unemployment rate went down 24.2 % ” while gas prices went up 30%”? There would be mass panic. Its much easier to tell people everything is alright, because most of them “want” to believe it. I learned about victims from my mother. She had friends in Nazi Germany during WWII. Most Jews routinely believed that everything would work out, as long as they played along with their government and did what they were told. Reality didn’t sink in until they arrived at the death camps. Its human nature to believe that life is like the Wizard of Oz. You’ll wake up tomorrow and everything will be as it should be. But that my friend is not reality. What all of us have in store is a mathematical certainty, predicted by the greatest economist minds of our time.
Its like the cows marching up the ramp to be slaughtered
Dude, their eyes just glaze over…been there, done that. You tell them to have a rainy day fund outside the system and not be living beyond their means. It goes over like flatulence at a Southern Baptist church
to Tony Newbill:
During the twenty second century –
English was no longer needed; so only the Chinese language is taught.
The “Art of War” by Sun Tzu revised techniques used summary….
1. Gain control of the politicians, own or control the electronic voting machines
2. Obtain all business control, convolute existing legal system, destroy honest incentives
3. Gain title and control to land, roads, water, food production
4. Control the military from the top
5. Control the media and all information outlets, confuse and distract and entertain
6. Destroy confidence in the dollar, the old economy, Bankrupt the local, states and fed
7. Hire-control the citizenry, destroying civics and family and morals
8. Own and control- every gallon of clean water, b.t.u. of energy and fuel
9. Create a massive amount of Debt, Liability, Obligation
Since the Chinese calendar became universal world wide; I do not know the exact date American ended. I hope you will enjoy the history course that includes the fall-of-roman-empire french-revolution and bloodless-fall-of-lazy-United-States-of-American.
The time has come for America to wake up and Stand up and call out those responsible for the down fall of this great Nation.
The first step is to vote out the Democrats
And after we vote out the Democrats, we need to vote out the Republicans. Evil seeks power so that it can excuse itself from the restraints it forces on others.
I agree that after we flush the Demoncrats we should selectively flush the Republicans until we have a bunch of small govt, fiscal conservative, liberty loving, strict constitutionalist. Start by flushing John RINO McCain, Lindsay “lawless” Graham, and Peter “I want to be” King, Not a complete list.
Our biggest threat, the threat against freedom, sovereignty and the rule of law, is the 47% of the population that Mitt Romney said would never vote for a republican. He was vilified for stating a truth. Some people will sit on their behind if they can get a handout. And today’s handouts would make the so called poor wealthy in half hour he countries in the world.
We should stop foreign aid, as most of it is stolen by the same people plotting against us at the UN.
We can start a process that might save us BUT we have to stick to the plan.
The plan is :
Vote out the minions of Satan
people and govt should live within their means (balanced budget)
Secure the borders…make it a death penalty felon to violate and as a make work project, pay for snipers to shoot anyone who crosses the border and put land mines out. If the Mexican military crosses the border, light them up. They are working for drug dealers. Yes, this sounds harsh But these illegals are stealing our country and the future of our children.
Secure the Constitution. ..try these communists for treason.
Dont be silent. ..let everyone know that you disapprove of what they are doing in Washington. Why should 20% of the population pay 90% of taxes? Its easy for the ne’r do wells to vote for a party that gives them more and raises taxes on the public when you yourself dont pay taxes. Everyone should have skin in the game
Obama is now ‘Judge, Jury and Executioner’, thanks to Republicans! Look no further than their best and brightest.
We can thank good old GW Bush for his Axis of Evil (cleverly ignoring our two REAL ENEMIES China and Russia), and his phony ‘War on Terror’ to justify the Constitution-killing Patriot Act. Followed by good old boy ‘NDAA McCain’ who supported that final death blow to our Bill of Rights. These men are traitors just like Traitor-in-Training Romney. He boldly stated in South Carolina that he would sign the NDAA if he was President!
The globalists love for us to think that because a politician has an R or D after their name that we have a choice. They just make sure that we don’t have the choice of a true Constitutional President.
And your choice of electable party is? I detest McCain. If you read above I want to flush him. You’re blaming NDAA on the Republicans?
Greg, not sure if you’ve seen this but things are heating up in the Black Sea. Russian fighter jets buzz US Warships.
http://news.yahoo.com/u-condemns-russian-planes-passes-near-u-ship-161139347–sector.html;_ylt=AwrTWVUNC0xTTCYA9FPQtDMD
Oh and CIA Director, John Brennan paid a secret visit to Ukraine this past weekend
http://rt.com/usa/white-house-confirms-cia-ukraine-448/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome
US considers offering military help to Ukraine – Kerry advisor
http://rt.com/usa/shannon-state-arm-ukraine-436/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome
This was common during the cold war. We buzzed them too. But I guess that is so 19th century
Dennis,
If Syrians had half of those people’s faith there would of never been a civil war there.
Not that I agree we should be developing these lands but I digress…Surely even your average american idiot realizes there are better ways to structure deals like this. We certainly have the upper hand in any negotiations because these energy companies can’t do squat until they have land to build on and we’ve got the land. The simple fact that they’re selling it off for pennies on the dollar as opposed to negotiating some sort of land use / discounted energy deal clearly illustrates the absolute corruption involved. These deals defy ALL common sense.
Our government is selling off our land at pennies on the dollar to regimes that hold us hostage. Our corrupt politicians/financial whores need to keep the holders of our treasury bonds from selling en mass and crashing the US economy. In other words, the scum, like Dirty Harry, are collateralizing the U.S. debt with our land
Two points:
Regarding Kerry & Iran:
It is (or should be) becoming painfully obvious that our ‘threats’ to Russia, Iran and China of late by Secretary Hagel and Kerry, have very little to do with ‘freedom & democracy’ (Gawd how I love that cynical phrase coined by PCR), and Everything to do with protecting energy trade in $USD… Trust this – behind the facade of recent ‘consumer spending’ numbers and other ‘good news’ economic phoniness, the United States is deeply worried about not only the $petrodollar situation in real terms, but the ‘Perception’ of this scenario playing out, and ‘dawning’ on the American public at some future point. The entire ball of wax is held together by Confidence in the system, and whatever Lies need be proffered by the government to prop up that facade, Will Be.
Regarding the BLM attempted land grab:
#1: It ain’t over… Stay on top of this – the BLM has just stated that they have given Mr. Bundy no such ‘pass’… It has been suggested that the BLM ‘soldiers’ were probing the crowd there to assess the ‘strength’ or opposing enemy capabilities and have ‘backed off’ in order to regroup and ready for the real assault. Keep in mind that cell phone towers in the area were ‘deactivated’, airspace restricted to 3000′, roads blocked off and ‘1st amendment zones’ installed. These are the preparatory actions of a military-style assault, nothing less.
Something else to consider here:
#2. What about the BLM ‘soldiers’ themselves? Who are they? What oath did they swear to? Many of these people have families; they are our neighbors and even, friends in many cases. They are ‘Americans’ like you & me. What mindset would overcome a person to train killing weaponry on a fellow citizen for simply standing up for a set of rights that these same ‘soldiers’ took an oath to keep…?
Folks, these aren’t ‘Republicans or Democrats’ in most cases. They are Order-followers. They are in many cases, ambivalent or even, indifferent to what may happen to fellow citizens as a result of their actions. Yes, they have to ‘do their job’ in order to put food on the table, but what after that? What is more important? You are looking at basically what amounts to government-hired Mercenaries. Observe the threats made by some of the officers in charge of this detail…
In closing, this incident in Clark county is Proof beyond any doubt, that ‘We the People’ are NOT Immune from the historical record of Tyranny, when government overreach is allowed to flourish –
The Movie Blazing Saddles reminds me of the B.L.M. Land Grabbing ! Just like Hedy Lamar! But with far more sinister intent! Only it’s not a movie, it’s all to real If you are an off-road enthusiast , you know all to well! I could go on ad nauseum ,about these Jerks especially the ones in the field ! They even have a private group of them “B.L.M. Personel”, who go by the name Center for Biodiversity Who will sue them selves i.e. ”B.L.M. to work the system, to get Government money for their noble cause! To close areas set aside for off- roading They operate like they are in Stalinist Russia! I can only assume the higher ups are even more spiteful , deceitful, and dishonest! Kind of like the current sickos who are in power ,in the capitol! P.S. I refuse to call that city/ cesspool , where this regime resides! Washington D.C. It is an insult to Washington ,and Christopher Columbus !!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqomZQMZQCQ
Now that’s funny/
Same game, different year. While the nominal value of real estate may go up, its real value will not keep pace, and may even decline, as the value of the dollar continues to plummet. And, as usual, the average Joe will be fooled into thinking he/she has retained their wealth until the crash, and reality sets in.
Slightly confused…
Is he implying real estate is a wise investment or not?
If all these foreign investors are gobbling up land/property in the US, to me that says that real estate possess a solid grounding for whats to come in the future.
This is why I disagree with the concept of those who say a “complete economic collapse” is inevitable, why would these countries (china etc) be purchasing all this if the US is “doomed”?.
Perhaps they know something we don’t that gives them confidence in purchasing property?
Some one correct me if I’m wrong, but he seems to be stating that real estate is a wise investment for X amount of years, but eventually will fall into a downwards trend.
My Friend Al,
Think of the economy as a a handful of Pick-up Sticks thrown in the air. We all know that the sticks are going to land on the table, but it is nearly impossible to predict which sticks will fall to the bottom and which will be on top. Same with the economic system we are in, the variability arises because there are so many actions that the government (and the primary players can take) so that it is not possible to predict with certainty what the outcome will be. We place our bets and take our chances. I would say that in most cases land would be a better bet than say, pianos, but that is no guarantee that you will have the cash to pay the taxes to keep it.
Sincerely,
STM
Our world is over as we know it. Soon, we will have to answer to Forgien countries,ie; China, Saudia Arabia, etc. Laws will be changed,taxes, immigration already shows massive illegal Muslem immigration.( passports not necessary). What has happened to our Country? Where has justice and morality gone? Is it all to late? Is there nothing to be done? People go around singing “happy song” without a clue,about what’s happening. Their is none so blind,as he,who will not see. God help us!
Cleo,
It’s too depressing to dwell on what is happening. IMO it is best to just prepare as best you can for the worst case scenario. That includes thinking about a safe place to live away from the city where mayhem may erupt. Take action. Get out of the system.
Amen Calgirl. It is very important to stay informed to assess various threats and their fluid threat levels. However the areas of preparation are basically the same (water, food, shelter, security etc.) for most scenarios. Civility will break down.
Cleo
I understand your concern. These wicked Moslems want to destroy our way of life and bring Sharia law. At that point, you’ll see what a real war on women looks like instead of the contrived on the Dems say Reps are waging.
Why did the govt get to keep all this land? Why is Sen. Reid not in jail? Tortoise takes precedence over a rancher but Harry Reid stealing a buck takes precedence over anything.
You have to ask yourself why this is Obama’s biggest concern when he is doing his level best to foment inserection. Is he planning to nuke DC while his core group of supporters are elsewhere?
Greg,
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-04-14/obama-s-shrinking-budget-deficits-silence-foreign-fiscal-critics.html
Anyone out there believe this?
Sandman,
At the end fiscal 2013 the White House said the deficit shrunk to just $680 billion. According to John Williams the budget deficit counting all debt and commitments for fiscal 2013 was $6.2 trillion using GAAP. This is not a misprint or a mistake, $6.2 trillion. So when you ask “Anyone out there believe this?”, in two words HELL NO!!!!! Thank you for your comment.
Greg
And I just got more good news…our taxable income is going up 13.5% for 2014 even as our real income stays the same. That is how much employer paid health insurance is going to be taxable in 2014.
Its springtime. Keep shoveling that manure.
Jerry
if Washington could find a way to turn all the manure they create into methane, lets just say we would never be short of gas
As an old military analyst, with collateral duties in other agencies, and a follower of Constitutional issues, I found the article on Mr. Calvo to be most relevant to the ongoing struggles such as the Bundy Ranch Standoff. Only, it is the tip of the Iceberg Here is a link to a small group of powerpoint slides, ( 5 ) to be exact, that answer “why” and as well, for a deeper read into the complete subject, a second link for followup.
Link of 5: http://www.slideshare.net/slideshow/embed_code/33533470
The full powerpoint will change what you perceived in relation to the life one thinks we are living and the full intention of the people involved in what is happening. You will not be the same when you finish the full powerpoint.
See: Full Powerpoint: http://www.slideshare.net/slideshow/embed_code/27938724
Lt. Robert K. Powell GDO ( ret. )
Thank Lt. Robert K. Powell Jr. for posting this!!!
Greg
Thanks for the post and thanks for your service
MR HUNTER
YOUR SITE IS FULL OF REASONS WHY WE’RE HEADED TO THE OLE
“HAND BASKET” BUT THERE MUST BE SOMEONE WHO COULD TELL
US HOW WHEN AND WHERE THIS IS ALL GOING TO WORK OUT GREAT
HOW BOUT KRUGMAN OR BUFFETT OR SOME PERSON WHO CAN EXPLAIN
THE REASONS THIS DEBT OR CAPITAL MISALLOCATIONS WILL WORK OUT
OK………I ASKED MY SMARTEST, RICHEST FRIEND TO EXPLAIN IT TO ME ,
HIS REPLY : YOU WORRY TOO MUCH”
The problem is that the explanation they use doesnt pass the smell test and fails even simple math. imagine that our nationa debt is your credit card balance and its approaching your yearly total income. If you call the credit card to get a line of credit increase, what do you think the answer would be? Would you loan a person more money that already owes yiu what he makes in a year?
so why would the world loan us more money?
Greg,
Our 16 trillion economy is a sham. Consider that 115 million jobs out of 137 million are based in health care, government, education, leisure/hospitality, law, insurance, construction, finance, real estate and retail. Manufacturing is only 8.9 % of the economy. In a real economy, above jobs depend on industry and manufacturing for existence. Ours is upside down. Sham job sectors continue because the US dollar is the world’s reserve currency, allowing government to print dollars and accumulate debt to support them.
If the dollar crashes, won’t most if not all the intertwined plunder/poverty/corruption/pleasure/indoctrinating/debt based job sectors follow suit or be significantly marginalized? This is probably why politicians are acting so lawlessly and willing to go to war to protect the dollar. This is a hard pill to swallow but you should report on it anyway as it appears to be the heart of the matter.
Something tells me, this isn’t over (yet). I hope there will be an even larger number of American Citizens to protect the Bundys and their ranch – next time. The Feds will likely be back, with more armed men (BLM “Rangers”, and maybe assistance from one or more other Fed agencies). If the same result is to happen again – the Feds will need to be met with overwhelming (armed-to-the-teeth) opposition. Spread the word.
Greg,
I watch and admire most of the commentators that you have on most of the time, but this business about the outlaw ranchers is over the top and you and the audience are missing key facts. First, the Bundy’s already had their day in court and lost in their dispute about grazing fees. Its like this. If you decide to not renew your license and I catch you driving, then I have every right as a law enforcement officer to arrest you and impound your car and use whatever force necessary to make sure that happens. If you were to resist, then I would have every right and a duty to suvdue you by whatever means necessary up to and including lethal force if necessary. So what the Bundy’s and their accomplices have done is nothing more than flout the law and that is something that can never be allowed in this country if we are to have law and order. Its bad enough when we back down with Iran, Syria, Russia or when it comes to recovering the treasonous Snowden, but allowing the BLM to back down in this matter really demonstrates that we have spineless leadership in this country. I should say mostly spinless because Senator Reid is at least going to get to the bottom of this and ensure that the perpetrators dont get away, but in the final analysis justice will not have been done until we have stacked up some bodies and arrest the remaining survivors of this standoff for defying the lawful orders of the U.S government.
So you believe the ranchers should be shot. Dude, I bet you felt the same way about DR Martin Luther King Jr and black Americans when they resisted authorities and an unjust law. Why is Holder and Obama arrested? The are in violation of their oaths and of the law?
Greg
http://theweek.com/article/index/259829/if-a-nuclear-bomb-exploded-in-downtown-washington-what-should-you-do
What should you do if D.C. took a 10 kiloton nuke? Run!!!!
The assault on gold is in full swing. Lost $45 since attack started. After New York opened at 8 it went straight down $20
Gold is on sale
Funny USA govt warning Afghanistan about corruption. …HAHAHA
we must be telling them they need to be more corrupt like us
http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/apr/14/us-fears-afghan-services-may-be-cut-as-corruption-/
Greg, I have been talking with a few of my law enforcement buddies as well as friends in government enforcement agencies and it is really clear that this entire family and all their supporters will likely end up dead as a result of the belligerent posture they have taken towards the United States Government. Their behavior in all of this has been an outrage and an affront to every law abiding and decent American out there. They have one chance and one chance only to get out of this alive and that is if they immediately leave their weapons right where they are and IMMEDIATLY go directly to the Sheriffs office and surrender. They will then be charged with any applicable and appropriate offenses where warranted, but at least they wont be shot to pieces. And make no mistake, if they dont comply, they will all most certainly be shot so full of holes they wont be recognizable! When our boys put the hammer down, it goes down! Law and order must reign supreme! Your platform here could do much to inform them and can serve as a public announcement for the benefit of all Americans. I think it goes without saying that lawlessness will not be tolerated!
Ed Jiminez,
Your Law enforcement buddies ignoring massive banker crime, which includes money laundering for drug cartels and terrorists. Both HSBC and Deloitte Consulting (for Standard Charter Bank) paid fines for that in the last year or so. What about that lawlessness? That’s OK? “We the People” cannot redress the government? Your Law enforcement buddies should be arresting the bankers that put this country in the financial mess it is in. Your law enforcement sounds like tyranny to me. This should not end in violence and if you are advocating that, you and your “law enforcement buddies” should be ashamed. You and your law enforcement buddies work for “We the People,” not the other way around.
Greg
Oh by the way, I looked up your website: [email protected] Nothing there. Are you really a paid government troll?
Isn’t there a border they can “manage”?
Greg,
Government Troll ? Absolutely not! My secondary email is not a “website.” It is an email address.
However, mark my words. These scoflaws need to surrender and be voluntarily arrested. Operations will assuredly be forthcoming at such a time when the loss of life can be reduced as mucg as possible, but it is already understood that this will not be a bloodless event. That said, if the loss of life can be limited to 100 instead of 200 say, then all efforts will be exhaisted to that end. Noone wants to see a bloodbath, but these people are making that eventuality a certainty. Lon Horiuchi might again just don his snipers rifle for this turkey shoot and welcome sight it will be. I hope he racks up a dozen or so trophy heads.
Ed,
What is [email protected]? Where is your company so we know you are not a paid troll. You are one sick individual to say, “I hope he racks up a dozen or so trophy heads.” I guess you are not going to answer the question of why your “law enforcement buddies” are not arresting the bankers for massive crime that includes admitted money laundering for terror groups. You guys are good with that? You like banker tyranny? Your “law enforcement buddies” best respect the will of the people and the U.S. Constitution. When you say crude disgusting things like “I hope he racks up a dozen or so trophy heads,” it makes me feel you and your “law enforcement buddies” forgot who pays you and who you work for. In case you didn’t remember it is “We the People.”
Greg
Greg
this guy wouldn’t pass a psych screening to be at a real LEO position and I think its just some troubled soul looking for attention while dreaming of being a man. He just looking to be provocative
Greg,
I am a ranking member of an intercounty SWAT team and in addition I do consulting work for several corporate high risk security operations. These aspects of my vocation dont impair my opinion that we can not tolerate criminal terrorist behavior. One way or another, these people will be brought to justice. I only hope that they wont put their kids and old folks in harms way. If they cease and decist and surrender peacably, things will go much easier on them and they will save their own lives and those of their kids. If they force a seige, then our government has every right to frame the rules of engagement so that this contest can be brought to a speedy conclusion. Once the operation begins, collateral damage can not be ruled out. These militia people can talk all big and bad, but trust me we have resources and tools of our trade that these crude militia people can little imagine. These people need to surrender and they need to do it now. The fun is going to start any time now. And we arent just talking Lapua .338’s here. We could be talking a 50,000 on 1,000 engagement from 3 dimensions. I bet that idea will stir your imagination. And well it should. Cause thats the firepower and force these terrorists will be up against. Choice is theirs. Life ? Or a river of cold blood flowing out of a sorry county full of stipid criminal idiots and their kids.
Where do you work Ed? I’d love to know this. What you are saying would sound great in German around 1939. Are you just going to come and shoot me because you don’t like what I am saying? You sound like you need psychiatric help. You sound sick in the head and unstable.
Greg
So Ed,
The govt has already ordered the murder of these citizens? And you know about it and you think it’s a splendid idea? Most of the LEOs I know wouldn’t urinate on you if you were on fire. While I admit there are some sick bastards that have made it into law enforenforcement from time to time, most of the time they keep people like you out. If you arent a govt troll, then you missed your calling.
Hate to break it to you but the govt is by the people for the people. Dude, I pity you if this is what you really believe.
Duh ? You dont think operations are in the planning stages ? Regarding your assertions, I get along with my team splendidly. I enjoy my job. What can I say?
I also have a clear conscience about my work despite some of the lethal outcomes.
You have a clear consciousness? Dude, you are utterly devoid of one.
And you invoke the name of Lon Horiuchi, a fine spieceman of FBI, that murdered an innocent woman holding a child at Ruby Ridge and was at Waco. What a childish attempt to be a baddie. Go back to World of Warcraft and leave this conversation to the adults.
as far as you not being a troll, I am not buying that. You are either a government instigator or you’re some poor guy needing psychological help.
Lon Horiuchi was an upstanding agent and patriot. He is a West Point graduate!!!! Not many of us can say that. That bitch holding the child deserved to die cause she helped instigate the situation. If she had cooperated, she and her whole family would be alive today. You know something ? Sometimes I feel like I am talking to children, but let me give you a little hint and it might be something importatnt for you to know. I dont care if you agree of disagree with the government. But never ever ever EVER f@#$ with the government. OR you will end up in a body bag with your internal organs ballistically lacerated and crushed. And thats if you arent vaporized more or less by the artillery.
Ed Jiminez,
I can’t believe the overwhelming majority of law enforcement thinks the way you do. I don’t care where Lon went to college. He shot a mother holding a child. When you say “That bitch holding the child deserved to die cause she helped instigate the situation.” It exposes you for a thug. You should be ashamed. We don’t work for the government it works for “We the People.” By the way Ed where do you work? What is your background. Please prove you are not a paid troll. No respectable law enforcement officer would says what you are saying. I am requiring a real verifiable name from you or no more comments here. You are disgusting and a disgrace to law enforcement if you really are in law enforcement.
Greg
Dude,
I went to a candle light vigil for a real LEO recently. The idea that you think you’re one is disturbing. If you are a real LEO and you’re involved in the murder you so gleefully advocate, you know this will be tracked back to you. Which leads me to believe you one of those wannabes. Please, for your sake, go back on your meds
Never ever f $(# with the govt….hahaha
we plan to do just that this November. We are going to flush you and your like minded communist thug friends. If you were a real LEO, I’d love to see your file. Sure the IA is watching
you remind me of the old crazy white supremacists that even the other white supremacists avoided because even they knew he was mentally disturbed. He hated jews but ended up shooting Christians.
Greg,
The more I think about it, the more I think this is one of those DHS trolls thats paid to monitor freedom and real news site. I’m guessing that he’s trying to foment a little inserection so he can report us to his keepers. Or he may be one of those DHS, BLM, or ATF jack booted thugs that believe the public are their enemies and threat people like shiite but when these agencies are swept clean of the riffraft with the coming change in govt, maybe we will be safer
Just because a court finds for the govt doesn’t make it just. And when you have a lawless govt squashing the guy so Harry and Rory Reid CAN steal some more money…it makes everyone upset. If all your law enforcement buddies feel the way you stated then LEOs have sure dredged the bottom of the he barrel.
Dude
Since you are getting all law and order on us, why arent you enforcing the immigration and getting all these criminal illegal aliens out. Or do you pick and choose what laws you enforce.
Ed ,
I tend to see it happening the way you have described it, but here is the catch.
The confrontation will go to the side of the government no doubt in my mind since their hammer is much bigger than what most militia members may think, I have seen this playbook in Syria.
Now there has to be a wise way to strike some kind of a deal in between that preserves the pride of both sides, there has to be an effort to do to end this peacefully, some one wants to set up both sides for a blood shed (god forbid, am still praying it will be thwarted, and who knows prayers are powerful and have miraculous ways) that will extend beyond the boundaries of Bundy Ranch. I have seen it happening exactly in Syria, same damn playbook same exact steps that ripped the country into a civil war that is been fueling itself for 3 years no end in sight.
THERE HAS TO BE SOME WISE MEN TO DIFFUSE THIS PEACEFULLY.
If any blood shed that may include families or women or kids take place then we are all screwed in America.
GOSH I LOST A HOME I DO NOT WANT TO LOSE MY ONLY LEFT ONE!
Your guests plus readers comments are priceless. Perhaps what is happening in Nevada right now is the modern day equivalent to Paul Revere’s midnight ride. We are living in perilous times BUT there are still millions of tough Americans focused in. Keep the faith.
News FLASH: BLM planning clandestine raid on Bundy’s
http://www.wnd.com/2014/04/sheriff-feds-strategize-for-raid-on-ranch/
He charged that it is Reid who is destroying his own state’s ranching industry as well as the U.S. Constitution. The sheriff chided the senator for making statements about abiding by laws.
“Isn’t that amazing? The biggest crook in Washington,” Mack said.
back.”
As WND reported, an estimated 200 armed officers of the BLM had been deployed to Bundy’s property in Bunkerville, Nev., 80 miles northeast of Las Vegas, charging the rancher has been in violation of a law that aims to protect an endangered desert tortoise. The BLM also said Bundy owes more than $1 million in grazing fees to the federal government.
But Bundy found support from the governor and other prominent political leaders along with a host of protesters from other states, including fellow cattle ranchers and private armed militias.
A Montana militia member, Jim Lardy, told KLAS-TV in Las Vegas his group, Operation Mutual Aid, was prepared to “provide armed response.”
He said he was not afraid to shoot, if necessary.
“They have guns. We need guns to protect ourselves from the tyrannical government,” Lardy said.
Other militia members were joining him, he said: “There is many more coming.”
Nevada’s Republican Gov. Brian Sandoval said the federal government’s tactics allowed the tensions to nearly erupt in armed violence.
“No cow justifies the atmosphere of intimidation which currently exists nor the limitation of constitutional rights that are sacred to all Nevadans,” Sandoval said. “The BLM needs to reconsider its approach to this matter and act accordingly.”
Cliven Bundy’s son, Ammon Bundy, told WND earlier that federal authorities had not been merely relocating the cattle but were engaged in actions that killed some animals.
“They are flying helicopters over the herd to chase them,” Ammon Bundy said. “It was over 90 degrees here today, and the cattle can’t run very far in this heat before collapsing. This is especially true for the young calves. We have a lot of them being born because it is springtime, and they don’t have the strength to keep up with their mothers when they are running. The cattle then become overheated and die.”
Cliven Bundy is the last rancher operating in Clark County, where he’s been grazing his cattle on a 600,000-acre portion of land managed by the BLM called Gold Butte. His family, whose ties to the land go back to the 1880s, has been engaged in a dispute since 1993 with the Bureau of Land Management over long-established cattle-grazing rights.
I read an update where the BLM spent almost two million to collect these cattle for a supposed debt of less than a million. Does anyone wonder why we are bankrupt…But then it never was about the money owed. One of Harry Reid’s rancher buddies got a much better deal from the BLM at Dingy’s request. So what’s up with that. Why should Harry’s campaign donor get a deal not offered to others?
The real reason BLM left in addition to televised bloodshed of innocent men, women, and children. … No cattle auction or cowboys in NV would work for or sell the cattle. So they paid UT cowboys $900K and an auction co $300K+ but then the Gov of UT issued an order that the cattle could not be transported or sold in UT. So BLM, which had run some cows to death with their helicopters, had cows they had to feed and water or they would die.
Now Harry Reid calls the Bundys domestic terrorists because they are costing him and his boy Rory money. Now Rory, condemned the heated nature of what his dispute. ..he really ants the pay off from the Chinese. And his pappy, say we are a nation of laws and these people are domestic terrorists. The real domestic terrorists. ..the BLM.
If we are a nation of laws, why are the bankers not in jail? Why is Harry Reid and Rory not in jail? Why are people not in jail over the crimes committed by the IRS?
ONE MORE thing Harry Reid is upset about is that the public had arms so they could defend themselves if the BLM attacked. Heaven forbid that the public can shoot back if shot at by the evil jack booted thugs pointing automatic weapons at unarmed men, women and children. Oh, there were armed men amoung them. Free men. Harry Reid is stoking this saying that charges should be brought against Clive Bundy. How about prosecutorial discretion that Obama uses on whims?
Obama and Holder are not enforcing immigration law. Holder facilitated pardons for Marc Rich and the Weather Underground. Obama and Holder are very cavalier about enforcing certain laws, so why not let this go? Oh, right…its going to cost Harry Reid money
Great interview. I think Fabian, however, is wrong on the impact that marketing ARMs will have on home prices- he expects them to continue to rise. I think the housing recovery which was characterized by rising home prices (not sales) is already over
Here is why http://smaulgld.com/housing-recovery-never-was-over/
Interesting video about the situation may hint to some Israelis BLM agents or some ME foreigners by the same poster Dennis you referred to:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWwtB1L8LzA&list=UUEo9S5mMQ7z4n7ZiuUoBFRw
Doc
again with the Israelites…they wouldn’t be caught dead working with these BLM scumbags. There are more hidden moslems causing trouble than the jews.
Greg,
Dennis brought to my radar screen the Bundy Ranch that i was not aware of up until i read his post. Thinking about it now it is VERY BIG, and it should be on every one’s radar screen until it resolves peacefully hopefully.
This is how the Syrian civil war started when it was supposed to be a peaceful confrontation in DARAA in Southern Syria 3 years ago, i see similar eery resemblance, emotions are inflamed, freedom tingly feelings that recruits militias and pit them against the government, god forbid if one shot is fired it will be ugly. I am praying that cool heads will simmer down the crowds, i have a gut feeling that it will escalate, the feds will never allow this example to set for others to follow suite especially if a federal court ruled and the militia with ranchers think they can reverse it with guns.
Prayers for some wisdom to prevail.
Mohammad,
Prayers indeed are needed. Have you noticed the USA Today and other news outlets have been largely ignoring this Bundy ranch story?
Greg
Greg,
This is a very big story, I have no doubt in my mind that the feds will never allow a precedent to be set in which a court order can be challenged, simply it cannot happen, and I have no doubt in my mind that they will raid the ranch, now this is a WACO waiting to happen with all the ramification and the potential blood shed that can take place that may resonate with the militias and law enforcement all over the states if god forbid bloodshed was heavy.
There has to be a wise way to end this, and I am afraid that it will go to a confrontation unless some influential people on both sides find a solution that will keep the pride of both sides intact, remember when I said watch Ukraine watch Ukraine a while back I will say it now:
WATCH BUNDY RANCH!
WATCH BUNDY RANCH!
WATCH BUNDY RANCH!
AND PRAY!
Check out Port Westward in my little home town of Clatskanie, Oregon. The port is selling out to Chinese companies. Land that was taken from farmers. Prime agricultural land on the Columbia River. One company, Global, wants to make ethanol here, to ship to China, to make Plastics, to ship back here. They also want to ship Coal. And they want to ship Bakken Crude Oil. Please check it out. It’s happening in tiny little po-dunk towns where the ‘politicians’ don’t know any better. They promise ‘local jobs’ for the folks, but then import folks to do those jobs. Lies, lies, lies.
Greg, Recently Dimtri Orlov put out different collapse scenarios. Howvere he did make an interesting point that I have wondered about for the past 2 years.
He said as things get much worse for the country, you will statr to see an exodus of those with considerable means becoming ex-pats in more econ friendly countries.
He then said, that we will begin to see an exodus of younger college grads deeply laden down with debt, coming to th conclusin that USA is not viable and they will try to leave.
These scenarios seem very logical but not really expanded upon. Was wondering what you thought of this angle.
Thanks as always
Greg,
Sometimes I feel like I’m living in the Twilight Zone.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/15/usa-fed-yellen-idUSL2N0N70IV20140415
Who is Janet Yellen speaking to in this report? The Wall Street Banks and the Fed are one on the same.
The problems with real estate in today’s exciting world are serious and manifold.
Real estate can rot, be trashed, burned down, exploded, be next door to xxxxxx, swept away by flood water, slide upside down in mud, seized, confiscated, taxed into oblivion, undergo civil forfeiture, any combination of the above, etc…
And the “etc” above may be the most significant. i wouldn’t invest in real estate under any -repeat any- circumstances…
Oh yes, and real estate may be insured by an insurance company that just underwent TOTAl collapse.
I wish the main stream media would comment on the proposed Regional Mitigation
Strategy for the
Dry Lake Solar
Energy Zone for the Bundy Ranch
ref BLM WEBSITE
http://www.blm.gov/pgdata/etc/medialib/blm/wo/blm_library/tech_notes.Par.29872.File.dat/TN_444.pdf
The Student Revolutionary Strike Force is monitoring this and many other situations and assisting the growing cohort of modern-day patriots attempting to neutralize some of the elites’ indoctrination that has allowed them to commit continuous class war against We, the People… the masses of common folks who have been spit upon for far too long.
Economic integration is inevitable. In a capital market it works this way.
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