Manipulation of Gold and Silver Definitely Ends This Year-Harvey Organ
By Greg Hunter’s USAWatchdog.com
Harvey Organ has been on a personal mission to expose the “fraudulent manipulation” of the gold and silver markets since the late 1990’s. Organ, who studies these markets daily, contends, “It’s definitely going to happen this year.” Why does Organ think this? Let’s start with the gold market. Organ says, “You are seeing a huge amount of obligations per one ounce of gold that’s available, and as the gold moves from West to East, and the bubble of paper obligations that’s left are going to blow up. So, that is what we are basically seeing in gold. There is a massive movement basically towards three countries . . . Russia . . . China . . . and India. So, if you figure the world produces no more than 2,200 tons of gold per year, excluding China and Russia, more than 100% of that gold is going to those countries.” Organ goes on to say, “I doubt very much if the United States has one ounce of gold left.”
The price suppression game has been going on for a long time. Why does Organ think it will finally end this year? Organ says, “There is a deficit of gold of 1,800 to 2,000 tons per year. The leasing game started in 1988, and it starts going much higher in 1993. So, over the last 20 or 30 years, all that gold has been leased out. Gold that’s been leased never comes back. Now, this is why there are huge derivatives outstanding. . . . Gold at the central banks is gone.” Organ explains, “You can always paper over a paper problem, but you cannot paper over a physical default. I don’t think there is any left, and this is the year they run out of gold to deliver at GLD, Comex and the LBMA (London Bullion Market Association). How do we know it is officially over? Organ says, “Probably, China announces to the world how much gold it has.”
Organ says when China and Russia disclose the true amount of gold they hold, there will be a price spike never before seen in the history of the world. Organ says, “You will see that you will go to sleep at night, and you will wake up the next morning and see gold bidding at $3,000 per ounce, and there will be no offer, and it will rise by $500 a day. It will come in 2014. They are running out, they don’t have it.”
The supplies for silver are even more strained and suppressed according to Organ. He says, “Silver is similar to what is going on in gold, but even better. In China, on September 22, they are going to have a futures market similar to Comex, but it will be in physical metal. You settle in physical metal. So, for the first time, you are going to see the pure price discovery mechanism work, and it’s going to be in total conflict to the crimes that are being committed on the Comex. Organ thinks silver will trade at “$200 per ounce” and says, “By December, this whole thing is going to collapse. . . . A year ago, Shanghai’s (China) silver inventory was approximately 33 million ounces. Today, it is 2.9 million ounces. It is losing about 2 million ounces per month, which means they have maybe two months’ supply left. . . . Where is China going to get its silver? The only above ground hoard of silver that is left is at the Comex. I don’t think much is there, but whatever is left, China is going to grab it. . . . They have Comex surrounded (with long positions on silver) and that is the end game.”
Organ adds, “It will be a failure to deliver, and a failure to deliver is the same as a default. China is going to demand what they want.” Is all the war talk in the South China Sea and in the Ukraine crisis and ISIS in the Middle East a way to cover over a financial calamity? Organ says, “That’s exactly why you are seeing this. You got it. That’s exactly what’s happening. It’s a physical default, and China is not going to sit idly by. It will want its silver back or it will say I will tell the world, or it will flood the world with its $3 trillion U.S. dollars. . . . The whole thing is going to happen all at once. You are going to see it.” Join Greg Hunter as he goes One-on-One with Harvey Organ of HarveyOrgan.blogspot.com.
(There is much more in the video interview.)
After the Interview:
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Greg Hunter
Greg is the producer and creator of USAWatchdog.com. The site’s slogan is “analyzing the news to give you a clear picture of what’s really going on.” The site will keep an eye on the government, your financial interests and cut through the media spin. USAWatchdog.com is neither Democrat nor Republican, Liberal or Conservative. Before creating and producing the site, Greg spent nearly 9 years as a network and investigative correspondent. He worked for ABC News and Good Morning America for nearly 6 years. Most recently, Greg worked for CNN for shows such as Paula Zahn Now, American Morning and various CNN business shows.
What springs to mind after watching this interview is the TLN $$$ question….
What comes first ….A default in physical delivery on AU/AG …OR… WAR ??
If what HO purports to be true that China may pursue delivery on long contracts once its physical hoard is depleted, then doesn’t that by association imply failure of the Bullion Banks (Naked Shorts = Price Suppression) and the beginning of a new monetary system. HO did suggest the USD at 50 on the DXY implying the mother of all crashes and the commencement of Hyper-Inflation. Given that that information is factored into the market efficiency theory (every man and his dog is aware of it), wouldn’t the US pre-empt that event with an alternative scenario.
A secondary thought…. is China / Russia ready to go live with a new monetary system ?
A third thought… is the US ready for chaos, rioting and social upheaval on a scale never before seen?
Answers to those questions will be known in a short space of time.
A hint to future currency issues will be seen in the upward movement in Bond (Sovereign) rates. Watch these very carefully.
I have long held the belief that China & Russia have had the US over a barrel and are about to tighten the screws. The US/ UK (Anglo American fascist team) have painted themselves into the most acute corner. Leasing out Gold was always going to buy (excuse the pun) time, but as Harvey postulates (and he did so many times Greg) they have simply run out (or about to) of physical. Here’s where it makes logical sense….Knowing what the FED/BOE know about fiat money system and the abuse inflicted on its nation alongside those of other western and eastern nations, the forced selling / delivery of Gold to protect the currency was always going to deliver the buyer the ownership of the new world’s reserve currency.
Unwillingly but knowingly they have handed the baton over to China and Russia.
We could conceivably have a trifecta about to come good. Bonds, then stocks followed by currency crash. That leads to Harvey’s time bomb (default on PM’s) which then implodes the derivatives. Shut the front door. Its a quartet !!!
I was so looking forward to a happy end of year celebration.
Silence
You are absolutely correct. The only bells that will be ringing in December will be the ones for “whom the bell tolled”.
@Jerry: If you remember my source said back in early July that the metals would fall and to get in position for this event despite everyone’s prediction they were set for a moon shot. This was posted on this site back in early July! The information still holds that the metals will start an uptrend around Oct or Nov. I’m going to check with my source again for the latest updates and will post again shortly. Until then hold tight as the bottom in the metals is close.
West Tejas I remember your call, and apparently it was a good one. Please come back anytime for an update.
Greg
Saturday 25th October 2014-10-25
Preamble
My article has been prompted by the interview with Harvey Organ. Excellent prognosis of where precious metals are heading.
Since that time Harvey’s blog has been taken off the web by court order.
This signals to me that Harvey Organ is very close to the truth.
I do not rely on statistical charts to
forecast the future I prefer to use common sense and that common sense tells me
that the current imbalance in society and the financial markets will cause a
perfect storm of trouble and strife on a global scale which none of us will be
immune from.
It takes $1000 of manpower to produce 1 oz of Gold it takes $1 to produce $1000 of paper money.
Article
The folly of QE has best served the elite. The figures regarding productivity to boost GDP have been manipulated. The manufacturing base of the West has been destroyed by China. All these factors have already been built into the system by the think tanks.
Easy monetary policies of those countries involved in QE is sowing the seeds of their own demise. Flooding the economy and financial markets with money (and credit) created out of thin air – thereby distorting interest rates and price signals and, in so doing, creating malinvestments – is no way to create sustainable, economic growth and ever rising equity prices. Sure, at first glance, the malinvestments and attendant booming equity prices look like genuine growth and wealth creation. But they are not.
Like extreme weather patterns which share a common link with the ever-increasing reliance of fossil fuels, so too is the pumped up wealth which relies on Government’s around the World increasing money supply by way of QE.
In both cases this is opposing the natural forces and it will ultimately fail.
Enter 2015 and the signals will be flashing loud and clear.
We are now seeing China fraying around the edges (China’s QE outstrips that of the US) and the time is nearing when the two biggest economies in the world will collapse like houses of cards’.China has one advantage it is sitting on 6000 tonnes of Gold and the US and Britain purportedly have none.
The West is already suffering deflation so it stands to reason that China will follow
sometime in 2015 The stress caused by falling GDP in China is when China will ask for all its gold back which is currently long at Comex.
All countries that have relied on the US & China to promote their own growth will show that they are all bankrupt of any ideas that satisfy the masses.
Christine Lagarde quoted in January 2014 “We need a reset in the way the economy grows around the world”
I would prefer to say “We need a reset in the way that governmental policies reward productivity and do not promote greed through artificial means.
You cannot spend your way out of a recession or borrow your way out of debt. The measure of who we are is what we do with what we have.
Finally, quote from Ludwig von Mises
The gold standard has one tremendous virtue: the quantity of the money supply, under the gold standard,is independent of the policies of governments and political parties. This is its advantage. It is a form of protection against spendthrift governments.
Regards
Mike Harvey
Resident in Ireland
Greg & West Tejas,
Does bullion price hike this year mean that Western Banking System collapses this year, and by corollary, does that mean the international bankers will start something like WW III to deflect the attention somewhere else?
SIG
agreed!!
I believe Rob Kirby said the same thing that Harveu Organ said the wars are about…the war will start when China does not get its gold.
Just a small correction…Shanghai Bullion Exchange goes live on September 26, 2014.
Greetings Greg, thanks for having Harvey Organ and other non-mainstream guests like Rob Kirby, Dr. Jim Willie, John Williams, Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, Bill Holter, Andy Hoffmann, and others. A big thank you.
We need people to accept and tolerate the differences between peoples and religions in order to work towards peace…which is exactly opposite to what Satan and his bondsmen, i.e. international bankers, want, that is, international intrigue where these psychopath fascists are trying to defame all monotheistic religion by putting Muslims, Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus at loggerhead with each other, so the confused masses will accept the pure doctrine of lucifer that will be introduced by the elite.
Let us not give these blood-thirsty Satanist a field day, and bring people diverse people together in the name of humanly brotherhood and peace.
SIG,
I have to agree with you, Jerry; and second allen ols. The titanic stupidity – which the majority of Americans have NO IDEA about, still seems like the Twilight Zone. (I saw Obama; Biden; and Kerry on the US Consulate wall in Guadalajara – and remarked what Doofuses our country had.)
It almost makes me want to say: ‘Gentlemen, it has been an honor…’
Sooner or later, doesn’t matter when, Harvey will be right. If it is sooner, then Greg Hunter has just saved quite a few of us from what is coming by having us prepare sooner than later, having us buy gold and silver now, getting our land ready, our homes sold, our food stored, our hunting licenses in place, and giving our children maybe a chance that otherwise they would not have had. God bless Harvey for his insights and intelligence, and God bless Greg for delving deep into the rabbit hole and presenting this information to all of us. Pray for our country and for all those who are in the dark on what is coming…….
lynn, ditto
Lynn , Allen . I agree whole hearted. It is not so much about me being prepared. It is more about what will we help the future people accomplish. Well said Lynn. Thank you!
“hunting license in place”.. really? In that sort of scenario, there will no longer be any gummint bucks to pay the doofus to check your license. So he won’t be out there stomping. The new hunting license will be “oh, what a nice buck, and such a clean shot… “BOOM freezer time.
Well said!
Glad I live in Europe, I think it will be a little bit better to live than in the US. But maybe I’m biased in my thinking.
Hunting licences? What a howl! When the SHTF we won’t be need any stinking hunting licences.
Any violation that can get you hauled off to the FEMA camp should be avoided.
I’m afraid war is definitely in the works. The world’s fascist elites will not sit idly by and let one hundred plus years of planning go by the wayside because of what the two communist or ex-communist nations want. They won’t be out foxed. I smell a major crisis in the air.
I have to thank Greg for having Harvey on. He’s one of the best gold and silver analysts on the web. Unfortunately, not as well known as the big named personalities. I have a feeling we’re going to hear more from Mr. Organ.
I tire of the forecasts and temporal predictions despite the fact that I agree completely with the prognostications …. that our current way of life is unsustainable and that it must all come to a catastrophic collapse as all unsustainable and super-linear events do.
It really just comes down to preparing for the worst and hoping for the best regardless of when the singularity event actually occurs.
Thank You Greg for your ongoing effort to present guests with the guts to speak up and provide us mere mortals with an understanding of the truth that is about to break our front doors down.
For some 2 years now I have bee trying to motivate people close to me to shut their TVs and take some time to educate and prepare themselves.
Unfortunately like you Greg most of my family think I am loosing my objectivity and maybe my mind.lol
I continue to try and motivate them to begin at least thinking they need to prepare even if they are in constant disbelief in what I describe.
Slowly, my wife is coming to realize that just MAYBE her husband has not lost his mind and that maybe she needs to yield to his requests that as a family we need to take steps to prepare.
In my view #1 priority in preparation is to GET OUT OF DEBT. if necessary sell your home and pay off all debts.
#2 Convert a significant portion of remaining cash to physical precious metals and hold them outside of the banking system.
#3 Get out of general equities asap.
#4 Never forget to thank the Greg Hunter’s, Jim Sinclair’s and the many others who are dedicating themselves to telling us that we need to prepare.
Good advice Bill…
Hi Greg
I agree with your guest, I think the US gov. is quiet stupid and will do something which will really infuriate China and Russia. And they will demand their gold and silver, and they will talk about how many have and/or how they didn’t get their gold and silver which they purchased.
Similar way of default is when another big player will do what I said.
Another way how can the Western financial system implode is the BRICS countries and their associates will announce one or more commodity baked currency.
Another another way how the Western financial system will implode is when the Saudis say, we will take all other major currencies.
Personally I think it will happen all at once.
So the questions are:
What stupid thing will the US gov. do?
How fast will be the ripple effect after the fall of LBMA, COMEX and New York fall?
My 2 cents
Oracle 911
O911
Must have a false flag for sure, they tried the shoot down, didnt work, they tried rocket attack syria, trying ebola, these people have been nuts since reagan. My first vote was in 8th grade for kenedy, my second vote was reagan, than no more, as celente they are are all in it together.
Thanks for having Harvey on. never seen him before. A well balanced guy, that is reassuring.
Yes, there is a smell in the air – of looming destruction. Harvey seems aware of this. The End game is on, as equity distributon continues before the door slams….
Wonderful Greg,
What a clear set of ideas quickly presented which cut through the mist and get right to what is going on. I’ve seen Harvey’s comments around but never realised he had such a good grasp. Thanks for bringing him into my repertoire of experts, great job for finding him for us.
Thank you Andrew. I hope to have him back.
Greg
If we get to January and these predictions have not panned out I really do hope you have him back to account. However, based on his opinion we should know by early December if things are failing. Over the last two years we have herd many calls for higher prices, and the inevitable collapse of the Dollar….Tic Tock…Tic Tock.
Thanks Greg!
Michael,
NO-ONE has expected this to go on this long. As a kid – I never could seem to wait for the teetering and toppling top to finally run-out of spin and crash. When it comes we all will be worn down.; but hopefully prepared.
Michael;
I see your point, and let me say, Harvey inspires us to be vigilant, on guard. I like that. IMO, our commenters only have to be mostly right, on these predictions, say 85%, and it is still important to me.
People only need to be accurate 10% per year. Thus in 10 years all predictions will occur….
10% x 10 = 100%
And that is the Ugly truth :p
I think by December we will see some definitive movements, but may not the total collapse as they suggest. This is beacuse the establishment will try all the tricks in the book to avert it and thus prolonging it further and making it bigger. My bet will be September 2015. I think almost all the economic collapses has been triggered in that month for some reason in history.
A lot of smart folks have 2015 and a couple in September. A link to the Rabbi (a couple of presentations ago in a USA blog) had Sept-15; Armstrong has a turning point in Sept – 15. Rickards has the USA fiat currency per world trade ending 2015 or 2016; the end of the Kondratieff technology wave in 2015; Add in, for good measure, the blood moons (last one in September – 2015) and a total solar eclipse in parts of Europe next yr … seems to be a confluence of different events/minds pointing to next year. Now, does it start in the end of 2014 and get really bad by Sept 2015 or does it start next year?
Hi Greg this interview was the best interview you have ever done, I watched it from Ireland so there is a 8 hour time difference I watched the interview three times your best work and thank you very much, justin
Thank you Justin.
Greg
Greg,
Ireland weighing in? Did you think I exaggerated when I said “worldwide”? Compared to CNN – numbers, fewer; reach, I’d say the same; credibility – off the charts. Kudos.
You are very kind Charles H. I really liked working at CNN but this is WAAAAY better.
Greg
I also watched this interview twice and also placed it into my favorites and also downloaded it.
This interview must be seen by a lot of people.
I will take some responsibility for that.
interviewing harvey looks to be something like herding cats.
good job.
Hi Greg, keep up the great work !
I just have a comment cause some people can’t wait for gold and silver to move higher and are discouraged. Don’t you find that ironic that some people put money in IRA, 401k, etc and check the performance of their portfolio once every couples of month or once at the end of the year but when it come to gold and silver, they check the price almost every week if not every day ?
I said to my wife this week ”unbelievable, silver’s price hit 17$ !” His answer was ”we need to buy more now !!” We are so happy that the Fed and banks crush the price and offer us a once of a lifetime opportunity to buy more PM at such an incredible discount…
Thank you David!
Greg
Quite interesting.
This explains the sharp jump in Silver sales this week.
What Mr. Organ is saying is supported by current activity.
A precious metal default would be a major problem.
In fact it would be more serious than a stock market correction which I foresee happening.
If this does take place I expect the Fed will be saying that Gold is not money and therefore it is not worried about it.
and a major correction in the prices of gold and silver this week…..
well, at least i see once again how we piss off another country. stealing gold, leasing someone else’s gold or silver. for which i don’t understand the lease thing. it seems to me we are very arrogant and do as we please cause what are you going to do to us. well, well, well. it seems like other countries have been playing chess a lot smarter. and….checkmate! or this has been planned for years by a group of people. my first oh oh was being taken off the gold standard in the first place. big yawn then and again with Breton woods. then lets move factories out of the country. big yawn there to. who cares i’m making money in the stock market. if a country doesn’t produce it doesn’t survive
what scares me is gold and silver may still be at these prices after the collapse. but if you live in say brics it will be at a price close to what harvey talked about. sounds to me it is very possible for it to be illegal.
ol harvey went out on a very thin branch. other than war i will say that our gov’t banks and the godfather, aka fed reserve have become magicians. now it’s a matter of time when the audience aka world discovers which they already have , the fraud and throws there tickets again aka dollars at the stage and walks out. thank your banksters big corps and us the people sleeping.
What will happen to the world economy once this happen? Since everyone of your guest agree that this will happen; Greg you could ask your guest this also.The world has depended on US people to spend like anything with the free credit available; even we would be in for a huge shock once the dollar collapses. Are we all in for prolonged dark days. The biggest problem in the economy is that the majority of consumption is done by West (in all cases) and the majority of production is done by East (include all the off shored manufacturing here). So if the West collapses we all will collapse together.
I am from India and we traditionally are fixated to Gold (mostly as a jewelry, indirectly as something to hold on when bad thing come(especially in southern most state of Kerala from where I come) – People should also understand in India Gold is handed over from generation to generation – which means once we buy we don’t sell unless absolutely necessary). But the problem we will face is that most of us keep our gold in banks in safe deposits. But what will happen once these banks start busting? Will they confiscate these gold which don’t belong to them?
When the West collapse I think China(With its huge manufacturing sector) will have a huge impact. For that reason I believe the next financial super-power could be Russia than China and we may see Rouble as a reserved currency. After all Russia’s major exports are minerals, gas, oil and weapons.
Perhaps, US will start to produce and Chinese will consume.
Great interview. Thanks for having Harvey Organ on. His blog is one of my daily reads. Hope he will be one of your regulars.
Hi Greg,
I think that as long as there is a U.S. military, the world will be keeping the petro dollar.
Countries will do what the U.S. wants in the end because the U.S. carries a big club. If there is a new world order coming in the near future, the U.S. will be the main architect of it. The countries of the world will fall in behind the U.S. for the same reason that we americans pay our taxes. Our military is enormous. One has to combine the next 13 largest militaries in the world to equal ours.
Gregory,
Your point is well taken, with reservations. The US is now defunding the Military, which suggests we are getting closer to other nations rather than pulling-away. Also, Russia and China haven’t shown their hand – YET. Some indications suggest that they have much more sophistication than generally acknowledged. And the real ACE-UP-THE-SLEEVE will be when either or both call the gutless Washington’s bluff. Pushing around small countries is one thing: pulling the trigger on Superpowers is another.
charles; ditto,
Quran (8:12) – “I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them”
KWN
Embry added: “I am really unnerved by the beating of the war drums in the United States. A lead editorial in The Economist attacked Russian President Vladimir Putin in such a one-sided manner that it was laughable. I may not be an admirer of Putin, but the West is really attempting to engage Putin in some sort of military action. Meanwhile, Putin has acted with great patience, even with the West’s continued aggression at his doorstep.
There are some very intelligent people suggesting that we could be headed to a world war as a result of the West’s aggression. I don’t really want to consider that possibility because of the famous quote from Albert Einstein:
“I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but
World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.”
I don’t think people should take Einstein’s warning lightly. So the constant efforts by the West to stir things up on the geopolitical front are a very negative and dangerous development.”
Sadly, it doesn’t matter how big the US military is. God had judged this nation and it falls hard. The USA is Babylon the Great in Rev 13. She was once a nation founded on Christian principles and God blessed her. Not any more for her rulers and people have turned their backs on God. We have a homo president. We have a corrupt Senate and Congress that promotes degeneracy in schools. And the people of this nation love it that way. What happened to God’s chosen people of ancient times when these conditions existed? God allowed her enemies to destroy them.
This great nation who’s founding fathers were devote Christians also now face the same fate. Read Isiah and Revelations. The great USA nation is nowhere to be found in the end times. However Russia and China are mentioned. They are the next great powers that struggle with Isreal in the end. Sad, very sad as this great nation USA was once a beacon of light and hope for the world as her constitution and laws were based on Godly principles of justice and freedom. Not any more!
Martin,
Some thin Babylon is Mecca. I don’t know, but that is one theory. The USA is in trouble though, no question about that.
Greg
Thanks Greg. Yes, I have heard that too about Mecca. However, I have done extensive research on this subject and I am convinced without a doubt America is Babylon the Great. Or more specifically NY city is Great Babylon. If you read the description in Rev 18 about Babylon she is described as a Major International city that sits on a deep sea port. She is a major commercial hub that trades in Gold, Silver, precious stones, fine clothing, luxuries etc. Her merchants grow rich from trade and commerce. The kings of the earth all commit “adultery” with her . ( Where is the UN located? ) Her destruction causes grief and mourning among all the merchants of the earth. Before her destruction she sits high and mighty like a queen among nations. She is envied worldwide because of her riches and wealth. In fact ancient Babylon was once the envy of the ancient world as she was also known for her extreme wealth and influence in the world. When you read this description it matches NY city and by extension America. There are so many other parallels to this that it is not even funny. For eg. ancient Bablylon was also known as the city of tongues because of all the foreigners living within its walls. Doesn’t that describe NY city with its ethnic diversity? Space doesn’t permit me to add more here but there is alot of info on the net you can find for yourself. Just Google America and Babylon and you can read it yourself.
Martin,
I lived in NYC for 10 years. No way to get out in short notice. Tunnels, bridges and boats, oh my!
Greg
Gregory,
Yes I too would have to challenge the assumption of our military’s superiority by the occurrence of three incidents which I can recall right off which largely went unreported in western press (other posters may recall the same incidents with more detail).
The first incident involves a Navy destroyer which had its electronics completely fried by some kind of EMP weapon (I presume) which basically had to be towed back to the states to be scrapped. Another incident involves at least one if not more Russian bomber/ fighters that made multiple passes over one of our Navy ships –totally undetected — until they appeared overhead with “wing tips” basically to just “rub our face in it” as the ” state of the art detection and defense system” was completely neutralized which caused many serving on board to resign their military commissions out of concern over the incident. Thirdly, the threat of the Onyx and Sunburn missile systems which are, to my understanding a full generation ahead of anything we have which have the capability because of their speed and power to literally sink an entire carrier group if deployed. Sorry for not being able to fill in the details or give hard references. Mostly my comment is based on recollection from incidents documented by Dr. Jim Willie in his Hat Trick Letter which I mention in order to give credit where credit is due. If others here could fill in the details that would be helpful. But suffice it to say, I for one no longer believe our military possesses the superiority it once did.
Mark;
well said, we have become arrogant, fools, to think we can take on china and russia, who have been strategizing for yrs, in preparation for this time period.
WOW Greg what a interview. This puts the slow burn on the hot flame.
Harvey Organ I would like to ask will the government confiscate all gold and silver held by the people in the USA ? What would that look like?
It won’t stop it. The rest of the World is pissed and you don’t mess with China or Russia.
US citizens are war weary. Too many see that we are the bully now, not the protector, liberator, defender of freedoms. The people will not let it go that far unless there is some HUGE false flag which is also a very real possibility…
And it is not just war weary Chip, it is the 40 plus percent who are on some kind of govt. subsidy so they can eat along with the unending stream of “immigrants”, the over burdened, debt-laden, stressed-out, brainwashed, over -medicated, under-nourished, faithless and hopeless, which have clouded the moral judgment of so many and neutralized their ability to muster any kind of response because they are too preoccupied or unable to understand what is actually going on today and are just focused on trying to get by for the moment. Just think of hurricane Katrina and the response of those effected as an indication of where we are at today according to my view.
Mark , and Chip. I can envision under martial law a door to door confiscation of gold and silver. All done under the pretense of safety and security. We have all seen stranger.
Mark,
Police know the score. Private citizens will face a sharp learning curve. Is this your page? I worry too.
Charles,
When you ask if this is my “page” I take it to mean you are asking if this is my understanding. Am I correct? As for myself, I would have to say that since I began to learn of the good news of Jesus as the Christ and hence became engaged in fellowship with others who believed (as a young man in the Marine Corps), and consequently amongst the various books and texts available for the study of the Scriptures and biographies etc. I became familiar with such titles as “Fourth Reich of the Rich” by Des Griffin and None Dare Call it Conspiracy by Gary Allen. These weren’t considered “Christian” works per se, and I never did read either of them to completion, but even as a child I do remember having an uncle who was a federal bankruptcy judge speaking of the CFR to my parents and my dad simply saying that the topic was my uncle’s “baby” (I guess kind of like a hobby horse). I say all this as background to say that even with all that I wonder if living where I am and how I live if I won’t suffer the consequences of not having taken the steps to move out of a big city and secure my resources in some remote region. But then again each of us has to choose for themselves and I for one, as you have read from my previous posts have been receiving a lot of help in the clarification and fortification in the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ and His soon appearing. I know this is not a “religious” site per se, but to tell you the truth, it appears more and more to me that we are indeed in the time of His soon appearing, but that does not mean we shall not face difficulty, it does mean that in spite of my shortage in preparing He is more than able to make up for the lack for His help is very real and present and He knows in exact detail and before whatever events unfold the end from the beginning as I do believe you are in agreement as well. I do look for an opportunity to announce and minister to those around us, as the calamity unfolds, the good news of Jesus as the Christ so that they may believe and be saved and regenerated unto a living hope (1Peter). But the hardship may be more than I can bear and so I dare not be too overconfident having been lulled into complacency by the consistent state of relative peace I have been able to enjoy up to this point in my life. Many have commented that we just have not seen the kind of sever conditions which are about to break upon us. So I continue to pray and look to the Lord for wisdom and strength to do the right thing and be a faithful witness and as Greg has begun to say “Fear Not”. The grace and peace of our Lord Jesus Christ be richly with your spirit Charles
Mark,
Thank you for your reply. I did mean – if we were on the same page; and this confirms to me we are.
I am a preacher and missionary – yet I have insured that my wife and myself are both trained, licensed, and armed when back stateside. To carry a firearm means that you must be able to use it; or it can be taken and used against you. I think, as you do, that the Lord may let our downward momentum continue, and that the Rapture may come much farther into chaos than anyone anticipates. I do not relish the possibility of killing anyone with a weapon: but I must maintain the courage and moral stamina necessary to protect the lives of my wife and I.
I have read your comments, and I admire your testimony and witness for Jesus Christ. I assure you that the Lord does not place trials or testing upon his children that exceed our ability to endure them. With the trial or testing the Holy Spirit counsels, guides, or leads – or bestows great Grace. Your expression – of a focus on the Lord for wisdom and strength to do the right thing is the key, and it is in place.
A young, black friend once told me in Boot Camp: “Never borrow sorrow from tomorrow.” His mother was a wise one. And you just keep reading, brother.
Charles,
My wife was in the Marines as well. She had been out of the Corps and working as a medical asst./ x-ray tech when we became acquainted again at a training in Anaheim with brother Witness Lee. That was when we were actively participating in the fellowship of believers in what came to be known as “the Lord’s Recovery” or as some would say “local church” movement. Just a few years later after we were married the Lord called her home. She had melanoma. The entire experience had a profound effect on my life which is the common experience of mankind in this earthly temporal sphere of shadows. (Christ is the reality. Col 2:17). I was helped very much in the understanding of the scriptures from my time with these dear saints and we had the opportunity to meet and fellowship with many whose love and knowledge of the Lord and His word and fellow believers was exceedingly precious. That is not to say everything was right. Even in the teaching of the scriptures there was the widely held view of the partial rapture theory of interpretation. But I digress. Anyway the next major event for me was 911 and what I meant to say in my earlier post is that based on an already emerging awareness that the whole world lies in the evil one, and the inherent corruption associated with privately owned central banking, I knew that something of major significance was taking place, but then since my wife had gone to be with the Lord, (something that was totally unexpected- even though day by day I was “aware” of the diagnosis) I just decided to take some time and work and try to get perspective on everything in order to find a way to proceed. Then as I said, 911 happened and it made me think we don’t have too much more time here in this paradigm with things being the way they are. But that was 13 years ago and still here we are. But He has proven Himself absolutely faithful and I am confident that He is doing, and allowing to happen those things which turn out for good to those who love God and are called according to purpose. He really does have His and our best interest at heart. In fact we, as His creation, are His best interest. Amen I have to go now, the grace and peace of our Lord Jesus Christ be richly with your spirit Charles.amen
Greg, it’s always hard to predict a time table on anything, but it would not surprise me one bit if Mr. Harvey was not right on the money. I hope he is not but it is not an outrageous claim. He is a fine fellow and guest and is just full of knowledge in his field. The house of cards could fall anytime. What a great interview and as always the problem with money (real money) is in having some.
Sambo
Greg, let me correct that money statement, the secret to money is in having some not the problem
Sambo
Awesome interview, Greg! The pieces are lining up and the end of the U.S dollar is nearing it’s end. Greg, the Shemitah year begins September 25th, and it ends on September 13th, 2015. After doing some more research I believe things will begin to get really nasty after the 25th of this month culminating into a complete and total collapse of our banking system by, if not on September 13th of next year. in ’01 and ’08 the biggest hits to our economy fell on the final day of the shemitah year, or 29 Elul which is the exact day of the releasing or collapsing of debt. I told you God gave me an interesting placement in my current job and I have since the beginning of the year felt like it was due to the time we have left in the current status quo. It is coming, no doubt about it.
Hi HTC,
Am I correct based on your comment regarding your present employment and its relationship to the end of this present system of things that you anticipate the change to happen early on say after the 25th of this month or later on more towards the end of next year? All the very best HTC. The grace and peace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with your spirit !
1. If you can get arrested for hunting or fishing without a license, but not for being in the country illegally, you live in a country run by idiots.
2. If you have to get your parents’ permission to go on a field trip or take an aspirin in school, but not to get an abortion, you live in a country run by idiots.
3. If you have to show identification to board an airplane, cash a check, buy liquor or check out a library book, but not to vote on who runs the government, you live in a country run by idiots.
4. If the government wants to ban stable, law-abiding citizens from owning gun magazines with more than ten rounds, but gives 20 F-16 fighter jets to the crazy leaders in Egypt, you live in a country run by idiots.
5. If, in the largest city, you can buy two 16-ounce sodas, but not a 24-ounce soda because 24-ounces of a sugary drink might make you fat, you live in a country run by idiots.
6. If an 80-year-old woman can be stripped searched by the TSA but a woman in a hijab is only subject to having her neck and head searched, you live in a country run by idiots.
7. If your government believes that the best way to eradicate trillions of dollars of debt is to spend trillions more, you live in a country run by idiots.
8. If a seven year old boy can be thrown out of grade school for saying his teacher’s “cute,” but hosting a sexual exploration or diversity class in grade school is perfectly acceptable, you live in a country run by idiots.
9. If hard work and success are met with higher taxes and more government intrusion, while not working is rewarded with EBT cards, WIC checks, Medicaid, subsidized housing and free cell phones, you live in a country run by idiots.
10. If the government’s plan for getting people back to work is to incentivize NOT working, with 99 weeks of unemployment checks and no requirement to prove they applied but can’t find work, you live in a country run by idiots.
11. If being stripped of the ability to defend yourself makes you more “safe” according to the government, you live in a country run by idiots.
Amen Chip. Good one.
It’s not just run by idiots it also inhabited by idiots.
It took an idiot base that keeps electing and then re-electing the same incompetent crooks over and over again to get the US into the irreversible mess it is in today. If any of you really want to know who is responsible for the impending doom just look into the mirror. There’s your answer.
Chip, or you live in a country where those who accept those conditions you cite are idiots. The ones putting those kinds of controls, confusion, and restrictions in place do so to bring about a specific result that allows them to take power and control unto themselves. The real idiots are the supposedly free and self-governing individuals who meekly submit to this kind of absurdity. Great job at exposing the idiocy. Best always. PM
There haven’t been elections anywhere in a long time.
chip
totally agreed!!
Chip,
That was great. Eleven strokes to draw Alfred E. Newman – “What, me worry?”
Really – that was really impressive. Worthy of an Email chain-letter.
You really need to give credit to the original author Chip.
http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2014/09/05/11-ways-to-know-when-you-live-in-a-country-run-by-idiots/
Yea, and if you or I had time we could add another 1,000 plus to your numbers Your thesis is exactly why this country is receding as a world power, I used to like to say instead of “run by idiots” the country has lost its mind but I realize it now its so stupid that it must be intentional.
Yes, this was not my original work, just sharing what I feel is so very true…
Chip-
When you re-post material from someone else, you need to cite the author. This way you can give credit to the person that authored it.
http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2014/09/05/11-ways-to-know-when-you-live-in-a-country-run-by-idiots/
Chip
Yes indeed what a sad commentary these eleven points make!
Given the disastrous bungling of all policy by the NoBrainer regime in trying to run its own country how on earth can they expect to be taken seriously in trying to control the rest of the world as well. They only have but one trump card left in their hand now. Obviously that is the utterly ridiculous size of their military machine.
Sadly this regime dramatically helps much of the rest of the world now to view the US for what it really is :
A LYING, SELFISH, BANKRUPT AND HEGEMONIC BULLY
I will go one step further though.
The pathetic leaders of the US vassal states that blindly follow the narrative and policy churned out by this evil regime, to me, are equally as despicable. Most notable in this category I would include Britain, Germany and Australia.
Cheers
Col
Colin
I think you just miss.the good ole days of.the British Empire. We Americans dont hold a.candle to John Bull
Chip, Dude
ROFLMAO
What great truths
Wonderful list Chip & very true, however the reason why these points are true and the exact opposite of what should be, is because the WHOLE system has been overrun & controlled by Satanists & dark occultists, and believe me, they are FAR from idiots. They know exactly that they’re doing and it’s been working like a charm for a long, long time for them. Remember: Evil only wins, when good people do nothing!!
Greg, if your guest’s timeline is correct even CNBC won’t be able fine a buy signal in it that quick & even Obama won’t be able to milk toast out of troops on foreign ground. After all, the President is already being forced to fire on the “religion of peace”, but maybe he can ask for forgiveness at Friday’s prayers. Frankly, our President is outside his comfort zone and in reality is just an average middle manager with great rhetorical – oratory skills. A nice person, good husband, father & all that, but a very weak leader of our free world.
This was one of your best interviews (especially considering how currently the U.S. dollar is spiking upwards vs. other currencies and gold). I don’t know what lies on the other side of this ‘reset’ or ‘collapse’, but I have never seen anything like this in my entire life (60+ years old). Keep stacking and maintain your health! God speed, Greg.
Hi Greg,
Great Interview and very informative! I wonder though if China can keep their silver market fluid through their own mining. Last time I looked China was #3 world’s silver producer and #1 in Gold. I look forward to the “FREE Market’s”.
Who says the markets will be free if/when China and Russia are calling the shots? Are these guys known for playing by the rules? In fact, I expect otherwise. You hear all about American hegemony these days. Well, put China and Russia in on top, and you haven’t seen anything. Best always. PM
I agree with you Paul. One need only look at how the Chinese have under valued their currency to keep their export growth in double digits to know they won’t be playing fair in their market pricing.
Greg,
Masterful job of staying “on point” with questions. Along with Kirby and Willie, Organ is in my Top 3.
Man- did he go out there and put all chips in when he stated the end of year prices, etc. Wheww…
My key takeaways:
– Au driven by the need for Monetary backing per China/Russia and no more to obtain to satiate demand. COMEX defaults.
– Ag driven by industrial consumption run rates supported by Shangai which is due to run out. Again COMEX defualt there also.
*BUT as long as China can still get, it won’t “upset the applecart”, but once it can’t- time to expose the man behind the curtain….wow. Historical stuff.
Again, excellent, excellent interview.
Regards
Bruce/Tampa
Thank you Au for the kind words. Mr. Organ is a very smart guy.
Greg
He sure did put all his chips on the table … and we will see by January if he is right.
Funny thing that, we humans seem to stand in awe of those who make the most outrageous predictions, usually based on only partial information. That’s really what is at the heart of the issue, for all these folks on the fringe are trying to piece together what is really going on, but they don’t know as they just don’t have access or insider information. Causation is the hardest of all disciplines to master, as it involves abductive reasoning which is the most uncertain of all logical disciplines.
This makes me very suspicious and at times a bit cynical … as this will not be the first time some fringe dweller has made a time related prediction … only to be humiliated later on when more information comes to hand. No doubt, at that time some new prediction will be made that necessitated a postponement.
Nevertheless, ‘the end shall be at the appointed time’.
What an absolutely astounding interview Greg. Harvey Organ has zeroed in on exactly what is holding up the three legged economic stool that we find ourselves sitting on.
1. Gold – to back investments
2. Energy – gas to fuel industrial engines
3. Technology – to transfer information
China has the Gold. Russia has the energy. And when they complete the third leg of the stool, electronic exchange trade platforms (which their close) its over.
Greg the war in Ukraine, and Syria was more about blocking the transfer of Gas resources to China by the western cabal, than protecting Ukraine’s freedom. The cabal knew they couldn’t stop the Chinese from buying gold, so they decided to block the energy transfer from Russia instead.
Even though it has not been reported by the MSM, the war in Ukraine is for all intensive purposes over. Ukraine lost over two battalions of infantry, and almost that much in heavy armor. That’s why NATO was pushing so hard for a ceasefire. They really had no other choice. The economic sanctions imposed on Russia were nothing more than a photo opportunity for the western MSM and nothing more. Russia will be mopping up what is left of the Ukrainian army over the next two months, and then it will be over.
Harvey’s prediction of December is just about right. That is unless the western cabal pulls a false flag event in the meantime to stall it.
I was just saying……
http://rt.com/op-edge/185512-ukraine-lost-donbas-nato/
Have you noticed there’s no more talk about the jet liner that was shot down over Ukraine a few months ago? I guess it served its purpose for the cabal and they’ve moved on to other important things, namely using ISIS as a reason to go back into Syria. What a nightmare!
Who saw this coming?
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/article/will-russia-shut-off-the-taps-traders-bet-on-gas-prices-as-winter-nears/506733.html
Jerry, i think your false flag call has serious merit. They (US Gov and or Fed) are not going to allow themselves to be blamed for this. They will point at something…
False flag has begun. Our president said he will search out to destroy black ghost living in no mans land. All done from the sky ? Sounds like the perfect prescription for a false flag.
Jerry,
I came across two items about Russia, the sanctions and its military might…should be a must read/view.
1) Fabian Calvo had a fantastic 8 minute talk on the failure of the Russian sanctions and why they are even being sanctioned to begin with. Jerry this dives into the pure psycho-pathy of those driving the sanctions even as peace is being discussed
2) Martin Armstrong wrote a great peace on Russian strength, and Putin’s buid up of a private-blackwater like army to be fully implemented in a few years. Jerry Martin is saying that Russia is much stronger militarily and economically than is being reported.
He said US/NATO bieng foolish in thinking otherwise. ALso he talks about how Putin is buiding a private army, like blackwater but with more power and autonomy, and heplans to make it a much bigger percentage of the russian military in the next few years.
Martin goes on to say the west is grossly and dangerously underestimating this man.
Survival Gear – Supplements.
So you just went from eating Papa Johns Pizza, to bowls of rice and beans. No problem right? Wrong. The fact is without some type of supplement, your immune system is going to go into survival mode, and cause you major problems. The partial solution. Vitamins.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Centrum-Silver-Multivitamin-Multimineral-Supplement-Tablets-220-count/23599936?action=product_interest&action_type=title&placement_id=irs_middle&strategy=PWVUB&visitor_id=89440461627&category=0%3A976760%3A1005863%3A1091367&client_guid=0c5bfbfd-b1ea-406a-b224-431c31184fb3&config_id=0&parent_item_id=14711336&guid=f4f37229-741f-4155-87a6-be7e437dcf8f&bucket_id=irsbucketdefault&findingMethod=p13n
Stock up on some cheap vitamins, store them in a proper place, about 1,500 should do per person in household. Cheap vitamins will keep you alive and pretty well. You can always trade some as well to people feeling ill for some can goods or whatever. Top Ramon is cheap, last forever, that and a couple of vitamins will keep you ticking until times get better. Also, span is high in fat, will last almost indefinitely, cheap & goes good out of the can with Top Ramon. Sounds kind of crazy doesn’t it as you eat down the street at your favorite restaurant. But in hard times Ramon & Spam will take like a nice dinner out, especially when others out there are starving.
Art
I like spam. Its a poor mans steak.
Jerry;
short survival tip video
http://prepperchimp.com/2014/09/09/45-survival-tips-for-when-shtf-video/
Cut a tree vine, attach a bottle to the end. in a few hours you have good clean drinkable water.
I agree. Makes perfect sense. Great job, Harv.
Look out, you better duck, here comes the flying doctor! – Hawkwind 1979
Here is what the Shanghai Gold Exchange growth looks like:
https://smaulgld.com/rise-shanghai-gold-exchange/
and check the links at the bottom that backs what Harvey is saying.
Who are the buyers on the SGE?
Are China’s Au imports going directly to buyers on the SGE?
Is China in greater danger of default due to the required deliveries on the SGE?
The SGE is delivering nearly 7,000 tons of Au this year. How is this possible without significant Au imports from the West?
Or are there large numbers of the same metals moving back and forth month to month?
Maybe I just don’t understand the SGE.
Hey Grey thanks for a great interview. Been reading Mr Organ for several years and admire his dedication to the cause. He really stuck out his neck and made some tough predictions. I have been following the Ag situation in Shanghi and agree Harveys analysis is highly plausible. If he is even 25% right on the pricing predictions well that would be great. It was great PM Porn so I had to watch it 2x…..
BTW I also watched your interview with Mr. Holter where you made the comment several times on PM Mint Demand being below last years. I don’t feel that is necessarily totally correct. From SRSROCCO. Silver Maples 10% ABOVE last year. Also total silver imports are still going crazy. I know alot of folks are buying alot more generic rounds than before do to the discounts. Thanks much for all your work
http://srsroccoreport.com/surprising-update-candian-silver-maple-sales-stronger-than-last-year/surprising-update-candian-silver-maple-sales-stronger-than-last-year/
Greg,
Heres what a dem says about moderate moslem terrorists.
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/melanie-hunter/dem-congressman-forces-will-rise-if-isis-destroyed-are-nearly-evil-isis
Rep. Brad Sherman (D-Ca.), a senior member of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, warned Tuesday that destroying ISIS would only empower those fighting against the terrorist group – who are almost as evil as ISIS.
“If you destroy one power in the Middle East, you empower the other side, and the four groups that are fighting ISIS now are in many ways nearly as evil as ISIS itself, and in fact, those who are fighting against ISIS today on the ground have killed far more Americans than ISIS has,” said Sherman, top Democrat on the Terrorism, Nonproliferation and Trade Subcommittee.
Dont worry…be happy. 0bama will save us, right up until he sacrifices us to his evil god
500, interesting point about Obama and his god (notice the small g). I do believe that the President has strong Muslim feelings, he may even be a closet Muslim. His Rev. Wright black theology which was just political in practice and not religious doesn’t change his early upbringing in the Mosque’s of Indonesia and North Africa.
Art
Only a fool and by that I mean President 0bama, would say that the Islamic State has nothing to do with Islam. And only a fool would call Islam a religion of peace.
Greg, you should have Dr. Paul Craig Roberts talk about the Wolfowitz Doctrine and the
mission statement and history of the Council on Foreign Relations. It ties everything
we are seeing from Washington together.
They already defaulted on silver delivery, listen again. China is already pissed.
Hi Greg, Always like hearing Harvey. Noticed Japan and EU at Neg Interest rates. The US seems slightly higher. Is this just another move to allow the bsnksters to run their carry trade scam again?
Please have Harvey Organ back as a guest at the end November and December, I will be interested to see how you “Slap” him down when his prediction(s) don’t come true. Also, then you can have me as a guest, my prediction(s) are: (1) China will never back it’s yuan with gold. China is only getting rid of it’s fiat currency for something that the whole world will take in any form. Also, they know, ( Worthless countrys, like France, will come to their door with yuan and want gold, like they did when the U.S. The problem, at that time, the U.S. problably gave them those dollars to began with. (2) the U.S. might have China’s “Silver”, it’s only going to get fiat U.S. dollars back. (3) all nations that have gold stored in the U.S, should demand it back at once. That way, “IF” they star to a war, ( Germany is good for that.) and you lose, you lose your gold. Actually, Germany should not if any gold in my opinion. (4) They say, gold runs in twenty year cyles,wel this time it was 20 loss, 12 gain, and now we have 17 years for the talking heads to talk it back up.
Greg, Great interview with Harvey, brilliant guy. Please have him on more often.
Wow… what an surprise interview. I have followed Harvey’s Blog daily for some time now and it was a pleasure seeing and hearing him interviewed on USA Watchdog. Harvey comes across to me as the backroom scientist that really knows what’s going on. He is a numbers man as evidenced by his blog. You were able to provide focus for the interview. My feeling is that Harvey is to metals, as what Eric Snowden is to NSA. he is not a professional speaker and you were able to “laser” him in on “when”. I suspect that you will get lots of reaction from this interview. The interesting thing here is that unlike a lot of other speakers that you have had, Harvey does not have direct ties to gold retailers and and gold miners. The conflicting interest is not there. If Harvey is right, we are in for a very bumpy rest of the year. This is one interview that I will have to listen to more than once. Greg, thanks for a surprising great interview that only you can do.
Interesting guest Greg. For about a year and a half I read Harvey Organ’s Blogspot on a nearly daily basis, but I have never seen him on video. He is knowledgeable enough and he has the fundamentals down, but he is a perma-bull when it comes to gold. I think he is what trader Dan Norcini would call one of the GIAMATT (Gold IS Always Manipulated All of The Time). Maybe it is an idea to ask if Dan Norcini will come onto USAWatchdog [but IMHO not before you have interviewed Edward Griffin 🙂 of course] to explain his view.
For me, I couldn’t take it anymore to keep reading and reading about perma-bull gold literature on Harvey’s site when the price kept falling and falling for more than a year. I have the same critique on Harvey Organ as on Craig Hemke/Turd Ferguson. By the way, not coincidentally perhaps, Turd Ferguson used to refer to Harvey Organ’s site and that is how I got to know Harvey Organ in the first place. That said, I still take pieces of information what Harvey Organ said seriously. I possibly will take possession shortly of the remaining pieces of yellow metal that I planned to buy. Harvey may have contributed to me speeding that up. And I still occasionally check his site.
Finally, I want to give a well-deserved compliment to Greg in being very clear in asking the When-question. And I want to compliment Harvey Organ for sticking his neck out and actually giving a clear definite answer to Greg’s question because not a lot of people have the guts to do so.
So, that means that 1 january 2015 or not much time thereafter Greg can interview Harvey again and we can see if Harvey’s predictions came true. One way or the other, for that reason, I would definitely like to see him on shortly after 1 january 2015.
If Organ’s predictions, or any of the others we hear routinely, even Biblical, come “true”, meaning they are accurate, Greg won’t be in a position to be interviewing anybody, and we won’t care about how “true” or “accurate” they are, as we will be in a fight for our lives, everywhere and all the time. Get real, people. If even half the stuff we are contemplating goes down, your life as you know it will abruptly end, and all of us will be in a place we never even dreamed of. Best always. PM
I think you are correct. But does that mean that a) you should not take these predictions too seriously or does that mean that b) you should speed up your preparations rapidly?
Paul F I.
totally agree.
Paul M. Well said brother Well said.
Amen to that brother!
Trader Dan does a great job of keeping balance and perspective from a traders view. I also get tired of the perma bulls like those you mentioned above, with only one perspective or sales pitch.
Greg if possible you should have Dan on.
Just look at a recent article he did on Gold and the Dollar.
http://traderdannorcini.blogspot.ca/2014/09/strong-us-dollar-pressuring-gold.html
I agree with you 100% brother!!!!!
There are two things I want to add to my comment:
1) There is one major difference between Harvey Organ and Craig Hemke/Turd Ferguson I would like to point out, and that difference is in Harvey Organ’s favor. Harvey Organ doesn’t sell you his product whereas Turd Ferguson does sell you his subscription and other products. While Ferguson is right on the fundamentals in my view, he is in the same category as James Turk and Eric Sprott who have an interest in selling you their products: namely gold and brokerage-services respectively. Harvey Organ could be right or he could be wrong but at least he is not making money by talking his own book, in contrast to Turd Ferguson.
On the other hand, I get that if you believe in something, that something is what you can end up doing professionally, and can then you can end up charging people for your services. I also get that if you pay nothing for information, some people say that it is worth nothing (at least if you want to trade or invest on it). The latter is not always and only partially true in my opinion.
The only thing I am trying to caution people about is to keep out a sharp eye on what the motivation/interest of a person is when he relays information to you.
2) Bringing trader Dan Norcini on USAWatchdog could bring the necessary balance to the sentiment of the GIAMATT-crowd as Dan Norcini likes to call the perma-gold-bulls, but that doesn’t make Dan Norcini right per se. Dan Norcini has integrity and lots and lots of experience, but paraphrasing Doug Casey: “Trading in this environment is like picking up nickles before a steam-roller. You might make some change, but you will get squashed eventually.” So who knows what is true?
I don’t know what the truth is with certainty, but at least I am trying to be open-minded and critical at the same time when I am doing my own due diligence in examining sources. Trying to falsify, not verify one’s beliefs also helps in getting to the truth. That is all I can do.
A great interview and ,Greg, I appreciate how you tried to clarify what this man was saying. Thank you for introducing us to this guest. Peace.
Hi greg
Kinda interesting interview with this guy, I must admit that I have heard his name mentioned before but do not really know much about his work. A quick youtube search and it seems august 2012 he was saying exactly the same thing ‘when London is out comex will default in a nanosecond’. I guess he probably will be proven right when it does happen which it surely will at some time. However, silver has dropped nearly 50% since then and two years have passed, so I am intrigued as to his adamant stance that we will see 10-12k gold, 200 silver and 50usd index within the next 100 days. Does he have anything to gain from spreading this type of information? Affiliations, newsletters,selling metals etc. Look I really hope he is right, I have a lot of skin the game but I am not sure how serious to take HO’s message??…..
All the best from the uk..
Where have you folks been? Theodore Butler and Izzy Friedman have been on top of this issue for more years than I can remember. This guy is a “late comer ” compared to Ted Butler. If you want some serious in -depth info on the silver market manipulation, and chairman Gary Gensler’s criminal inaction against the large banks selling short, see Ted’s web site.
1999 qualifies as a late comer? You mean when gold was $200 an ounce?
Gregg, I have been looking at Harvey Organ’s website for years. Harvey is a cool guy and donates his time to manage this site. However, there is no way that Harvey can definitively be so sure of the price targets he is predicting or the events he is predicting. Harvey is just going to make himself look silly and rediculous over this when his prediction does not happen. That’s a shame because he has been working in this realm for so long and he is putting it all on the line to make these kinds of predictions. What he is talking about may eventually happen but we cannot know the timing of the actual event itself and it could be many more years in the making. I hope he’s right. And, if he is wrong, I will just view him as a crazy old man. Many in the business already view him in this light. He is right in line with the imaginative rantings of Bix Weir. And, Bix is out there. Lost in Space.
For those of you who follow Karen Hudes, I have this for you.
http://2012thebigpicture.wordpress.com/2014/03/13/karen-hudes-whistle-blower-or-deceiver/
Jerry, you posted this just to gig me, didn’t you? HAHA. Best always. PM
greg;
last 5 minutes, spellbinding, glad I started yrs ago to get er done.
this article just popped up;
Too Bad No One Has Proven 9/11 Was An Inside Job In A Court Of Law
by Chris Ernesto, RINF:
If only it had been proven that 9/11 was an inside job. Maybe then it would be easier for Americans today to believe that their government is supporting neo-Nazis in Ukraine, and was on the same side as ISIS in Syria (before declaring them enemy No. 1.)
The US government probably couldn’t get away with its current bombing campaigns inside Iraq, Pakistan, Somalia, Afghanistan and Yemen if it had been shown that it was the US, not “Muslim terrorists” who blew up the Twin Towers.
Maybe a new war inside Syria could be averted if the American media and people were skeptical of any claims made by the US government if previously it had been proven that the Bush administration lied about who was responsible for the 9/11 attacks.
http://sgtreport.com/2014/09/too-bad-no-one-has-proven-911-was-an-inside-job-in-a-court-of-law/
Stick a fork in us we are done. Harvey builds the most logical case for the end of the dollar and the rise of gold. We did it to our selves and we have nobody else to blame. I am ready to face the new world . Amen!
Amen.
Thanks so much Greg for all you do and all the guests you bring on your website. Looking at all the news could leave us all without hope, but I want to encourage each of us with this: There are many intercessor groups all around the world praying for the USA and all the nations. One group, World for Jesus Ministries, seems to be in the “know” of the current issues. Please take a moment and look on their medialog for more information and audio-teachings. http://www.worldforjesus.org/medialog.php
Wow Greg, what a really interesting guest! It was a special treat to see and listen to Harvey with my morning bowl of cereal. Thanks for introducing him to us.
I’m not as confident as Harvey that this long-term gold and silver criminal charade will finally start coming unraveled by December 2014. I’ve been waiting patiently since 1999, so I don’t like getting my hopes up. But then again, at some point all of these lies and market distortions will have to eventually come to an end. It simply must!
I think that all of this gold and silver manipulation is inversely related into puffing up the relevancy of the U.S. paper petro-dollar; they both must happen simultaneously to give the illusion that America is still in charge of the “free” world. (Incidentally, the U.S. Dollar has been soaring this week as the paper dollar has been falling.) But the American empire and its current emperor (like many of his predecessors) are totally naked with only a paper fig dollar to hide behind, from its public disgrace and nudity. This cannot last, as America is likely to have no gold or even a viable engine of productive economic growth. Does it even have the moral authority to continue dictating commands to the rest of the world when it lies over and over again about almost everything it does from quantitative easing to shadow warfare across the globe? What’s happening to our freedoms as Americans?
Sadly, there is a new world order that is being formed that will change the political, spiritual, and economic landscape of the world– for the worse. None of this would have even been possible if our own country was not instrumental in destroying our Constitution, our Christian culture, and our currency that at one time consisted of both silver coin and gold-backed dollars. All of this has all been frittered away over the decades.
China has smartly played this duplicitous game of gold and silver price suppression in order to acquire more precious metals, along with Russia and the rest of the East. As Harvey calculates, there cannot be much more time left before the East decides to pull the plug on the dollar, unless they need a little more time to convert more of their dollar holdings into more farmland, factories, and real physical natural resources. Maybe it’s not necessary as they control enough pieces on the chessboard already.
Our American puppet-masters must know the jig will be up soon. So I wonder what new plans they have in store for the American people? Besides impoverishing America into a large third-world Ebola-infected continent merged with Mexico, do they have plans to provoke China and Russia into nuking our American cities to hide their many crimes and bring about the new world they envision? False flags anyone? It’s a mistake to assume that all of the sins and deceptions that are being inflicted upon Americans and the world will quickly come to an end when the dollar ceases to exist, as America still has an arsenal of exotic weapons that go way beyond paper and digital currency warfare. Will these weapons be used to defend what’s left of America, or will they be transferred to the new world regime along with the installation of a new world reserve currency.
Whatever happens, my confidence has been permanently shaken by whatever Washington does or does not do. I am no longer that innocent little boy who used to watch the Lone Ranger and John Wayne movies with naive excitement, as I don’t think that the same wonderful country still exists any longer (if it ever did), certainly not in Washington or in the expansion of the government Leviathan.
We must continue praying unceasingly for God’s mercy on America. God’s will must be done, but we also fight the good fight and somehow FEAR NOT through it all!
John M,
I usually skim long comments – but went back to read every word you wrote carefully. Few grasp the breadth of what lies ahead; or what has been lost in the past. Grat summary with good insights. I have to agree almost totally.
Greg –
Good guest as always here. Just had one concern though… I thought you spent too much time trying to pigeonhole Mr. Organ on the time frame… asking over and over why this year. In fact, he explained the scenario where I could see what he was alluding too, but you seemed to not hear and went back to that same question of when and he had to repeat what he had said, or say it in another way and I think he was getting flustered a bit by having to do that.
In this game there are no absolutes… only approximations unless something is rigged to implode by a mechanism from the insiders and powers that be. Just as Peter Schiff and Nuriel Roubini knew the housing bubble was destined to collapse in 2006 months before it happened, no one could really say exactly when Bear Stearns would go down… even just three days after the famous Jim Cramer ‘Dont sell Bear Stearns’ fiasco.
China recently brought in three new bullion banks to sell gold in Shanghai, including one unprecedented foreign bank. And with China about 95% assured they own all the longs on the Comex, and London getting out of the Silver Fix game (because they knew the jig was up?), the ONLY thing we should watch and wait for is when Shanghai and Hong Kong are ready to declare THEY are the arbiters of price discovery, which is most likely to occur before the end of the year.
And is why the US is running full monty the war drums… to mask to the public the collapse that is to come and overwhelm them with a foreign conflict.
Keep up the good work!
Ken
Correction: (the paper dollar has been soaring this week while the paper gold and silver prices have been falling) . Doesn’t matter anyway, they are not to be believed.
Hi Greg:
Hands DOWN this was your best interview yet. Your dogged persistence in asking every single guest “When?” has paid off big time. Finally! Someone who is willing to tell us “when” but not as a guess or a view into a crystal ball – not at all – but as a point in fact based on the actual supplies of precious metals. The Shanghai Exchange has two months of gold and silver left. Period. There’s no arguing with that and neither the LBMA nor the Fed nor GLD or SLV has any gold or silver at all to make up the demand. They’ve stolen everyone else’s gold and leased it! I am SO glad you had Mr. Organ on. We have something to hang onto instead of this constant nagging feeling “Is it today? Does it all fall apart today?” I am so looking forward to reading the “Must Reads” on his blog and to reading Steve D’Angelo’s report when it comes out next week which will show the US has been exporting other countries’ gold – confirming that the US HAS NO GOLD.Well done YOU!
Actually, I think it must Steve St. Angelo (not D’Angelo) of Financial Sense.
http://www.financialsense.com/contributors/steve-st-angelo
Seems to me like these projections are hard to believe as I watch PM prices drop lower and lower. Even harder to believe is that the auditors of GLD and SLV stockpiles are lying about physical holdings. This is not credible to me. I also think they can keep the prices down longer than we think possible.
Joe,
So it’s not credible just because you say it’s not credible. You ignore the facts and analysis? Just have a gut feeling?
Greg
I didn’t hear much in the way of factual evidence that GLD and SLV vault auditors are falsifying records and both funds have actually 0 ounces. This is also just a gut feeling from Harvey, so what we are discussing here are each others gut feelings on opinions based on some assumptions about physical holdings in China and Russia which are also not based on factual evidence. No real evidence was presented for these “charges”. I’m not saying it may not be true, but just very hard for me to believe this statement and makes me question everything else. Since I also am accumulating gold and silver, I would love for these projections to be true but please excuse my skepticism for now because I’m also long on these metals and think they will eventually turn up. I certainly hope so since I’m seeing more red even today.
Joe, Dude, so you think with paper and majic a mining.company.can.sell.gold and.silver.below the.cost.to.mine it? I had someone try to.explain how they can hedge their positions but.its laughable to think that you can sell enough at.the.right.price.to.operate a mine at a lose. Especially after.reviewing their.financial statements, which I have two.degrees and a minor.in who.to..compile, interpret and dectect.fraud.
PMs are being.manipulated just.like.LIBOR, oh, and.F/X, oh, and those dark.pools that.the brokers use to.screw the.common man out.of his 401k….but.in the.face.of all.this, you.FEEL its.wrong. Dude, feelings are for making love, facts are what you.use.to make.decisions
G5,
“Feelings are for making love, facts are what you use to make decisions.”
Priceless.
The sobering thought to keep here is that once the currency collapses the society that depends upon it collapses as well–spending my silver and gold will not be fun, it will not be fun at all…odds are I will be forced to give most of it away at gunpoint as will anyone holding ANYTHING of value be forced to contend with. Tons and tons of unprepared idiots will be doing what idiots do best, stealing, starving and forcing the government to crack down on everyone.
Thank you brother. I just wish all Greg Hunters listeners would spend just a moment to examine what you wrote.
Yes, I read it and what he wrote is a mis-interpreted bunch of hokum. The theme of the Bible is all about the Revealing of Christ and his work. Matthew 24 and Luke 21 are all short summaries of the Book of Revelation. The book of Revelation is about the transition from the Old Covenent that God had with his chosen people Israel to the New and improved covenant that God has with his chosen thru Christ. In other words, God divorced his bride Israel and married the new bride of the true believing-in Christ Church. Revelation is all about Gods covenant lawsuit against Israel for their apostasy in not recognizing the Messiah. The kingdom was taken away from them and given to Church. It was all completed in AD70….
Therefore, quit scaring people with this doomsday end of the world crap. The Bible is very clear on having sound money (sound weights and measures), not stealing from people, nor defrauding them, and penalizing those that do with appropriate consequences…The financial world will reset to a more sound system. The end of history (our current time-space continuum) will not occur until the second coming of Christ and then it will be too late to care about this financial stuff…
Lol… Preterists and their heretical theology. Brando, Christ did not divorce Israel, and the great tribulation did not occur in 70 ad. To believe that refutes the bodily resurrection of those who are dead in Christ shall be raised first. Jesus return will be seen by the entire world, for he will return in the flesh in the same manner he ascended to heaven. He will come on the clouds and every eye shall see, just as the lightning flashes across the sky from the east to the west. Preterism is a heresy and a lie of Satan to attempt to blind Christ’s bride from the future coming bridegroom. Please search the scripture and allow the holy spirit to lead you into all truth and understanding.
I agree with you that preterism is heretical. Please re-read my response above. I do believe there is a future coming of Christ. Preterists believe Christ returned in AD70…
Greg, I mis read Brando post and responded incorrectly. The fact still remains that God did not divorce Israel, some branches were broken off so that the gentiles could be grafted in.he allowed us to enter into their covenant by means of Israel’s disbelief. This does not mean that God abandoned Israel his chosen nation in 70 ad with the temple destruction. God promised that they would be once again restored at a future time, which has been fulfilled. The great tribulation will happen and when it does I pray God opens his eyes to the truth.
First of all, the Temple in the Old Testament was the center of Israel’s existence. It pointed to the future Messiah Christ. The animal blood sacrifices, the ceremonial law, the Temple itself were mere shadows of Christ that were fulfilled with the real coming of Christ. Individuals that were obedient to all that was required of them were, for lack of a better term, “Old Testament Christians”, in other words, they believed in and looked forward to the coming of the Christ Messiah. The Old Testament is not primarily about Israel, it is about Christ, the coming Christ. The whole existence of Old Testament Israel was to bring forth the Messiah for the world.
Second of all, the last two-thirds of Deuteronomy 28 outlines the curses for disobedience. Israel disobeyed by not recognizing the Messiah. Verses 49 to 57 describe AD70, the sacking of Israel by Rome. For detail on the gruesome verses 55-57 please read Josephus’ War of the Antiquities on the Roman siege of Jerusalem…
Third of all, pre-mil dispensationalists deny that Christ’s Kingdom is not definitively established. It was established in AD70, the sign of that being the Roman army destroying the old covenant physical remnants.
Christ’s kingdom on earth is comprised of the believers in Christ, the new Temple….
Brando4,
My take on the Temple in Jerusalem was that it was as much a mistake to super-cede the Tabernacle in the Wilderness (for the richness of the symbology involved in God’s direction of construction and material – as it was for Israel to want to have a king, instead of the prophets and judges. The Temple was an accommodation to man – an edifice, a place built “for a place for Thy holy name”. 1Chron.17:1-15 gives the account of God making this concession to King David. Apparently, this “house” which God accepts as a future throne and kingdom (vs.14) was not originally purposed to be a “temple” for sacrificial services – but segwayed as a provision; seeing with this decree, the Old Testament sacrifices were declared to be done-away with (defacto ended with the temple destruction). The Mat.21:13 reference Jesus Christ makes, casting-out the money-changers in the temple, shows “My house…house of prayer..” I concur that the Old Testament was to bring forth the Messiah of the Jews (they just don’t recognize it yet) and Savior of Man. But to assign Old Testament “saints” as “Old Testament Christians” is a stretch and confusion. Those who were held in Abraham’s Bosom – died in their faith: not because “they were obedient to all that was required of them” because the Law justified nobody. Abraham’s Bosom proves that Grace was operative even in the Old Testament: the same Grace by which New Testament believers are saved.
Your second point of the curses on Israel from Deut. 28 – is answered in Romans 11:25. God sovereignly blinded the nation so that we could be grafted into the commonwealth of Israel. Some are ignorant of this mystery – covered in the verse itself.
I’m Pre-millenial – but consider that when God pronounced His Kingdom through Christ: it was done – way back from good old Samuel. Christ’s kingdom on earth will be ruling and reigning from Jerusalem with a rod of iron during the Millennium. True believers are His bride and comprise His Church: NOT His kingdom. To subtly suggest by this word substitution : is the same as saying – ” yea, hath God said…”
Brando4,
“Replacement Theology”, in whatever form is not workable. Can Jews be saved? They certainly CAN; and there is ample evidence that this happens. The New Testament Dispensation of Grace opens Salvation to the whole world. Salvation belongeth to the Jew first; then the Gentiles. To suggest that God is done with Israel, or the Jew, is as absurd as just tearing the Old Testament out of the Bible. The “sure mercies of David” are yet to be realized; promises to Israel God will NOT fail to fulfill. WHY will Jesus Christ re-establish the Throne of David in Jerusalem during the Millennial Reign? Shouldn’t Scripture say :”Throne of the Church”?!?? Who knows the mind of God? Not man.
I view ANY argument that suggests that God is done and through with the “Jew”, or Israel – as “anti-semitism light”. It is better to be on the side that blesses the Seed of Abraham.
Since you like labels, let me comment about replacement theology. As commented above, believers in the promise of a coming Messiah in the Old Testament were saved from the wrath of God just as believers in the New Testament Messiah are saved from God’s wrath. It is all about CHRIST!!! The “Church” or community of believers in Christ or whatever you want to call it ranges from Genesis to Revelation. Jews can be saved as individuals just as any other non-believer can and we all know Jews that have come to Christ. Countries are not saved, only individuals.
The Israel of today is not the Israel of the Old Testament. As mentioned, the heart of Old Testament Israel was the Temple. The Temple that, in all its detail, pointed to a future Christ. After Christ came, the physical Temple, the heart of Old Testament Israel, was destroyed by God, through the Roman army. Since they no longer had a land or a Temple, the surviving Jews took the rabbinical law of the Talmud and devised a new works based religion that Israel and Jews around the world try to follow. (It is hard to keep all those laws). Instead of the belief system of the Old Testament, Judaism is primarily ethnic and racial in nature. The nation of Israel is no different than the nation of Sweden, or France or Saudi Arabia. It is a country with it’s own cultural and religious belief system. (In the U.S. the true national religion is NFL Football and shopping) The fact that pre-mil dispensationists want a third Temple to be built in Israel is the height of heresy. Christ is here now!!!! He doesn’t need a physical building with a blood sacrificial system to tell us he is coming.
Lastly, since all the birth records were destroyed in AD70 there is no way to trace the genealogical seed of Abraham. The true Seed of Abraham in both the Old and New Testament are believers in Christ.
Brando4,
God Himself gave to Abraham and his seed a direct and specific promise – irrevocable: to the physical, blood-lineage of that man. Nothing changes this: not lands, wars, records, or buildings. The Jew is a FAMILY; and Israel, the nation of that family. You are arguing semantics and interjecting confusion. We are the children of God through Faith; but we do not become Jews because of it. Jew may be saved: but they never cease being Jews. Both cannot be equated – as you consistently seem to assert, in your last line. To assert that the nation of Israel is no different from Sweden, or France, or Saudi Arabia belies a discounting, or a will-full ignorance of a very significant and special characteristic bestowed by God.
You say: “The heart of Old Testament Israel was the temple.” Perhaps so – but this was misplaced; and does not reflect upon God, or His purposes in the fulfillment of His promises. I view the heart of the Old Testament was the Word of God that proceeded toward His People through the Patriarchs and prophets promises and Covenants: yet to be fulfilled and independent from the New Testament dispensation of Grace. God the Father, the First Person of the godhead, and Jesus Christ the Lord, the Second Person of the godhead are in Heaven: it is the Holy Spirit, the Third Person of the Godhead that is ‘here now’. And you are wrong about the Pre-millenialists wanting the Third Temple to be built: they know it is as wrong as you think it is.
Again, you are arguing semantics – and God’s kingdom is not comprised of Believers: God has NOT put away His Chosen people, the Jew; and arguing until you are blue in the face will not change the lie into truth.
Harvey, in 2012, stated for the record that the manipulation will end “soon.” Here 2 years there after, he is saying that it will end in a few months. How credible is Harvey???
John,
Really? Back that up.
Greg
This may help John’s claim.
Quoting this interview from 2012 with Chris Martenson.
“In this detailed interview, Harvey explains to Chris the mechanics how of he sees this manipulation occurring, why he predicts this fraudulent pricing scheme will collapse soon, and why it’s critical to be holding physical (vs paper) bullion when it does.”
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/chris-martenson-and-harvey-organ-get-physical-gold-silver
Correct me if I am wrong but I think it’s also worth mentioning.
Harvey in your interview is claiming now that China has been the “Long” on Comex when year after year he claimed they were the “Short”
Harvey Organ: China is the Short Behind Gold & Silver Manipulation
Posted on December 28, 2012 by The Doc
http://www.silverdoctors.com/harvey-organ-china-behind-gold-silver-manipulation/
Long 20 – Dec Si x 5K @ 18.9717.
Concerning Chinese Bonds sold in 1913:
It is expected that once China reaches the agreed upon level of gold reserves then they will announce what those true reserve levels are along with how much US debt they retain. It will surprise many to learn at that time that China used a large portion of their US debt to pay back the sovereign debt of the bonds and increase their gold reserves at the same time.
This is the mechanism by which China will unload US debt without the risk of a devaluation of their investment. And at the same time the debt level of the US is reduced dramatically with further reductions coming by way of the Chinese bonds which are held by the Treasury. And no one will even know that it is happening until it is all done.
The dollar will not collapse as a large burden of the sovereign US debt will be adjusted downward and a more balanced approach can be taken on everything from IMF reform and G20 negotiations.
A very good read from the start. I highly recommend it.
Taken from “The Fall of Man’s Logic” by JC Collins philosophyofmetrics
Has anyone ever heard of these Chinese Bonds sold in 1913?
Great interview that is prescient. Thank for continuing to provide guests that are clairvoyant in expressing their views. I strongly recommend Jacob Soll’s book “The Reckoning: Financial Accountability and the Rise and Fall of Nations.” It will bring great insight to what we are witnessing in our world today. Be well and fear not!
GREG; NOT SURE ABOUT THE TIMING OF THIS BUT SURELY MAKES SENSE. I KNEW THERE WAS ANOTHER CLEARING – HOUSE WAS COMING FOR GOLD IN SHANGHAI – THIS WILL CORRECT THE MANIPULATION FOR SURE.
AS PASTOR LINDSEY WILLIAMS TOLD US YEARS AGO- HE WAS TOLD- ” KEEP YOUR EYES ON CHINA, CHINA IS THE BIG ONE!!” AND GREG I BELIEVE I TOLD YOU BEFORE, FIRST PRES. BUSH ( THE OLD MAN) WHEN HE WAS AMBASSADOR TO CHINA SIGNED AN AGREEMENT WITH CHINA AS REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE NEW WORLD ORDER, STATING THAT THEY THE NWO WOULD DESTROY AMERICA.
THE NWO ARE FASCIST AND WILL GET ALONG GREAT WITH THE COMMIES, BEDROOM BUDDIES! FEW PEOPLE KNOW HE DID THIS! ALL SHOULD HATE THE BUSH FAMILY – COMPLETELY CORRUPT FAMILY!!
AL
Al;
we agree!!!!
Al Hall. Lindsey also said America would open the Alaska pipeline and compete on the world market. A lot of things a play. One thing is certain America is not planning to win the money game. Lindsey Williams is hard to listen to, but he is mostly correct. The pipeline contract was a big game changer.
Mr. Organ’s take is interesting. My personal observation is a major event could happen around the end of October/November but we shall see. Either way we can all capitalize on all of this. “In times of crisis comes great opportunity.”
Gregory,
so, do u agree with the collapse of dec. or not, or maybe reserved?
Interesting take Mr M.
Your view is “Opportunity” from the train wreck. I am more focussed on surviving it !!!
Only a delusional capitalist thinks like this.
Let’s see. We’ve got the growing potential for a nuclear war with Russia/China, or a major pandemic spreading across the country killing perhaps millions, or a major terrorist attack or attacks looming not to mention a total collapse of the US economy.
But don’t worry people because there are going to be some really sweet deals for you to make a killing on. That is if you’re not fighting for mere survival, being brutalized under martial law or already dead.
Some people just don’t understand how serious things are and need to wake up to the reality of where we really are. When the SHTF I doubt there will be many sitting around discussing investments and all the money they are making. Anyone buying into this BS is about to get a reality check and I think it’s coming sooner than later.
Great interview Greg. Shocking. Best to all here…
Mike,
As I see it, according to biblical understanding, potentially 1/3 rd of all living things on the earth and in the ocean will die. The bible indicates that no one would survive except God will cut those days short. However some will survive (here on earth) and ultimately the thousand year reign of Jesus Christ will be ushered in where satan will be bound.
My question to you is this; will you (or I) and any of our friends or relatives survive and be there to pick up the pieces ? Will we have the resources and understanding to steward the earth as was intended from the beginning ? I declare life not death, my glass is half full, not half empty. I know full well the trauma that is to come upon the earth but I also have faith that the ‘Great Commander In Chief’ will see me through and I will either be with Him ‘over there’ or I will be here to live in a fullness that I have never known !! Jesus said that if the man had known what hour the thief was coming he would not have been robbed !!
Very interesting Greg thanks as always. My concern here in the UK is for a gold confiscation following these events. I know you had that issue in the US some years ago so it is certainly a possibility.
Sam,
Do you know ANYONE in the UK with gold worth the confiscation ?
The political cost of the UK government having to admit that they were short of real money would be huge compared to the pitiful amount they could collect.
Relax. Confiscation is not going to happen here.
Greg, all any of us can do is pray for the best and prepare for the worst. Mr. Harvey was a great interview, thank you very much for your hard work and dedication. The thief always comes in the middle of the night and not in the light of day. You always bring things to light.
Sambo
Greg,
If Harvey is correct that the price of gold and silver will skyrocket,this might explain the emergence of the copper bullion coins that we are seeing. Silver now is the poor man’s gold, but at $200 per once copper may have to take this roll. I feel that this could be just another small piece of evidence pointing to the coming PM default.
Ciga Steve
Greg, What happens to SLV and GLD? Do these ETF’S collapse? Will these paper contracts vaporize if the US defaults? A bear wants to know. Anyone welcome to respond.
Greg, I love you like a brother….. but, interviewing people like Harvey on your show does not bode well for your reputation. After all , Harvey is a little _________ (you fill in the blank).
Why do I say this? Because I have been reading Harvey’s blog for well over four years now, and his predictions are seldom or if ever correct.
Will gold get to 10K an oz some day? YES! But having said this…… be careful of what you wish for people because society will look like nothing you or I have EVER witnessed in our lifetime(s).
John,
Why don’t you fill in the blank and when you do use an verifiable first and last name.
Greg
Ok Greg I will “fill in the blank”. Harvey, in my opinion . . . . (This is Greg Hunter. Whoa, I said you need to use a real verifiable name. You don’t get to come on and trash someone this granular with out using a real name. Harvey Organ uses his real name and you should use yours before you “fill in the blank.” No acceptations.) (Also, please tell us what you do for a living and your finacial experience. That is only fair if your are going to trash someone publically.)
Greg Hunter
My name is John Barney, I’m 60 years old and I’m a sales rep for a large mechanical contractor. Sorry Greg, but I’m not going to disclose my financial experience on this blog, but IF you would like to know, call me … my cell # is 425-50#-$### (Greg Hunter edited this number to hide it not John) . I will admit that I’m a stacker and have been for many years.
I’m not trashing Harvey; I’m just giving my “true” opinion. I never said that he is crazy, stupid or insane, nor did I belittle him. I like Harvey but he has a poor track record and unfortunately people every word that he has to say… kind of like the TF Metals report.
You know, you kind of remind me of Glenn Beck in some ways ….. if Mr. Beck is challenged on any given topic and is contrary to his point of view he can be vicious. I have followed Mr. Beck when he first appeared on CNN…. I think he followed Lou Dobbs…. Oh, by the way I believe that even Lou is not what he once was … selling his faux news
Look, in order to be informed one must listen to ALL viewpoints regardless of what one thinks. There is so much disinformation and misinformation it is very difficult to sift through any given topic in order to discover the truth. People like Harvey “muddy the waters” and can be very confusing innocent people because they take this information at face value.
If you would like to know why I’m absolutely certain that Gold IS NOT GO TO $10,000.00 by the end of the year then once again give me a call brother.
John,
Thank you. I have a lot of trolls here and you are obviously not one of them. By the way, I edited your phone number after you gave a it. I don’t want to cause you damage or hassle.
Greg
If you are “absolutely” sure that gold is not going to $10,000.00 why not tell us? What have you got to hide? No one’s going to put you in jail. At least HO has the guts to give his opinion. You can either believe him or not. Everyone’s got to do their own homework. I like Greg but I wouldn’t go out and buy 200 oz. of gold simply on something that he said.
Or144,
Nor should you, and I like you too!
Greg
Look, in order to be informed one must listen to ALL viewpoints regardless of what one thinks. There is so much disinformation and misinformation it is very difficult to sift through any given topic in order to discover the truth.
THE MIND IS LIKE A PARACHUTE, IF IT WONT OPEN, IT DOESNT WORK.
John,
Have you been following Greg’s site for long? Harvey is not saying anything that hasn’t already been said by a multitude of other people Greg has interviewed. Don’t be fooled by the illusion. Part of any scam, is selling the illusion its real. We are literally on borrowed time thanks to a printing press, and a news media willing to be a tool for a banking cabal.
What Harvey does that nobody else is willing to do is put a date on things. It is not reasonable to be so confidant in the timing of something one is not in control of. Neither Harvey, Greg, you or I are on the inside, we are all outsiders looking in –and THAT is the problem.
Society today doesnt remotely resemble what it was.in the 1960s.and.1970s. None of us here are wishing.or hoping.for.a.collapse. But because mostof us have a basic eeducation, we.understand that America has borrowed and.pissed away more money.than.it can.ever repay….you.know what they call.that…..fill.in the blank
Greg, firing on the religion of peace is exactly what ISIS wants, they hope it will help start their caliphate and unit the other billion sympathetic Muslims. Time will tell, but I’ll bet Obama will take the path of least resistance whatever rhetoric he delivers in his speech this evening. Obama can’t move the news cycle to more issues such as racism or whatever until he gets ISIS off the news cycle; which, tonight he works to move it off While the so-called coalition is assembled & should ISIS stop killing people while being photograph, he can later just change his mind and continue to build a consensus to “manage it”.
Something doesn’t add up. He says total gold was 28,000 tons but China now only has 5,000. Where did the other 23,000 tons go besides a bit to Russia and India? Where is the shortage?
Jimha, Harvey Organ is a dreamer who states what he “Wants” as “Facts”—-the reality is this guy spends way too much time on the computer and needs to get outside or something—maybe find a hobby that doesn’t involve “guessing”.
Western Central Banks have sold Gold (via leasing) but not all of that (28,000) has been taken up by China and Russia. Jewellery, Investment and Industrial uses account for the bulk of where Gold goes (approx. 80%). CB’s only account for approx. 17% of all gold produced.
Interestingly Harvey’s estimated 4,500 tonne hoard only equates to $190Bln in todays dollars. Hardly enough to support a currency. Strikingly though @ $10K / oz that value becomes $1.46 Tln. A 10,000 tonne hoard on the other hand at $10K/oz equates to $3.3 TLN. Still that amount is marginally sufficient when one considers what is required for a fully backed currency.
I personally believe that China has in excess of 10,000Tonne. From a base of 1054Tonne it has been acquiring and producing since 2001 at an ever increasing rate.
Applying some rationale to the world production and its own sovereign production in terms of what is retained/purchased by the Government, allows for a conservative 7,000 – 10,000 tonne. Almost 20 % of gold goes into bullion bars and coins and ends up in investment houses (some of which are private, never to be touched hoards). So the PBOC potentially is holding the largest single stash of Gold at this time.
A price adjustment (revaluation) would bring out substantial Gold. Keep in mind that of the said 171,000 tonne (+- 3,000) of Gold in the world today, some 84,000tonne is in Jewellery. Generational Gold Jewellery will never come onto the market. That may account for 2/3 of that Gold. That leaves 28,000 tonne potential feed stock for the annual deficit of 1,800 tonne OR another 15 years of price manipulation. That is of course unless there is a default event which destroys the paper mechanism. That brings undesirable consequences in and of itself.
SIG,
The manipulations of re-hypothication – from 5 to 1; to 100 to 1 – may go to 1000 to 1, or beyond total absurdity. The Game itself is an horrendous fraud – designed to destroy or marginalize the last vestiges of weaker hands. Those involved in this; and the fiat Dollar deserve what Bernie Madoff got. It is this Game which is a betrayal to the Western World, and Americans in particular. Consequences are consequences – I say: end the Game.
Charles,
I agree.
Sadly the hypothecation and re-hypothecation is not confined to the PM’s market. My intuition and understanding of financial markets and banking practices tells me that collateral of all types is tremendously short. This implies there are a multitude of claims on all assets that are encumbered or held on account. When Dr Larry K. says to get out of brokerage accounts bcos of the uncertainty of the practices of the brokerage house….he is just scraping the surface.
The Criminal institution that is the BIS is responsible for regulatory supervision of the Cabal of Bankers. It knowingly permits its brethren to continue to exponentially expand the leverage on all assets. Without legitimate regulation the system becomes biased and very unstable. Are they so incompetent to allow this to continue and not understand the ramifications …OR…. is it intentional to bring about destruction and a monumental transfer of assets.
SIG,
I am a self-informed amateur – but take stock in my intuition also. Egon Von Greyers on KWN says that the real Black Swan will be the unimaginable amount of Derivatives and the interest rate that must normalize at some point. I think this is right. The world is slipping out of America’s fingers – and it deserves it.
You are sharp as a tack; and one of the best commenter on this site.
In general, a mixture of historical facts and some manipulation of the Scriptures.
You are obviously a member of the Jehovah’s Witness community, as the over-emphasis upon the failed predictions made for 1914 are still adhered to in your community. Yes, I do know history, and I know that you start the times of the Gentiles at about 605BC when Babylon conquered Judah + 2520 years (7 times of Dan.4), which brings one to about 1914. However, what your group cannot explain is why, after your original predictions for 1914 failed, you changed its interpretation to mean that “God’s Kingdom in the hands of Jesus Christ has begun to rule in the heavens”. That interpretation is pure nonsense, and does not hold water under close examination.
By the way, God’s name is Yahweh, not Jehovah. As one Hebrew commentator says, Jehovah is ‘a mongrel’ word, a mistaken conjunction of two different Hebrew words, that was the result of an error made by certain scholars. No recognized modern Hebraist supports the use of that name or pronouciation.
Emeth,
Thank you for pointing this out to me. I have removed the original comment from “1914”.
Greg
Greg, you may have been a bit quick to remove the post, for I am sure we all agree that people and groups should be able to present their perspective or worldview as long as it does not take over your central objectives, and as long as it can be critiqued.
When someone expresses a view that is speculative or interpretative, we all need to carefully and clearly identify the thinking, philosophy or belief that is behind the words. That is sometimes hard to know, but it may help us to understand why they arrange information and facts the way they do. We are all in some way the products of our education and environment.
Emeth,
It people want to make a critique that’s fine, but a granular bashing of someone should at least be done with a verifiable first and last name they are willing to publically post. I don’t post anonymously and none of the guest here are allowed to post anonymously.
Greg
Dude,
The JWs.are.good at subverting young minds. One.of my stars in my crown in heaven will be due.to.the.number.of JWs.that were.excommunicated because they were dating me and they later converted to Christianity. In the.mid 1970s a bunch of JW s bought into.the.end.of the.world and spent everything they could beg borrow or steal…then there was this.little.problem that.the.world.didnt.end. That should have cause all.of them.to.convert
Thanks for.putting.1914s garbage into.perspective
500,
Oh, that is what Emeth was talking about. Emeth, I don’t want that material posted on this site. Please start your own and post anything you want.
Greg
Sorry Greg, I saw the JW post was without proper foundation and bit subtle, which I tried to point out. But the larger point I was trying to make is that we all filter information according to our acquired beliefs. It’s just a human thing, and as a consequence I find it difficult to be too harsh on such people or groups. As the saying goes; ‘there but for the grace of God go I’.
Emeth,
I have found that people need to call out those who attempt to lead people away.from God’s true word. My.mother still invites JW Pioneers into the house for tea and explains the Bible to them. And any group that limits the seating.in heaven to.144,000 needs to.be.ridiculed. My God, the one true God, he.is.the.alpha and the.omega…there are no limits on my God, he is limitless
Greg,
Emeth.was.pointing out evil, not.participating
500,
Sorry Emeth. My bad. I get so many comments it’s hard to read and grasps completely what is said.
Greg
The JW’s are misguided cult indoctrinated people who need to find Jesus on a personal level and not on a “theocratic institutional” model 1975 came and gone See article the Watchtower April 15, 1968 “Are you looking forward to 1975” if you doubt their last prediction of the end of the world, aka, Armageddon.
Why not call Jesus by his proper Jewish name, “Yeshuah.”
Because I am Christian…I.hope that works for you
Greg, great interview. Things are really starting to heat up. When is Jim Willie coming back on?
Greg,
Organ has it wrong…it’s OIL that runs the world. Why do you think we are in the middle east? To stop China (or only big threat) from taking over all the natural resources there. Africa, same thing.
Russia is in a bad spot. If we want to bankrupt them, we tank the price of oil and they go belly up.
China is paying way too much for land, oil and everything else just to keep their population employed.
No….it’s the OIL.
Oil will be trading in Yuan, Rubles and gold in the near future so how does the U.S. tank the price?
Cant the.same.be said.for. wheat, rice.and.corn
Greg, as always you ask engaging questions and do a great job; however, having idiots like this on your show discredits not only you but the entire “honest money” movement. Harvey Organ is an idiot—he doesn’t have a clue and throwing out ridiculous numbers like $200 silver is the reason why so many honest money advocates are belittled and denigrated.
Sorry, but anybody who has followed the industry for any amount of time knows Harvey doesn’t know what the h3ll he is talking about.
William,
So you don’t think the facts and analysis hold water. OK, give us your facts and analysis that involve something other than name galling and only your opinion.
Greg
I agree William.. for the life of me, I can not understand why people believe the content in this video. Some people on this blog just eat this stuff up. Why…. it defies logic. It makes me very sad that some people are so darn gullible.
John and William. I am trying to understand the flip side of your logic. I just can not understand why China, Russia, and India is stocking up on gold if they believe the price will drop? Why do it? They already have more then they can ever use for industry. Do you have some info they don’t?
I honestly want to know.
JC Davis,
I can only offer my opinion – with a grain of salt. Russia and China are ‘Old School’ disciples, who value precious metals as history has done. They believe that something, other than words, or propaganda, or paper fiat HAS to back currency. The US, adhere to a newer, Liberal view, that essentially says: “value is what WE assign to it.” I think they believe their own lie that precious metals are ancient relics of the past; and have been willing to off them, in order to buoy-up a game they win with. They also believe that at some point wealth will all go digital – and they will sweep themselves into position as the Controllers. I think the rest of the world is not willing that this should happen.
Clear as mud?
JOHN,
It makes me sad that people are so darn ignorant. Problem-solving requires facing problems. Ignoring facts and issues is more comforting and less stressful; and people adjust their perspectives to accommodate their comfort-level. The future will come, presenting problems and consequences. I believe your criticism here will be proved wrong: because the facts are there – whether you choose to see them, or not.
All truth passes through three stages:
1. It is ridiculed.
2. It is violently opposed
3. It is accepted as being self evident.
HO has as much a clue on what’s going on as anyone else on this blog. No need to go name calling. I read a lot of these blogs. HO is the only man that I am aware of that has had the guts to step out of the crowd and give a date. These guests are hounded for a date of the metals spike all the time and no one ever gives one. This guy gives a date and some of you people still hound him. Ho is a lot more believable than a lot of guys blogging on this site.
Thank you again Greg , mind blowing interview which I have shared with friends but also included your 2nd Jim Rickards interview where he talks of the trigger for collapse possibly being a Comex default.
https://usawatchdog.com/fed-insolvent-dollar-will-collapse-90-or-more-james-rickards/
By the way I suggest there is one button missing from your survey.
“Do you think world war 3 already has started”
I would probably click that one.
I think Washington or whom ever controls it, has gone beyond the planning or blunder stage. Looking around the globe, it would appear the World has been dragged to yet another Global War. Almost every ongoing conflict has Washington’s finger prints all over it.
The question now, is can it be stopped before the death toll grows exponentially ?
Fingers crossed.
All the best
Craig
Slight Danish / English correction
By the way I suggest there is one button missing from your survey.
“Do you think World War 3 has started ?”
I would probably click that one.
What does Mr. Organ know anyway? I mean, just because he’s studied and covered and written about the metals markets daily for all these years, …okay, enough of the levity. Thanks to Mr. Hunter and Mr. Organ for the ground -breaking interview. I am looking forward to waking up this fall and seeing those quotes for gold and silver that at first may seem to be some kind of typo…..I think it will happen last half November. Again, Harvey, it’s been a long road and we loyal readers can’t thank you enough for your integrity and your diligence. You’ve gone way out on a (maple) limb here. It takes guts. But you’ve never been lacking in that department.
Jim Willie, John Williams, and Harvey Organ are making compelling cases
for the systemic collapse occurring in 2014.
I should probably take that long-delayed vacation now.
I would have hoped for an inflation forecast, because turning gold or silver over to Chinese interests makes little sense in a hyperinflationary environment.
It is difficult to ascertain what the new US currency would be backed by since the gold is gone, and silver would have less cache and availability.
David,
I think nothing happens before the November Mid-term elections at least not if the Obama Administration can help it.
Greg
Greg;
I have been thinking the same, but didnt voice it. The oligarchs must get the war mongering repubs. in quickly; circa “bomb bomb bomb, bomb Iran -John McCain” b 4 they declare martial law. ie NDAA, of which the republicans did not object to. If we go to ww3, the democrats are too stupid to fight a war these days, circa obobo.
allen,
I think this will be a matter of handing the bag over to the patsies – who are going to stuck holding it when the wheels come off and the blame begins.
I would not count on it. They could sure use a false flag right about now.
DUDE
0bama has set us up.for.real.disaster
Forget the false flags shiite, we are going to.have.real emergencies. Starting with.the diseases these illegal aliens parasites are bringing, the economic strain on the.neighborhood schools and.add.the.PC police that will not allow a GI.to wear his uniform to.school.to visit his child. I see real dangers set up.by our T-ball President.
Not every thing is a false flag, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. Other times, its a.Presidential sex.aide
David Brown.
If you knew the exact date of an economic collapse, would it make any difference to you?
Pardon me for saying, but we’ve been in collapse mode since 2008. Stage by stage, thanks to QE. It didn’t stop it, it stalled it. And now the brakes are wearing thin. Everything I have is going into survival preparation. If you think this is all B.S. and haven’t been preparing, my advice to you is, go enjoy your vacation. Have a ball. Eat, drink, and be merry…because when it does come, you will be dead. This isn’t a sitcom. Its real life, with real life consequences. As far as gold and silver. Its worth owning, only if you manage to survive the initial impact of the collapse. It is what is. Insurance.
Jerr, I’m fully aware of the consequences. This thing has been in disaster mode at least since the US left gold standard. I have no illusions. I’m not so sure mass casualties will be status quo, but it won’t be pretty.
I don’t need an exact date, I just know its coming. I, too, am going into preparedness –have been for over 30 years.
Gold and silver will be crucial to one’s long term survivall–assuming you’ll think it’s an existence or a life worth living.
If this forecast is true we will find ourselves surrounded by horror. There will be wailing in the streets- in the market place. Mothers will take the lives of their children then their own. Beggars with hungry children will pound on our door. We may kill the first intruder but there will be more. I agonize at the very thought. This is not the way that I wanted to write the final chapter of my life.
Dale,
I applaud your sincere honesty and candor. Each of us will face the future according to our gifts and convictions. May you be your best.
About 2 years ago I had theory. I posted it on a few sites – this one I think as well. It wasn’t anything novel or prescient as anyone with a forward-thinking view would have come to a similar conclusion. My thought was that China would hold a ‘press conference’ – replete with major news organizations from around the world, to announce – and more importantly, to Show the world its gold holdings. This ‘event’ in turn would mark the end of the road of American $USD hegemony. As time rolled on, I saw aggressive foreign policy actions by the U.S. as a possible ‘trigger’ mechanism to accelerate this event. Again, nothing that any sane forward-thinking man with his head ratcheted on tight would have figured out. Mr. Organ, Mr. Willie, Bill Holter, Andy Hoffman and many others all have had similar thoughts and prognostications. It’s coming. However, I would suggest that like one Mr. Rick Rule cautions, this ‘event’ is Not something to look forward to in the context of ‘getting rich’…
Hello Greg and crew,
I sat threw 0bama’s latest attempt at propaganda. It clearly shows he doesn’t understand the.problem. ISIS is.first and foremost an Islamic organism. 0bamas claims.to.the contrary.at the request of CAIR are.ludicrous
Galaxy 500. I watched the insanity show also. At the end of it I said to myself Galaxy just busted his tv with a boot…LOL
Yea 500, if they are not Islamic then why do they require prayers 5 times a day at the local Mosque. The point is our President refused to believe there is a very large worldwide Muslim movement such as was seen in history for 500 or more years ending in 1924 with the final defeat of the Turkish (Ottoman) empire.
G500
He’s an actor reading a teleprompter. A cabal puppet. Don’t waste you time, because its just a photo op for the media. Nothing more.
Jerry
Hes the first social.promotion President, in addition to being.the.first half black, half.white President. I think hes too narcissistic and egotistical to be a puppet. And too incompetent. I think.we.are.going down a.road to.hell.and no ones at the helm
Hey G500
I agree with you!!
Cheers
Col
Greg
0bama says his doctrine has been clear that if you.threaten America you.will.be.destroyed…really?.since.when.did.that become.policy
Galaxy 500,
About your repeated use of full stops:
I get the fact you are cocking a snook, but you are coming across as a cranky and tiresome old man.
National Punctation Day, 24th of September, 2014.
But I am…
besides, I.post this for free. If you would.send a little coin my way I”ll.be more than happy.to indulge your request.
And.it doesnt help.that I.type all.of my posts on a smartphone
Greg,
I fully expect, that when China pulls the plug on the Comex and LBMA – Big-Whigs will saunter-up to podiums and bang their fists saying: “It’s a Damn Lie!!!” “We got the gold (not that we will let anyone see it) – and this is all a dirty political play to discredit America: and it has no merit whatsoever!” Red faces and all.
I can understand some comments about Harvey because he did imply for quite some time the possibility of Comex default “in the next forward month”. That was a year or 2 ago and I lost interest. It was always about the imbalance at the Comex that needed to be settled. Well, one thing I’ve learned thru the years is this cabal has a way of putting off D-day farther than one might imagine……. We all know it’s coming and I suspect this fall, as he does, if only because there’s too many things coming together then. Perhaps like a clock this time we will all be right but as so many have posted it won’t be pretty and it won’t be fun…….What will life look like when my silver is @200/oz ?
Some people ask what Harvey has to gain by making such bold and thinly supported predictions if he’s not directly tied to gold retailers or miners. Has anybody stopped to think that ATTENTION
To try to buy time, wouldn’t the US Gov, and the big banks give China land when they cannot give them their gold and silver?
Rich M You are correct sir. In fact this has been considered already. Sneaky as it was there was a proposal to give China American soil to operate there companies on. There by saving on cost of shipping. It fell threw when it was attached with Chinese people living here without being citizens.
http://youtu.be/Tkzly2lCpwU
I meant to post this.
http://www.wnd.com/2013/01/china-poised-to-play-debt-card-for-u-s-land/
Rich M,
It would not surprise me that the very monuments in Washington will go into foreign hands. Marble isn’t cheap, you know!
Good point. I have read that they already own a good portion of upscale stuff in Manhattan and various other real estate throughout the U.S.
So by giving away our land, couldn’t this “kick the can” down the road some as far as Harvey’s prediction for this year? The very fact they would do that is dispicable, but to keep the sheeple grazing with their heads down longer, would they not do this before war????
Rich M,
You are correct. This is like Robo-signing real estate titles, but on a national level. Betrayal in the highest order. But if it is done – it will stick. And this COULD be why China isn’t dumping our TBills and Bonds yet.
Or perhaps when Harvey’s prediction is about to take place, by executive order they could call it a national emergency with regards to the PM’s and nationalize all the miners and in essense give those resource to the Chinese??? It makes sense to think if a business owed a HUGE amount of money, the chinese would take the business itself to settle for what they cannot be immediately paid…
Is there a link to more info on this 9-22 new futures market? I tried to look it up but haven’t seen any info about it.
Thanks
It’s so hard to say. I was just reading there is over 8,000 tons of gold in the ground in just three undeveloped locations in Alaska alone. Maybe gold isn’t as scarce a commodity as some think.
Great interview! My take is that there is a way for America to beat this seeming eventuality. The collapse of China’s real estate bubble could actually help the U.S. with regards to silver and the Comex. A collapse in China would have a global impact that would be deflationary, in my opinion. The demand for everything would fall causing prices to plummet. Silver would plummet because demand for silver in industry would plummet. Comex would then not need to come up with the silver because the demand would not exist. China is a major contributor to world GDP.
I used to be sure that we were headed for massive inflation but I am not so sure now when I look at the fundamentals in China, which lacks transparency, to say the least. We are seeing inflation now in food and fuel, and that is troubling enough. For now, I am staying liquid and I am storing food, fuel, water and some junk silver. I have also added cash to my storage plan. If Deflation is actually coming, then I want to be prepared to be able to buy a bargain prices. We are in uncharted territory here. The only thing the average American can do it get involved locally, prepare for any eventuality as best we can, and hope for the best. We can always eat the food and use the supplies that we store. Everything else is an unknown and is a potential risk for the little guys.
Here is my prediction for silver and gold Jan 15 2015
Silver 19.80 ounce
Gold 1260 ounce
This is going to be the most accurate prediction
Greg, I’m not sure gold and silver will hit those numbers that Harvey stated, but what do I know? I feel like if they were to skyrocket that quickly it would mean the dollar ends overnight. I believe we will see some big events take place by the years end, but the game won’t end for the USD until September of next year. Most on here agree that they are not wishing for the collapse to happen, but I suppose I am the minority here because when it begins we have only God to place our faith in. Distractions will be removed and our every meal and every sunrise will be by the grace of God until one day we are taken home. I for one cannot wait to leave this body of sin and death and meet the one who called me unto salvation and dwell with him for all eternity in paradise. Nothing on this earth can possibly compare, the apostle Paul said, I do not reckon the troubles of this present time are worthy to be compared to the glory that will be revealed within us. Let this collapse come and let our faith be made real and let almighty God be sovereign over all things that are to come.
HTC,
I was shocked to hear those numbers too but the world is crazy and the economy is clearly fraudulent on many levels. Frauds end badly and abruptly is my experience in reporting on the local level and at the network level. Look at Bernie Madoff, he went from king of the world to handcuffed felon overnight. I think the same will happen with the financial game as well it is just a matter of when.
Greg
Greg, the President understands the news cycle and once it changes and gets ISIS of the news then he will simply go back to the drone attack mentality of management of terrorists, a headline now and then that a couple were killed and so forth. I saw the speech last night and didn’t buy it, he might be a great speaker but and actor he isn’t. Politics forced his hand to fire on his beloved religion of peace and those very few misguided individuals called terrorists. He forget to mention last night that he will have his Attorney General issue arrest warrants to those who are actually caught on camera doing evil deeds, that will scare them for sure. Don’t underestimate Obama to say one thing and do another as his heart is not in it, he is a manager, a caretaker if your will, not a leader as in some notable past presidents.
Intriguing interview.
What is left out is the American response to any shift in gold and silver power plays by foreign countries.
Nationalizing the mines would be done in a heartbeat.
Opening old mines would commence since the high price of metals would then make it economically feasible to bring the ore out.
Ramping up production using federal land grabs and existing federal claims.
Recalling gold and silver in the name of National Security.
The NSA would pressure dealers and wholesalers to turn over or seize records.
The Gov. would have 2000 metric tonnes of gold and 3600 metric tonnes of silver in record time. Thats 115 millon oz of silver and 64 million oz of gold.
Their would default on deliveries sure but it would all be couched under the smoke and mirrors of National Security.
What estimates would you come up with?
Remember China must consume and use a portion of it’s physical gold and silver for manufacturing too.
Crippling our economy may be a stick they can never use except as a threat without crippling their own economy.
Things in this world have a strange way of developing.
I do not put it past the powers that be to create a world crisis and then suddenly bring detente into the forefront and create a new world currency (NWO) at the last minute where China , Russia and the U.S. jointly back all of the new currency.
Truth is always stranger than fiction and the future is fiction till it arrives.
E X T R A!_E X T R A! _R E A D _ A L L_ A B O U T_ I T!
Just in time; Dr. Kissinger’s blueprint for world order take’s effect, sunni after takedown of “King Dollar!”
World Order [Hardcover]
Henry Kissinger (Author)
Long View of History Includes Today
In ‘World Order,’ Henry Kissinger Sums Up His Philosophy
Given the multiplying foreign policy emergencies in the headlines, from the advance of the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) to the face-off between Russia and Ukraine, the subject of Henry Kissinger’s new book, “World Order,” could not be more timely. However the reader may regard the author’s own historical baggage, the book puts the problems of today’s world and America’s role in that increasingly interconnected and increasingly riven world into useful — and often illuminating — context. Like;
In this book’s most compelling sections, Mr. Kissinger uses his realpolitik lens (with its emphasis on balance of power, linkage and triangular diplomacy) as a revealing prism by which to look at, say, the roots of World War I and the sources of conflict in the modern Middle East. He similarly uses his knowledge of various countries’ historical proclivities and their self-image over the centuries as a frame of reference for current developments like the Arab Spring and America’s increasingly ambivalent role on the world stage.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/09/books/in-world-order-henry-kissinger-sums-up-his-philosophy.html
Henry Kissinger on the Assembly of a New World Order
The concept that has underpinned the modern geopolitical era is in crisis
By Henry Kissinger
Libya is in civil war, fundamentalist armies are building a self-declared caliphate across Syria and Iraq and Afghanistan’s young democracy is on the verge of paralysis. To these troubles are added a resurgence of tensions with Russia and a relationship with China divided between pledges of cooperation and public recrimination. The concept of order that has underpinned the modern era is in crisis.
The search for world order has long been defined almost exclusively by the concepts of Western societies. In the decades following World War II, the U.S.—strengthened in its economy and national confidence—began to take up the torch of international leadership and added a new dimension. A nation founded explicitly on an idea of free and representative governance, the U.S. identified its own rise with the spread of liberty and democracy and credited these forces with an ability to achieve just and lasting peace. The traditional European approach to order had viewed peoples and states as inherently competitive; to constrain the effects of their clashing ambitions, it relied on a balance of power and a concert of enlightened statesmen. The prevalent American view considered people inherently reasonable and inclined toward peaceful compromise and common sense; the spread of democracy was therefore the overarching goal for international order. Free markets would uplift individuals, enrich societies and substitute economic interdependence for traditional international rivalries.
This effort to establish world order has in many ways come to fruition. A plethora of independent sovereign states govern most of the world’s territory. The spread of democracy and participatory governance has become a shared aspiration if not a universal reality; global communications and financial networks operate in real time.
The years from perhaps 1948 to the turn of the century marked a brief moment in human history when one could speak of an incipient global world order composed of an amalgam of American idealism and traditional European concepts of statehood and balance of power. But vast regions of the world have never shared and only acquiesced in the Western concept of order. These reservations are now becoming explicit, for example, in the Ukraine crisis and the South China Sea. The order established and proclaimed by the West stands at a turning point.
First, the nature of the state itself—the basic formal unit of international life—has been subjected to a multitude of pressures. Europe has set out to transcend the state and craft a foreign policy based primarily on the principles of soft power. But it is doubtful that claims to legitimacy separated from a concept of strategy can sustain a world order. And Europe has not yet given itself attributes of statehood, tempting a vacuum of authority internally and an imbalance of power along its borders. At the same time, parts of the Middle East have dissolved into sectarian and ethnic components in conflict with each other; religious militias and the powers backing them violate borders and sovereignty at will, producing the phenomenon of failed states not controlling their own territory.
The challenge in Asia is the opposite of Europe’s: Balance-of-power principles prevail unrelated to an agreed concept of legitimacy, driving some disagreements to the edge of confrontation.
The clash between the international economy and the political institutions that ostensibly govern it also weakens the sense of common purpose necessary for world order. The economic system has become global, while the political structure of the world remains based on the nation-state. Economic globalization, in its essence, ignores national frontiers. Foreign policy affirms them, even as it seeks to reconcile conflicting national aims or ideals of world order.
This dynamic has produced decades of sustained economic growth punctuated by periodic financial crises of seemingly escalating intensity: in Latin America in the 1980s; in Asia in 1997; in Russia in 1998; in the U.S. in 2001 and again starting in 2007; in Europe after 2010. The winners have few reservations about the system. But the losers—such as those stuck in structural misdesigns, as has been the case with the European Union’s southern tier—seek their remedies by solutions that negate, or at least obstruct, the functioning of the global economic system.
The international order thus faces a paradox: Its prosperity is dependent on the success of globalization, but the process produces a political reaction that often works counter to its aspirations.
A third failing of the current world order, such as it exists, is the absence of an effective mechanism for the great powers to consult and possibly cooperate on the most consequential issues. This may seem an odd criticism in light of the many multilateral forums that exist—more by far than at any other time in history. Yet the nature and frequency of these meetings work against the elaboration of long-range strategy. This process permits little beyond, at best, a discussion of pending tactical issues and, at worst, a new form of summitry as “social media” event. A contemporary structure of international rules and norms, if it is to prove relevant, cannot merely be affirmed by joint declarations; it must be fostered as a matter of common conviction.
The penalty for failing will be not so much a major war between states (though in some regions this remains possible) as an evolution into spheres of influence identified with particular domestic structures and forms of governance. At its edges, each sphere would be tempted to test its strength against other entities deemed illegitimate. A struggle between regions could be even more debilitating than the struggle between nations has been.
The contemporary quest for world order will require a coherent strategy to establish a concept of order within the various regions and to relate these regional orders to one another. These goals are not necessarily self-reconciling: The triumph of a radical movement might bring order to one region while setting the stage for turmoil in and with all others. The domination of a region by one country militarily, even if it brings the appearance of order, could produce a crisis for the rest of the world.
A world order of states affirming individual dignity and participatory governance, and cooperating internationally in accordance with agreed-upon rules, can be our hope and should be our inspiration. But progress toward it will need to be sustained through a series of intermediary stages.
To play a responsible role in the evolution of a 21st-century world order, the U.S. must be prepared to answer a number of questions for itself: What do we seek to prevent, no matter how it happens, and if necessary alone? What do we seek to achieve, even if not supported by any multilateral effort? What do we seek to achieve, or prevent, only if supported by an alliance? What should we not engage in, even if urged on by a multilateral group or an alliance? What is the nature of the values that we seek to advance? And how much does the application of these values depend on circumstance?
For the U.S., this will require thinking on two seemingly contradictory levels. The celebration of universal principles needs to be paired with recognition of the reality of other regions’ histories, cultures and views of their security. Even as the lessons of challenging decades are examined, the affirmation of America’s exceptional nature must be sustained. History offers no respite to countries that set aside their sense of identity in favor of a seemingly less arduous course. But nor does it assure success for the most elevated convictions in the absence of a comprehensive geopolitical strategy.
http://online.wsj.com/articles/henry-kissinger-on-the-assembly-of-a-new-world-order-1409328075
— Dr. Kissinger served as national security adviser and secretary of state under Presidents Nixon and Ford. Adapted from his book “World Order,” to be published Sept. 9 by the Penguin Press.
Excerpt. © Reprinted by permission. All rights reserved.
INTRODUCTION The Question of World Order http://www.amazon.com/World-Order-Henry-Kissinger/dp/product-description/1594206147/ref=dp_proddesc_0?ie=UTF8&n=283155&s=books
(3 Amazon customer reviews) interesting.
http://www.amazon.com/World-Order-Henry-Kissinger/dp/15942061
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Greg,
If you analyze what JERRY writes above:
Harvey Organ has zeroed in on exactly what is holding up the three legged economic stool that we find ourselves sitting on.
1. Gold – to back investments
2. Energy – gas to fuel industrial engines
3. Technology – to transfer information
and then combine that with the interview itself, EPIPHANY!
A most marvelous interview, SIR!
I don’t care about the numbers or exactly when. I want solid information as to why! I want to know why the Chinese will announce. I want to know why the manipulators will eventually be unraveled. I want to know why anyone will LISTEN at the point of announcement. [no, they won’t listen, but the traders will and the loss of money speaks the truth of one’s situation to everyone]. And I want to know why the importance of what Harvey says may be lost on the multitudes if it does indeed NOT COME TO PASS.
WAR will both nullify China’s need to announce but it will not change the revaluation of Gold and the devaluation of the dollar. The importance of Harvey’s words are that Gold was the perpetrator of the prior events and Gold is the perpetrator behind the future events. Gold was the reason and GOLD is the reason — it was never the afterthought that we were led to believe it was! And THAT is why!
I like Harvey.
Who cares if he rocks his chair? I don’t see you picking on Jim Rogers when he’s riding his exorcize bike. 🙂
Harvey keep’s tabs on multiple aspects of the precious metals sphere, every day. And shares it for free on his site. It’s an excellent resource.
To know where Harvey Organ is coming from, first you must know his story.
Back in the day (the 90’s I think) Harvey and his Son went to their bank and made a request to visibly check on the bullion they owned and stored in the banks vault, on which they had been paying storage and insurance fees.
To their surprise they were told they would have to make an appointment for such a request and submit it in writing. Which they did. The answer they received did not meet their desires. Further meetings and correspondence were held with the bank.
To make a long story short, they were eventually allowed their initial request. To their utter shock, there sat a pitiful pile of bullion on a lone pallet, surrounded by boxes of financial documents and some shelves of cash behind locked, screened doors!
When they asked why it had taken so long to honor their request, they were told that the bullion was held at a different location and that it had taken this time to gather some of it and to ship it into the vault. Even though they had been paying storage and insurance fees for the bullion at this location!
These revelations infuriated Harvey and his Son and started his journey on the precious metals education process, during which he physically had removed his bullion from the banks vault to a secure location of his own.
During his eye opening enlightenment of the global precious metals markets, he made the decision to make his research available to the public at large, through his ground breaking web site. In his own words, he does not make a profit from his web site and carries on only to warn others of the massive fraud in precious metals.
Ukraine rebels watch Scotland vote with envy
A pro-Russian militant shows his ID card as he speaks to the Ukrainian press on September 10, 2014 near the small eastern Ukrainian city of Slavyanoserbsk
AFP 2 hr ago By AFP
“Why isn’t England bombing the Scottish separatists,” demands one supporter of the pro-Russian rebels in Ukraine in a Twitter post under a picture of the Scottish flag.
Insurgents and their supporters have taken to social media to mock the possible break-up of Britain in next week’s referendum on Scottish independence — and press their fight for their own state in eastern Ukraine.
http://news.msn.com/world/ukraine-rebels-watch-scotland-vote-with-envy
Greg, this is a biggie . It will push the dominos over.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-29154488
Jerry. I look for Russia , and China to drop the Treasury bomb in the next few months.
Greg,
Two things:
1) Fabian Calvo had a fantastic 8 minute talk on the failure of the Russian sanctions and why they are even being sanctioned to begin with.
2) Martin Armstrong wrote a great peace on Russian strength, and Putin’s buid up of a private-blackwater like army to be fully implemented in a few years.
Both have great angles !!
Very much appreciate this presentation and the various comments regarding same. I have been sinking everything that was not allotted for bills and groceries into hard assets for this past year and made my latest move after listening to your guest this morning. I had to move across the country (Pennsylvania to Arizona) to seek work as a result of the Jimmy Carter years. I learned new skills and self reliance. Never dreamed we would be living once again with an economy in shambles where skills and ambition get you just so far.
I hope you are correct about nothing happening between now and the November elections. There is a tendency to deflect by the current flotsam in D.C. If they can keep the Senate pretty much as is, the world is their oyster for the next bedeviling 2 years. I think they have taken our measure as a voting threat and found us wanting. The primaries pretty much telegraphed that we will tolerate this slop despite what we may say.
I have this nagging feeling that there will be some big distraction or perhaps some motivating event that will produce just enough emotionality to throw a wrench into what we’re counting on for election day. People are angry or at least ill at ease right now, but seemingly still too comfortable to do the right thing if it involves giving up the government giveaways. They will lose all of them anyway, but I do not sense that people can see that far. We’ll see in a matter of weeks if our families and our country count more than the buy offs. We are just as bought and paid for as our “public servants” (I refer to them as public SERPENTS).
Woody88… There’s lots of gold in the ground. I just takes sweat and lots of money to get it out. Thus the value for 1000’s of yrs…… As always, in the end he who has the gold wins. That would be the east…….Some might say he who has the war machine. History has shown EVERY SINGLE TIME those world powers fell because of their currencies, despite world dominance in the war machine arena…… China and Russia have the gold. Russia has the oil. We have a huge war machine that is highly dependent on technology. Take out the technology with an EMP and shut off the oil and the war machine is history.
Ken, do you really think the US doesn’t also have a huge real estate/financial bubble ? They will implode and we won’t ? Every one of our 10 largest banks are bankrupt, caring debt of 10-100 times their capital. Most of our states, cities, counties, pensions, and Fortune 500 co’s are operating in the red…..They all just keep borrowing from the future to balance their books…….. At least the Brics, China and Russia hold the only thing that will hold value when we all collapse (gold)…..What will the US stand on ? The full faith and credit (I laugh) of their paper printing and $200,000,000,000,000 of debt ?
Greg, I wish you would schedule an interview with James R. Norman, author of The Oil Card Global Economic Warfare in the 21st Century.
I just read it, and it is fascinating. I think your readers would be very interested in this man’s take on current events happening right now. His book was written in 2008, but shockingly his predictions have come true or are in the process of becoming true.
That was just a superb interview; and thank you Mr. Hunter for keeping Mr. Organ on track. I don’t know his work but he strikes me as the type of fellow who knows so much that he doesn’t realize how many jumps he’s making in his thinking. Anyway, I shall now do my bit and donate, as I’ve really gotten a great deal out of your interviews during the last few months.
Sorry Guys and Gals but I just had to hear what the Commander in Thief had to say about all this crap. Between his Islam sympathies, Big John McCain’s trying to act as though he wanted only to arm enemies of ISIS rather than ISIS itself and all the other Hollywood wannabes acting like we must help the Sunni’s. Oh wait a minute weren’t Saddam Hussein and his elite government Sunnis? So as with so many times we have come full circle and spent how much. Did everyone forget who we overthrew in Iraq after 9/11? I didn’t.
Greg,
Fantastic interview as usual. That said, my bet is with Catherine Austin Fitts in which she stated that the PTB will not allow a dramatic increase in the AU price. She noted that AU will be cleared with war not prices so the big numbers will not happen. Dec will come and go and in all probability, AU shall be lower. I ignore extreme prognostications and buy into weakness and sell the spike.
Reggie,
The PTB are corrupt to high Heaven – if you are fine with that – you are welcome to such company. Outside the Western Financial World – another reality is forming. THEY are not willing to play a game where the only option is to lose, or pay-for-play at exorbitant rates. You will probably still be gaming the system when it goes down. Good luck with that.
The real value of gold is the cost to manufacture gold. The same applies to the real value of steel or bricks. If it cost a mine $500 an ounce to mine gold, the value of an ounce of gold is $500. The same applies to bricks or any other product. E.g. If it cost a brick factory $0.20 to manufacture a brick, its the real value.
With hyper inflation, the price of gold will go through the roof, but so will the price of bread.
Gold is only a barter item, but other items can also be used as barter. Direct trading or exchanging of goods without the need of gold is also practical. E.g. A country can trade oil for agricultural prroducts or steel.
The banking industry want everybody dependend on gold or fiat money, but it is not necessary as many alternatives exist.
Gold is highly over prices and it is just used for speculation purposes.
Greg,
I totally agree that something has got to going on with precious metals market!
Everything related to living cost is going up. Groceries . Health care cost, Cable services, Insurance, Building supplies, college tuition, just to mention a few.
We also have asset inflation with Art, Trophy real estate, Muscle cars, Stocks all increasing in value. Why is gold and silver hitting new lows every day ?
I have thought long and hard about this and I can only come to one logical conclusion. There has to be manipulation of the metals markets.
It is in the best interest of the powers to be to keep real money suppressed while they continue to print endless amounts of dollars.
I do admire Harvey Organ for his efforts. But come on ! 200 silver and 10,000 gold by Jan 15 2015 are way out there.
Why not have him back on your show after Jan 15 2015 and see how accurate he was. In the mean time if every one else is guessing allow me to do the same.
So here is my prediction for 1/15/ 2015 Silver $24 Gold $1400
Why silver will rise massively while gold stays put:
I tend to agree regarding the silver supply. Where I disagree is that there is a high chance that unaccounted for gold is floating around somewhere – not necessarily at the central banks. The world’s total gold has never really been counted since most of it had always been held by states and kings or looted by states and kings. Since at least 100 years there is even decreasing transparency who exactly has what where on the gold market – because gold has step by step been replaced by paper in the public and was then extremely centralized in … central banks ‘gold concentration camps’. WW2 alone is a huge misty landscape when it comes to gold movements (Phillipines, etc.). There is e.g. no real accounting where all the Chinese gold, looted by the Japs went – same for the Burmese, etc.
So, the gold accounting mostly only focuses on the gold of the West – like history in the West focuses on Western history too. Western experts don’t realize that most of the world’s gold always has been in Asia (India, Burma, China) and that the exact quantity of the Asian gold is an extremely vague guestimate.
Silver on the other hand was always more transparent because it was used for payment between people – not between kings and states – and thus easier to track down and take publicly accessible inventories of it. People normally do straight deals, because they don’t have the means to cover up secrets. States and kings always do side deals and hide the true accounting from the masses. They can afford to do so and get away with it.
Therefore I assume that Harvey Organ is much more correct in his estimate of the silver supply than of the gold supply. Also, silver is much less political today in the West. much less a barometer. The US and England could allow it to rise claiming various pseudo reasons like “industrial use” (which is a real reason as well) for its sudden scarcity. Their people would swallow that. They can under no circumstances afford to do this with gold because it would simply not fly. If gold goes up the paper currencies fall.
So one scenario could be that silver is allowed to rise dramatically, maybe even to parity with gold (in $ terms) while gold stays put.
The West could even strike a deal with China that they allow them buying up all privately owned silver in the West through enormously rising prices and the following free market process – cutting a deal that China in return keeps quiet about the West’s default on physical gold.
In the short to medium term this would benefit both, the West obviously, but also China. China needs silver for its industry, more than 7000 tons a year, while they don’t actually ‘need’ gold except for a potentially gold backed Yuan. So, for the second time in history (let aside the Vikings) maybe, silver might become more valuable than gold and the above could be the reason for it.
Silver has been USED up the past decades, each year much more (twice) than what was mined. Gold was not used up but accumulated and shifted from here to there. The industry and economy – real people – needs silver, not gold. And they need increasing amounts of silver because of the booms of solar tech, medical applications and other new technologies where silver is used a lot.
So, again, what I expect is that the West (the consumer of the World) cuts a deal with China (the producer of the world). Keep all mouths shut about missing Western Central Bank gold while jointly allowing the price of silver to rise and reflect a true market.
The rise of the silver price can be explained away by propaganda main stream media and sheeple will swallow it in sufficient numbers. With the price of gold this would never ever be possible, even after decades of fluoridated drinking water and brainwashing.
Greg,
In the last week or so the weather forecasts for the U.S. this winter will be similar to last winter, even going so far as to refer to it as “snowpocalypse.” And it would seem logical for TPTB to allow the economy to crash in the middle of a brutal winter.
A very interesting take on Harvey Organ by the SilverFuturist who is an expert at chess and good judge of expertise in others when it comes to talking about Gold and Silver.
His claim is that Harvey Organ is a “living room” expert. Someone who appears knowledgable to friends and family but not an expert as far as the real experts are concerned. Worth watching before you get carried away with promises of huge prices before the end of 2014.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXwqYPOfWIU&list=UUBgYfi5EKCfD7ZJiIBDArSQ
Malcolm,
What do you know about silverfuturist? He’s quoting people with blogs that have anonymous names. Kid something? What? I don’t know what silver or gold will do. I do know the world is in very big financial trouble and there are hundreds of trillions of $’s in derivatives and an extreme amount of debt. I also know we are facing global war and even the Pope said this week that we are already in a “piecemeal WWIII.” That said I think everyone should hold some PM’s in a portfolio. There is a big difference between trading and investing. I try to find the best people and put them on. I’ll bet the CFTC would never consider having Silverfuturist of “Kid what’s his name” testify on the silver market. Oragan did and that is a fact. He’s also been covering the PM markets since 1999 on his public blog that is free. (By the way, Harvey Organ is his real name.) The amount of manipulation was missed by many. Manipulation of the all the markets is off the charts according to many experts such as Jim Rickards and Paul Craig Roberts. Missing this is not a normal market miscalculation but not fully comprehending the massive fraud that are the global markets. That has become clear in recent months. Many would not even admit the PM markets were manipulated until late 2013 or 2014. This kind of global fraud has never happened in recorded history, so give Organ and others a break. That said, I put out a lot of different opinions, and coming up I will have Martin Armstrong on as a guest. He is the polar opposite of Mr. Organ. That said, I will allow the link you posted, even though “Silverfuturist” is far from an expert, and not even in the same league as Organ.
Greg
Dear Greg,
Thank you for your detailed reply. It has merit. However, if Gold and Silver are manipulated why can I buy Gold and Silver for the same price that I can buy ‘paper’ Gold and Silver? When you stop listening to all of the talk about leverage and derivatives you are still left with the fact the real Gold and Silver is the same price as ‘paper’ no matter how much it is smashed down.
George,
I think you fail to understand the enormous risk in the financial system. Good luck with you strategy.
Greg
Dear Greg Hunter, Your shows are excellent. It shows that there are many people out there that have studied the market, the situation, with education and experience and they all have different views. The Holy Father knows, not us. Yet, in these times of which appear to be the Tribulation spoken of by the prophets, the most important words I remember are “Like a thief in the night.” I suspect if the trouble comes, it will be like a thief in the night. I am not a prophet.
I see the food getting scarce across the world, and now it is September, harvest, and since the USA and many western countries are on delayed supplies, I can see the food prices rising, quickly and soon. Right now, if you go to Walmart grocery on the last day of the month, I see lines of welfare food stamp people, waiting for midnight to make their next month food purchase, they are hungry, they are eating the food in the store, they ran out before the end of the month. I see that soon, the prices will get so high that the food stampers will not be able to get enough food to last 3 weeks, and then there will be a week with no food. I suspect that is when the riots will begin.
I see the ebola virus, having been in two epidemics, Typhoid and Cholera, in my life. Mark my words, ebola will circle the earth. We can see that the ebola scare stops commerce. It stops the supply chains from moving.
I see enterovirus 68, now if my memory serves me right, this enterovirus is endemic in central america. And now it has come to the USA, and has caused nearly a 1000 deaths in children, and the MSM says, Mystery Virus, yet, for those in the health care field, the enterovirus they talk of is endemic to central america, thus, the teens and young gangstas brought it up with them. This is obama’s disease, obama brought this to the USA.
obama is aiding and abetting the enemy, and still our elected officials in their perfect crime mentality, give us lip service, but no action.
When America revalued gold in the thirties gold flowed into the country. So when China revalues the price of gold the same thing will happen, china will become the biggest gold holder in the world.
“not one ounce of gold leaves China”
I’ve heard this many times and often wondered when I hear it, how come anyone can easily go online and buy a newly minted 2014 Chinese gold Panda?
are they not coming from China and being exported out?
AWESOME INTERVIEW Greg!!!
I feel Harvey is right but I hope he is wrong.
CC
Hi Greg,
I’m a newcomer to all things economic collapse. Although I am on a shoestring budget I’ve started to purchase silver coins. I can probably buy around 10-15 per month if I’m lucky. It’s not much but it will be something I guess. Here’s my issue with precious metals; in the event of a total economic breakdown aren’t things like liquor, food, fuel, clothing, guns and ammo going to be far superior commodities? Why would someone want my silver coins when we’re all trying to survive?
You should have both and you should have some cash too. It will work really good for a short while.
Greg
Is it true that Google took down Harvey’s blog site??? If true, this is as offensive as burning books!
Hi Greg, have you tried to talk to Harvey Organ since his site was pulled down?
http://jessescrossroadscafe.blogspot.com/2014/10/harvey-organs-gold-and-silver-blog-have.html
Would be interesting to see if he has any comments addressing why this happened.
What happened to Harvey Organ and bis blog???
Bis blog was removed today. This IS VERY CONERNING!!!
I hope he is okay!
herman,
It’s been taken down by Goggle and Harvey doesn’t know exactly why. That’s all I know.
Greg
Hi Greg, Since today the website blog of Harvey doesnt work. Know anything about this?
Maybe got hacked or taken down by the US or something?
John,
It’s been taken down by Goggle and Harvey doesn’t know exactly why. I called him and he told me he will get more details next week. I don’t think Monday is a holiday in Canada. That’s all I know.
Greg
Greg,
Please get Harvey on this week and ask him about his blog take down. People are saying that Google received a court order to remove it and that the court order cannot be revealed. You can imagine our interest in this after Harvey has been exclaiming (with such giddiness that he can’t even sit still for an interview) that COMEX delivery defaults are a few short months away.
All Others,
It is my understand that COMEX is a cash market. A delivery failure of gold or silver is not possible since the contracts do not guarantee delivery and can even be settled in cash when someone stands for delivery. Please put a damper on this nonsense about a delivery failure at the COMEX taking the whole system down. It is not clear to me how we would ever be aware of such an event, and it is even more unclear how it will take down the entire house of cards. COMEX will do what it does regardless of how much metal COMEX delivers. Only physical demand can “bring down the house of cards”.
Looks like something happened to Harvey’s blog. There are some statements flying around the Internet saying that he received a gag order or something. This is unsubstantiated as far as I can tell. But Harvey’s blog IS gone.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm …. a mysterious case of a disappearing blog …. very interesting.
Still no new intel of the mysterious case of the deleted blog?.
Because Harvey Organ was not talking his own book he was very believable. So people began loading up on silver coins to such a degree that the Canadian Mint had to put limits on dealer purchases. Seems the profound influence Harvey had on the public mind caused the elites to shut down his web site. The shutting down his web site after decades of being on line without problems shows that the elites are really in panic and can’t tolerate assaults any longer. Thus proving the End Game is truly near as Harvey says. So I bought my first ounce of silver and will purchase more with banker fiat as the battle heats up and the elites drive it down more.
Hi Greg
You are a blessing to all of us with the guests on yours show.
Please have Harvey back on every Friday’s wrap up until his web site is back up.
You will have all our first amendment preservation thanks.
Ron,
I am going to book him as soon as he is willing.
Greg
When is Jim Sinclair coming back onto the show? Guest suggestion: David Tice.
Yes, China will announce to the world that it has all the gold, the US Dollar will become worthless, and China’s exports will vanish. And all of their people will be out of a job and they will riot and kill all the Chinese rulers.
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The website has been pulled due to a court order?
Looks like Harvey’s Chinese COMEX theory was just another one of his CRACK-POT FANTASY STORIES…. Dear Greg; The next time you have Harvey on your show, please hold his feet to the fire about his FANTASY THEORYS instead of giving him a free pass to spout CRAZY TALK.
31st December – just hours to go now before China announces $3,000 gold. I’m just about to crack the champagne open in readiness!
The champagne went flat as I waited in vain for silver to hit $200. However, let’s not totally condemn Harvey, let’s see what January brings. He would not be the first person to make a correct forecast but be a little out on the timing. I read his blog on the Silver Doctors web site and I’m sure he is not imagining all the things he says about gold repatriation, China and Russia buying, the GLD and SLV and COMEX inventories. How long can TPTB keep up their fight to hold the prices down. Will H. O. be vindicated in January?
Jim Wille has a similar ciew to H.O.
“Gold to Make a Sudden Quantum Leap to $18,000 ?oz”
http://www.silverbearcafe.com/private/01.15/quantum.html
“I think the prices are going to skyrocket in quantum jumps. You won’t see a gradual move to $2,000 again. There’s going to be a sudden move to $2,600, like an overnight move. That could come about when Shanghai doubles the gold price.
They’ve got motive to do it. They are at financial war with the United States. When the Chinese can’t get more gold from London, that’s when they double the price. “
I was dead on accurate with my gold prediction for 1-15 2015 . However iI was off 1.80 with my silver forecast. Still all in all a pretty damn good call. Now heres my call for
Jan 2016 Gold 1550 ounce and silver 23.oo
It appears Harvey maybe off a wee bit, Manipulation still going strong, as of
Aug 24, 2015.
I predict SOMETHING will happen by the end of this year. I won’t tell you now what IT is, but I will be back to claim credit for predicting IT, after IT happens.
Its june 15 2016. And so far as I can see there is obviously no change whatsoever in the tribes manipulation of metals. Try again.