Suicidal to Stay in this Market-Charles Nenner

By Greg Hunter’s USAWatchdog.com

Renowned financial and geopolitical analyst Charles Nenner is doubling down on his prediction last year that the financial markets will crash in the fall of 2017. Nenner says, “People not positioned correctly may lose everything.”  Nenner points out, “We all know they say the market goes up 8% on a yearly basis.  That’s based on the fact if I draw a line through the markets, it shows 8%.  I don’t think anybody realizes how much we are above the line.  In order to get back to 8%, we have to go much below the line . . . So, it’s total nonsense to say we go up 8% a year when we are already 40% to 50% above that trend line that averages 8%. This is almost the longest bull market in history.”

Now, Nenner has additional research that backs up his position, and it involves the number 7. Nenner explains, “You go to my research that goes back to the 1800’s, 1900’s and 2000’s.  Go back a little, and you will see the market topped in 2017.  The next year was 2007, which was clearly a high.  If you go back to the next year that ends in 7, which was 1997, that was clearly a high.  1987 everybody knows about that, and I don’t have to go into it.  Then go to ‘77 and ‘67, ‘57, ‘47 and ‘37.  1929 was a little aberration, it should have been ‘27.  I still hold because it continued up and didn’t come down.  That’s why they had the huge crash (in 1929) . . . . Based on the past, the future repeats.  You have major correlation with major tops that are in years ending with a 7.  If you are a reasonable person, you would say this is too much risk for me.  If you are a super gambler, you say this time is different. . . . My cycle tops in September or October of 2017.”

Nenner says staying fully invested in this market is “suicidal,” and Nenner goes on to say, “I would advise people not to listen to people with all kinds of stories that this market is not dangerous. . . .This is the end of the bull market.”

Nenner predicts a big rally in bonds and gold, but not until mid-2018. On gold, Nenner says, “We always have this price target of $2,500 per ounce.  If they reverse what Nixon did, the financial system will be so much under presser they will go back on the gold standard.  If you really calculate it, the price of gold today should be $30,000 per ounce.  For the moment, in our model, gold is a bit expensive.”

On the “War Cycle,” Nenner, who is also an expert in both market and war cycles, says, “Wars come in cycles. It seems people have to have a certain amount of time so they forget how bad it was so they can start a new one. We talked about this a few years ago and said it’s not going to be the Middle East.  It’s going to be China and the islands.  In the aerospace industries in China, Japan, Vietnam and Korea, something is cooking over there.  I still think the whole thing is coming from there.  It’s just an accident that has to happen.”

Nenner adds, “I don’t think there is really no clean way to get North Korea under control. I don’t think there is any clean way to keep the United States safe.”

Join Greg Hunter as he goes One-on-One with world renowned cycle economist Charles Nenner.

(There is much more in the video interview.)

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  1. This sceptred isle

    The problem is when you take the chips of the table how do you store the money safely?

    • Frederick

      T SI The answer is don’t delay the selling too much as Yourll get slaughtered and in my opinion you should buy undervalued REAL assets such as precious metals and some cash
      Protecting your assets with lead I suppose would be advisable as well

      • Chip

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    • The Seer

      Spread it around. Pay off credit cards, utilities and property taxes a year in advance.
      I think the system will freeze and the banks will not be open. It will
      not last very long in the USA. Prep for three weeks – water, food,
      natural remedies, vitamins, soap, shampoo, pet food, stored
      gas or get an EV car. Enjoy the time off and build neighbor ties.
      Don’t fret. Meditate and pray and listen to your soul’s inner voice.
      I am not fleeing to NZ even though I have residency established there.
      It’s too cold. I have relocated to FL for warm weather and easier food
      growing in the shade with rain and water supply here and northeast
      enough to not be in hurricane path. Good luck! Thanks Greg for continuing your
      website interviews!

      • dbcooper

        Seer, No disrespect intended … Three weeks of food??? Three weeks plus 72hours equals death. I know that most here cannot/will not do what we here have done but I have been preparing in one way or another since I was about 14 years old. It is a sad reality that if and when the fecal matter hits the oscillator … there’s gonna be a whole lot of dead … brace your self. I do not mean to sound sanctimonious but the reality here may well be beyond our comprehension. Build neighbor ties and don’t fret ??? I have long contemplated which of my neighbors I will have to dispatch because they did not heed the warnings that we have given for years and THEY WILL show up on our door step empty-handed. It may well be a very sad and sobering reality. As SQ and many others advise … repent and take it to the Lord in prayer.
        Yours in Faith and Liberty, FN, DB.

        • Freebreezer

          Db – ‘per yours in faith’ … I am a bit lost per were in the bible it teaches to dispatch your unprepared neighbors? That seems a little harsh and is not the christian background I have learned?

    • ross

      I’m not a fan of Nenner. He contradicts himself on gold saying it should be $30,000 an oz but in this market is over priced presently ? He does not address market manipulation and thus I don’t trust him. This attitude suggests Nenner is playing both sides of the fence thus having an each way bet.

  2. Oracle 911

    Greg
    The problem is also systematic not just cyclical. I mean the foundation of this financial system is phony and it is coupled with a cyclical crisis which is its own.
    This mean your guest is half right.
    My 2 cents
    Oracle 911

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  3. This Sceptered Isle

    Many ancient cultures believed that time moves in cycles rather than in a linear fashion. It is our lack of a transcendental perspective that limits our perceptions such that we perceive time as linear. I believe that time moves in ascending spirals. On completion of the time loop old concepts re-emerge and fuse synergistically together with new ideas initiating a new paradigm. One possible example of this could be the idea of using gold as a monetary metal fusing together with the idea of crypto-currencies to create a gold backed digital currency such as bitgold.

    • This Sceptered Isle

      so viewed from within the flow of time it appears linear, from above it appears cyclical and from the side it appears as a spiral.

      • Lia Fail

        So true Sceptered Isle. This wisdom comes from the Isle.

        http://www.the-red-thread.net/Gods-of-the-Ages.html

        http://www.biblemysteries.com/library/liafail.htm

        • Greg Hunter

          I don’t believe any of this but I will post it for now. Any objections from anyone?
          Greg

      • Flattop

        Sceptered isle; HUH???

        • Tin foil hat

          Flattop,
          Speed = Distance/Time

          Example: you are standing on a moving train traveling at the speed of light. You install a mirror on the ceiling and a flashlight on the floor, the distance from the floor to ceiling is 10 ft. If you turned on the flashlight, what is the distance which the light has traveled?

          The answer is 20 for anybody who is on the train, time is linear. The answer is around 28-29 for anybody counting outside of the train. In this case, time has to be expanded to keep the constant, time is distorted and probably cyclical – time goes slower on the train.

          The speed of light is suppose to be constant in quantum physics. However, even light cannot escape the gravity of the black hole. If the speed of light is distorted and deviate from the constant as it is being suck in, time would probably move in spiral.

          • This sceptred Isle

            good summary of special relativity

      • Evan J

        TSI, Elegant image

  4. ross

    You cannot assess this present economic situation by past results. Never has there been so much market intervention with QE, the plunge protection team, and high frequency computer transactions. Charles does not impress me.

    • This Sceptered Isle

      Agreed. There is a sizeable amount of unpredictability at play. We can attempt to map the probability of events happening but not predict exactly what will happen. The more complex the system the more difficult this becomes…

    • Frederick

      Ross I agree with your comment

  5. Tray

    Definitely not one of my favorites and, in my opinion, not one of your top knowledgeable guests. I don’t agree with a large portion of what he said and he does not come off to me is having much conviction on anything. Meh.

  6. Tad

    So far, David Stockman , Charles Nenner, and possibly Clif High are in agreement about timing.

  7. Tad

    What a coincidence that the president was discussing peace from a series of tweets only days ago. Secretary Mattis was talking “tragic and prolonged” in an interview yesterday.

    If Gina was still around, and had a knowledge of the obvious, I would recommend gold and silwer as screaming buy signals.

    When his upcoming budget was released a few days ago, what stood out was cuts to the budget. the past few budgets under previous president should increases, though Bush II cut welfare to a point. Since nothing, really ever gets cut in DC, this to me, was another signal.

    How many hints does one need?

    • Frederick

      I agree that stocks seem WAY overpriced here and gold and silver WAY underpriced but things are so manipulated who knows This has gone on over five years

  8. Jerry

    Greg,
    According to my sources (which I can’t confirm) AIIB (Asian International Investment Bank) is going to roll out a new gold backed crypto currency to be used in place of the dollar, with its member countries, sometime between now and June 7th. If it is anything close to what happened with ZenGold last week, it should be epic.
    https://www.cryptoninjas.net/2017/05/28/physical-gold-backed-crypto-asset-platform-zengold-sells-ico-30-minutes/

    Its my understanding that the BRICS central planers are encouraging their member countries to develop their own gold backed crypto currency to be used in the AIIB trading platform. As is the case with ZenGold and so many other crypto currencies, the Shanghai Gold Exchange is backing the new currencies with their gold. In addition, it is my understanding that HSBC bank is overseeing all of the global exchanges with repurchasing and revaluing currencies from Tier 1 world banks in more than 70 different countries.

    Since the United States and several of our allies like Japan are not part of the AIIB membership network, the impact of this rollout on the dollar is a complete unknown.
    But I would imagine, that since China has opened a gold backed crypto currency trading platform in Dubai, it won’t be long before we find out. Who would have thought that a return to the gold standard would be carried out using digital currency?
    Certainly not me. But it does make perfect sense, and explains why the Chinese cornered the gold market.

    • Jerry

      Apparently most of the new alternate reserve currency is being released under the guise of infrastructure development by AIIB to avoid immediate conflict with the petrodollar.
      http://www.outlookindia.com/newsscroll/fm-to-attend-aiib-annual-meet-in-korea/1064191
      Though I can’t confirm this information, it does make perfect sense to saturate the currency markets from the bottom up, instead of the top down to avoid disruption in the current exchange system. The best part is the Chinese have put in place quantum satellite’s in their CIPS system so that the new exchange system set up by AIIB can’ be hacked by the western banking cabal.

      • Macray

        Jerry
        As always, may thanks for your posts.
        I am wondering why no one in the Gold community, other than your personal sources, and please correct me if I am wrong here, have not echoed your posted comments. Any thoughts here???

    • Greg Hunter

      Jerry,
      I am told the only reason why the Fed allows Bitcoin to exist is to study it. I have heard talk of the Fed going to their own block chain crypto currency. Folks say they are going to call it “FedCoin.” I cannot source and confirm this it is rumor but a plausible one and an interesting one.
      Greg

      • Paul from Indiana

        Greg, the federal government already has an extensive worldwide blockchain network, into/onto which “Fedcoin” would fit well, possibly seamlessly. Look at the serial number on a dollar bill. It is static. Blockchain means that the identifying digital code (serial number) assigned to a “dollar bill” can be modified/extended endlessly, thereby creating an electronic trail of the experience of the asset. In the case of Fedcoin, it would make tracing of money and its transacting participants relatively easy. There is nothing secret about blockchain coding. Anybody can learn about it. I did, and I am no “techie” or secret agent. Technology is explosively out of control. Robots, Fedcoin, self-driving vehicles, cell phones that give out your info 24/7, drones and more; forget “privacy” (not sure it ever existed anyway), but anonymity did, and it’s gone, too. Best always. PM

    • Paul from Indiana

      Jerry, April 20, your last “deadline”, is long in the rearview mirror, and we’re still here. Now we have to wait until June 7? OK, it’s only 6 days away. As Popeye used to say, “Well blow me down!” Don’t you get tired of living on the edge like this? It’s years now. I appreciate your sincerity. Maybe China cornered the gold market, because they realize fiat money fails eventually? Pull the plug on the USA, and you pull the plug on the world. Everyone knows this, and it’s why it hasn’t happened. Best always. PM

    • Freebreezer

      Jerry – this block chain stuff seems to be a HUUUUUUGE scam! give me some of your currency (preferably in Euro, dollars, yen, etc.) and I will give you some letters/numbers in a unique combination and transfer it to your computer and call it a ‘blockchain’ and wamush it is worth something? And it is not backed by anything other then a lot of computers saying that it is unique? It smells like a black opps out of some corrupt deep state government.

  9. David John Williams

    Thank you Mr Nenner, I hope you are not correct about war, but suspect you are unfortunately. Everyone brings their unique insight to the table…nobody will have it all correct. I think many old school financial pundits are missing the boat on blockchain.
    Two words about blockchain: DISRUPTIVE TECHNOLOGY
    The usual metrics do not apply.
    It doesn’t matter whether the present cryptocurrencies are trials set up by the financial elite(IMO very likely) or if they are legitimate human cleverness circumventing the rigged system(if inclined, pray to God they are); blockchain will form the structure of every aspect of society and economy.
    Establishment is rallying around Bitcoin and Ethereum…it’s my strong opinion that these two cryptos are either their creation or their target for a coup(‘fork’ in crypto-speak). Greg, I think you’ll inevitably be talking more about cryptos as the capital flow will defy comprehension.

  10. Arthur Barnes

    Greg, about every 75 to 80 years there is a major war, seems a generation or two must go by thereby forgetting about the horrors the grandfather & grandmothers went through. Its been almost 80 years since 1945, the end of the second world war, where millions upon millions were killed and or devastated. Your guest is quite correct in that we are in the “time zone” for worldwide financial crisis and war!

    • This Sceptered Isle

      What is worse is that a lot of our leaders used to have military experience. Now they have none. War has become merely an abstract concept to them.

  11. john duffy

    Why The Seth Rich “Investigation” Should Terrify Everyone
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3GnMx31BJA

    • Frederick

      Thanks for mentioning Seth Rich We need to keep the pressure on and not let TPTB deflect what happened with noise