WNW 167: Obama Immigration Amnesty, Jerusalem Violence, Ferguson Mo Decision

WNW 167: Obama Immigration Amnesty, Jerusalem Violence, Ferguson Mo DecisionBy Greg Hunter’s USAWatchdog.com (11/21/14)

President Obama, who many are now calling emperor, has made millions of illegal aliens legal with the stroke of his pen. Some in Congress say the time is up and something had to be done, but that is not how our government works. Obama says he is within his power, while Republicans in the House and Senate say the Constitution clearly says he is not. Expect another flood of illegal immigration on the southern border. Who is going to pay for all this welfare? What about the high unemployment rates among black youth already? I don’t think Obama or the Democrats care about these folks. The Democratic Party has such bad policies they do not want to change that they have resorted to importing millions of desperate future voters. This way, they can keep going with bad policies that most Americans do not like or want. Even Oregon, the bluest of blue states, overwhelmingly voted down giving illegal immigrants driver’s licenses.

The President went on TV to explain his unconstitutional amnesty plan for illegals, and the first thing I thought about was Obama Care. I no longer believe a single word the President says. I am sure I am not alone. Did Obama explain his illegal immigration policy the way he explained Obama Care? That is now the biggest policy fraud in U.S. history with many, many concocted lies that the President and Democrat leaders crafted with the help of Jonathan Gruber. By the way, the enormous policy lie to get Obama Care passed is what folks need to focus on, not that Gruber repeatedly called American voters “stupid.”

Violence has erupted again in Israel. This time, it is at a synagogue where five people, including some rabbis, were killed by gun and meat cleaver wielding Palestinians. The attackers were killed, but the violence is far from over. The fight is concerning a holy site in Jerusalem. It is really one that both Jews and Muslims claim. The battle is ongoing and, at its heart, is really about land and who has a right to be on it. This is going to get much worse before it gets better and turn in to all-out war.

In Ferguson, Missouri, the Governor activated a State of Emergency and called in the National Guard on Tuesday of this week. I guess that was the big tipoff that Officer Wilson would not be charged by a Grand Jury in the Michael Brown shooting case. Weeks ago, the Holder Justice Department also gave us a tipoff when it said it would not pursue civil rights charges against Officer Wilson. The local news here in Missouri gave many more details than you heard on national media. For example, there was lots of blood evidence inside Wilson’s patrol car. The blood was from Brown. Also, tens of thousands of dollars have already been raised via internet groups that are supposed to be used if Wilson is prosecuted for the death of Brown.

Finally, the drought in the Midwest is nonexistent. In fact, the farmers here complained there was too much rain, and that damaged some of the crops at harvest time. Still, farmers had a good year. Out west is a totally different story, particularly California. Everybody thinks of Hollywood and moving making in the Golden State, but agriculture is very big there. All parts of California are in some sort of drought level. About 75% of the state is suffering from the highest drought level, and there is no end in sight. It will affect the rest of the country and the world in terms of food and food prices.

Join Greg Hunter as he analyzes these stories and more in the Weekly News Wrap-Up.

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  1. Al

    Barry becomes the first Illegal Alien President,
    Barry Illegally makes Illegal Aliens legal,
    Barry Pardons his Illegal Attorney General (when he comes up on charges)
    Barry Pardons Illegals,
    Barry Pardons himself!
    President Lawless, the great destroyer.
    America, you got what you’ve been asking for. Your own god; the son of the devil.
    And he justifies everything he does, in his own mind, just you false “Christians” who serve Satan.

    You asked for him,
    You Got him,
    the Devil!

    • Silence is Golden

      Spot on Al.
      That’s the detail but take a step back and you can see the truth in a big picture sense:
      Their MO (BO is a puppet) is to break down the existing structure to the point where the population will cry out for order, they will emerge as the “Rulers” and will have the world that they seek.
      Ordo Ab Chao ..!!

  2. vincent_g

    On one side our government is supporting lower wages.
    They do it via the open border and the H1B Visa.
    They also support it by doing nothing as our companies hire people overseas.
    Support based jobs are mostly people in India.
    Telephone information jobs again India

    But on the other hand they also want high prices for housing.

    So the plan for the past 20 years was high price housing and lower wages.

    So this resulted in lower income tax and higher Welfare / food stamp costs.

    Lower wages did not stop at the so called jobs Americans didn’t want to do.
    The minimum wage jobs.
    No no no it went up the ladder to the middle class jobs and higher.

    Programmers that were getting $80 per hour were under cut by low cost workers from India via the H1B visa.

    Companies that called themselves Consulting Companies were paying these workers $20 per hour while billing the company that contracted them $60 per hour.
    Yes Chase Manhattan Bank among others were paying $60 er hour for workers from India that got $20 per hour.

    So we are now 20 years later and little has changed.

    There is no border under this system and how it can continue with a ever increasing housing and medical cost with income across the board for 90% of Americans going down is beyond me.

    As to the health care bill.
    The President has broken the law!
    He conned the people into this health care law.
    He’s a Con Artist yet they will say he lied.
    Nothing serious just a white lie which was necessary to pass the bill.

    What is a con artist?
    persuade (someone) to do or believe something, typically by use of a deception.
    “I conned him into giving me your home number”

    But your not going to use this word to describe him.
    Why – because it’s accepted to lie to gain your vote!!!
    Nancy Pelosi said “he just said that to get elected” when asked about why Obama is not doing what he said he would do.

    I see – so it’s normal to lie – say anything the stupid people want to hear.
    But never let the stupid people hear you call them stupid.

    From my viewpoint this can only be called FUBAR

    I don’t know if I should laugh or cry.

  3. Jim H

    Thanks Greg and Gerald. (from yesterday. not sure if posted)
    Two videos. Enough said.http://12160.info/profiles/blogs/great-news-jekyll-island-new-documentary-exposing-rotschilds?overrideMobileRedirect=1
    While I do not believe any for profit system will ever make the 99% world a better place, these videos are two that best teach us the problem.
    Greg, thanks for not towing any party line and for allowing differing voices on your site. You have helped me learn one of life’s most important lessons, that nothing will stunt the growth of a person more than “contempt prior to investigation. HAPPY FRIDAY!

    • Saint Lawrence

      Jim H
      Right on,
      but money is just one of the tools used by Federalists-Statists-Oligarchs.
      Refer to:

      minute 5
      seconds 30
      on statism.

      Do you pay taxes and real estate taxes and sales taxes and interest …
      Here is why:
      George Carlin – You have owners

      United States Code 26 section 7201 (page 5944) IRS
      if you try on any year to “evade or defeat any tax imposed by this title
      or the payment thereof shall, in addition to other penalties provided by law,
      be guilty of a felony and,
      upon conviction thereof, shall be fined not more than $100,000 or imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both…”

      • Jim H

        Thanks Saint Lawrence
        Love Carlin. Livestock indeed. Great video. I’ll be using that one for my friends online. That could really be bad for those of us who fell asleep before the 5944th page. I’m sure they would chirp “ignorance of the law is no excuse.” Seems any country or person for that matter who isn’t all in for the march toward the IMF and World Bank is given the title terrorist by the MSM tool and all who drink the kool aid.

        • Saint Lawrence

          Jim H
          This land by the oligarchs,
          for the plutocrats,
          of the aristocrats.
          Red Pill … Blue pill
          the matrix = government, all the government elitists.
          This next film is part fiction…
          17:44 – 19:30 is HOLYWOOD movie,
          20 min to 35 min is pure entertainment,
          If you set aside one and a half hours:

          Remember the “agents” say anything but do the
          work directed by Oligarchs.
          The Law of the land is:
          1. Declaration of Independence = John Locke and
          Thomas Jefferson
          2. The Constitution of the 13 states – John Jay, Hamilton,
          Madison (Federalist Papers – pamphlets)
          3. The United States Code is the manual
          4. The Codified Federal Regulations created
          FBI CIA NSA DEA ATF …

    • debbie ciolli

      Wow, so true yet Much Much More…”HE” the ANNOINTED ONE” has been Using Not just the “Stupid” people, but People he was SUPPOSED to help in the 1st place! Yet, THEY ARE as Most of US ARE, WORSE off than Before “HE” the Puppet was Put Into The Highest Office along with Those HE Padded Himself with, Protected Himself With.. Like Holder, and MANY, MANY More..Including Pelosi and Of course “Reid”, but THEY Are just the SMALL people, there are SO MANY More, of Greater Power and Importance Pulling some STRINGS here, then factor in .. all HIS COURTS, and he and HIS PUPPETMASTERS have a Much Grander plan in MOTION. Turn EVERYONE AGAINST Each other, Divide by, Race, Religion, Marraige, MORALS, Pro Life or ? Classes, as in Destroying the “MIDDLE”, turn people against ALL Law Enforcement, tear apart and Break Down our Military Forces along with all the Borders, create One CRISIS after another, and THEY ARE ALL REAL, once everyone is HATING and Everyone is DIVIDED, well then, Conquering is ALL That IS LEFT. Guess what? The PLAN is pretty much COMPLETE..Our Finances as a Country are also a Joke as in the LACK of Respect and Rightfully so by ANY Other Country, Look to Putin, look to the Entire Middle East, killing Christians AND removing Christians from Our Society by other means….so far…I believe a Lot More is coming. Stupid people? You bet! But also People who are EASILY “MANIPULATED” and SOLD themselves for SO Very Little to BIG GOVERNMENT, who of course Made MANY Promises and NEVER had ANY Intentions of Delivering ANY of them, because they THINK We ARE ALL STUPID. Some have been awake for the ENTIRE “REGIME” and before, while others are FINALLY Waking up, but look to the Continual STOKING of the FLAMES for MORE “FIRES”…and truly, This “Annointed” one????? has done More Damage to this Country then I truly believe ANY ONE could do IF they had a Group of Millions and a Century to DO IT IN! Yet, still More Sheeps still Follow, Let themselves BE USED by This “thing” and We All Go Down With the Ship…this was always HIS INTENTION…oh but Not just HIS, like I said, he is the Puppet, He does have masters…Look how MUCH Power Has been ALLOWED to Grow and Not a Broke BUNCH of BAD BOYS either, these people are not Just Barbarians, they have TONS of Money, and cell phones, oh and Probably a Pen and a Phone..Talk about watching a Really Bad Version of the Titanic, only This time it Involves MILLIONS of Innocents, men, women and children and All can be ATTRIBUTED to SOME who want Power and Greed over ANYTHING and EVERYTHING else. GOD HELP US …..NOW.

  4. J C Davis

    Greg. Would the past, and present actions of the current president rise to the level of high crimes, and misdemeanor’s ? The next question should be will congress grow a pair ?

  5. Marcelo

    “This way, they can keep going with bad policies that most Americans do not like or want.” Let me disagree with you. If US voters voted for him TWICE (I repeat, TWICE) , it means that either they liked/like what he was/ is doing or they wanted/want what he was/is doing. In the XXI century you cannot say “We did not know what he was/is going to do”

    • T Stamps

      Marcelo, He was a firm believer in saul Alynsky. He taught young
      Barrack how to tell people what they want to hear and still do
      the opposite!

  6. Matt

    Ofc Wilson resigned. However, I am going to say ” Not Guilty” will be outcome. As far as Israel go’s, they can handle their matters. Immigration, well it’s cold here in the states and it looks like we are in a cold cycle that can last decades with winters becoming much harsher. Once the realization of the so called American dream is a fraud, I think some will return back, not all though. Organized criminal gangs will expand as well.

  7. Sensetti

    I believe Obama enjoys the discord he sows, his disdain for the American people is blatantly evident. This quote came to mind, it describe the mindset of Obama.

    Habitual liars invent falsehoods not to gain any end or even to deceive their hearers, but to amuse themselves. It is partly practice and partly habit. It requires an effort in them to speak truth.
    WILLIAM HAZLITT, Characteristics

    Thanks Greg for all you do. I read every word you write. Keep up the much needed work.

  8. Jerry

    Great to see you back in Missouri. You missed the record breaking winter storm by a few days. My advice. Stay out of St. Louis. Its about to get real ugly.

    Greg, lets just call the presidents immigration executive action what it is. A diversion and a stall tactic from the economic implosion that’s set to hit this country in a few months, if not weeks. The dollar has just about reached the top of the bubble that has been pumped up by Fed printing and market manipulation. There is no way on gods green earth that the Fed can continue to mop up the amount of bonds that are being dumped back in the market by foreign investors. It may appear that the dollar is strong because of foreign investment, but that is an illusion created by the Feds money laundering scheme through Belgium, and now Japan. Check the actual market sales. The RMB is the one that is setting the standard, not the dollar.

    Forget about the clown show the MSM is presenting. The real circus is going on behind the curtain.

    • Jerry

      I forgot to mention I had a dream last night. I dreamed that America had become a banana republic. You know where they print money to sustain their economy, and have a tin horn dictator for president? It was a dream right?

    • allen ols


      SO; “A diversion and a stall tactic from the economic implosion that’s set to hit this country in a few months, if not weeks.”

      DONT U THINK QE 4 will just continue the ponzi scheme, which makes weeks seem too soon.?


    • Silence is Golden

      Jerry , Allen…
      Whilst the continuation of “printing” and its repercussions are undeniable, the primary driver has always been avoiding Deflation. No Central Bank wants it ..not just the FED.
      This agenda is now turning into a massive socialist / communist program from which there is no escape velocity as there is no growth being created ANYWHERE, except in the flood of paper across the globe and in the escalation of Wars and increase in social unrest.
      We are witnessing QE to infinity…. it is open ended…no limitations……hence stopped with numbering the QE programs because now it has become “Unofficially” a socialist welfare program. Support the Bankrupt Government indefinitely to keep the masses from rioting and starving. See where this is headed ? The Government allows this criminality whilst simultaneously benefiting from it, simply because they are partners in crime.

  9. andyb

    Greg: It was obvious from the getgo that Obamacare was not about healthcare, but rather control. And not just some beneficial control (oxymoron?), but just another step in totalitarian control. Why else would there be denial of access, procedures (death panels?), the use of the the IRS as enforcer of the mandate, and the overwhelming cost increases that will further decimate the middle class. It’s almost as if the law was reverse engineered, starting with the totalitarian premise and then working backwards using tortured language and deception to achieve something that most feel is FUBAR.

  10. Mason

    Dear Greg,
    Great Weekly News Wrap-Up as usual!

    I have 2 comments:
    1) I agree that the strategy of the Democrats appears to be to import another class of voters that will vote for the Democrats in the future no matter what (in spite of hurting the interests present Democratic voters). But what is the bigger take-home message from this? The bigger take-home message is NOT that the Democratic party is the worst of the two parties (both parties are rotten to the core). The bigger take-home message is that the elite of both parties are feeding in to the globalist New World Order agenda, for example: impoverishing the American middle class to obtain cheaper labour. Hey, if you were a multi-millionaire or billionaire, wouldn’t you like to hire cheap labour from an impoverished middle class too? My point is: don’t focus too much on the party-affiliation (Democrat or Republican) of the corrupt politicians, because they are all corrupt. No matter who wins the elections, the government still gets elected. This is a quote from a piece that is on Casey’s Daily Dispatch (from Casey Research) which I recommend reading. It adheres to the principle from the New World Order that you give the “stupid” voters someone to kick out of office every 4 or 8 years, so that you can put in the other crook but with a different colored hat, that in essence pursues the same agenda:

    2) Ok, so you reported appropriately that the Governor in Ferguson, Missouri, activated a State of Emergency and called in the National Guard on Tuesday of this week and that Officer Wilson would not be charged by a Grand Jury in the Michael Brown shooting case. Ok, but what is the bigger take-home message from that?
    This is an open question. Is the bigger take-home message from that, that we are starting to see the real manifestation of the police state?
    Am I wrong here, or am I on to something if I phrase it like that?

    Kind regards,

  11. Paul

    Obama now puts five(5) million more “citizens” on the dole … this will probably add another $200 billion to the Fed Balance Sheet every year …

    With less then 50 million people working in the US this bill comes to about $4000 dollars for each and every working person … as Obama can’t squeeze much more blood from the few working Americans who still have jobs and can hardly making ends meet now … who is going to pay for all this new welfare?

    The answer can be seen in what Switzerland is planning …

    Motherboard reports: [Switzerland could soon be the world’s first nation to provide a basic income to their people. Instead of providing the traditional social net – unemployment payments, food stamps, or housing credits – the government would simply pay every citizen a fixed stipend. The proposed plan would guarantee a monthly income of about $2,600 US dollars as of November 2014; meaning every Swiss family (husband and wife) can expect an unconditional yearly income of $62,400 US dollars without having to work and with no strings attached.]

    So it seems clear that Obama will (just like the Swiss) use the printing press to pay for these “new citizens” … now add the costs for our new war (against ISIS) and supplying weapons to Ukraine (which has no money to pay us) and all the rest of the unfunded liabilities the US must come up with each and every year … and we could easily see more then a trillion dollars added to the Fed Balance Sheet “each and every year” forever into the future.

    Every trillion dollars added to the Fed Balance Sheet equates to about $500 dollars being added to the gold price … so in just a few short years $500 + $500 + $500 + etc. + etc. … and you can see where the price of gold is going.

    Look at the graph below … it shows the correlation between the Fed Balance Sheet and Gold … gold should already be priced way over $2000 dollars per ounce … the reason gold is kept low right now is simply due to banker manipulation … this will soon end when there is no more gold to lease … look for a re-set in the gold price very very soon.


  12. NC Gal


    I don’t have time to read or listen to today’s presentation yet and may post about that later, when we get back from our errands today, but I just got an email “alert” from CNN that House Republicans have just filed a suit against Obama re- Obamacare (http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/21/politics/house-gop-sue-the-president-over-obamacare/index.html). The article says (in part):

    ” “Time after time, the president has chosen to ignore the will of the American people and re-write federal law on his own without a vote of Congress. That’s not the way our system of government was designed to work. If this president can get away with making his own laws, future presidents will have the ability to as well. The House has an obligation to stand up for the Constitution, and that is exactly why we are pursuing this course of action,” Boehner said in a statement.

    The news came just minutes after Boehner spoke at press conference in Washington on Obama’s executive orders on immigration.”

    It seems that another war has commenced! At least it’s now being talked about.

    BTW, in the Bible, the number of the “Beast” is the “name of a man.” In the notes of one of my Bibles, it says that the number is from the name of Caesar Nero. You recently used a political cartoon that depicted Obama as Nero, fiddling away as the US burned . It’s interesting to me that the translation of the name Caesar Nero means “black emperor.” Since Christ clearly indicated a belief in reincarnation when he identified John the Baptist as Elijah (or Elias, depending on the translation) “come again,” it is intriguing to consider that Obama COULD be “Nero come again,” and that he is the personification of “the Beast” mentioned in Revelation. Just a thought. If it fits, use it. Otherwise ignore it.

    • Law Offices of Dewey, Cheatham, & Howe

      A bit of an aside here. Paramhansa Yogananda, the author of “Autobiography of a Yogi” and who lived and taught in the US from 1920 – 1952 also mentioned that John the Baptist was the reincarnation of Elijah. In addition he claimed that Jesus was the reincarnation of Elisha, who was Elijah’s disciple. Food for thought…

  13. Willard Ferch

    Just looking on at the age of 76. There will be peace in Jerusalem when one side or the other are all dead. Severe cooling, probable mini ice age, possible Ice Age is closing in.
    The last major drought in the South West was 800 years ago, which lasted 85 years, and the Indians left the area. I check your site every day and learn a lot. Great way to learn what’s going on, especially with the economy. Thanks a million. Fiddlin

  14. Mason

    The Netherlands have secretly repatriated 120 tons of their gold (or approximately 20% of their reserves) back from New York:

    Smart move, if I might add!

  15. Felicia

    Greg, great week of guests and nice wrapup. Its interesting how the MSM is trying to make it appear as though Officer Wilson could be guilty with the articles about him drawing up resignation docs. Those bait-n-switch news people are disgusting. Liars….damn liars..all of them. Anyway have a good weekend and stay warm.

    • Greg Hunter

      I am happy I have no bosses and only consider the people who come to this site! Thank you for your comment.

  16. J Medina

    Greg, I agree with most of what you said, but there are several things you should consider such as where illegal immigrants come from, why the government wants them, and my views. First, illegal immigrants are not only from Latin America, but from around the world. There was a report about two years ago on pregnant Chinese women who travelled to Los Angeles, CA on temporary visas. The report stated the women would overstay there visas with people hosting other pregnant women, give birth to their children in Los Angeles, thus their child not only become eligible to receive benefits such as WIC and medical care, but also gain citizenship, their “anchor baby.” The main stream media plays up the Latin American connection and does not present the full view. Secondly, I believe the federal government desires these illegal immigrants to become legal residents or citizens because they need a new stream of people to join the military, increase government spending, and increase the number of people paying into Social Security. There was a news report a few months ago that stated the government would grant citizenship to illegals that join the military and speak Farsi and I think Mandarin. Then the government will be able to increase spending more on programs such as the said military expenditure, the Education Department to teach the further influx of children, and other social programs. Lastly, the government wants to legalize these people because they would pay income and Social Security tax. There are two main reasons for this. The government would be able to tell its creditors it has more people paying, so it can borrow more money. Then, the government would tell some of the largest voting blocks, the retired/elderly and the 55 to 65 year olds (largely the Baby Boomers), that their retirement checks will continue. The government wants Ponzi Scheme to continue until it pops, then deny any knowledge of it or what you, Greg, said, LIE. Finally, I believe the present immigration system is a joke. If we look back a hundred years ago, many immigrants came here to find liberty, especially from oppressive governments and war such as in Europe or the Diaz government in Mexico. When these immigrants came to the US, many of them worked hard to care for their family, either by working for some one or opening there own businesses. These people were examples that the idea of America was great. Overtime, the government grew and increased spending, while liberty has declined and dependence on the government has increased. I ask you Greg and you audience to not only look at illegal immigrants, but also the action of the government.

  17. rrrr

    This amnesty is not about justice. It’s about destruction.

  18. Gregory Mannarino

    To put it simply and into perspective as quickly as possible. Just like the expansion of wars and refusal to secure the boarders, President Obama’s executive action on immigration is yet another dollar propping up mechanism.

    • Greg Hunter

      I am looking forward to having you on Monday.

      • allen ols


        remember to question in depth, hyper inflation, re; kirby, williams, greyerz. tks.

  19. Chip

    Good wrap up Greg. Question for you, who do you think is funding the organizing of protests in some 80 cities supposedly over the Ferguson incident? That money’s getting pumped from somewhere and someone with an AGENDA. Have a good weekend…

    • Greg Hunter

      I have no idea but the fact it is going on is scary.

  20. Stephen Clifton

    Why is anybody surprised by the actions of our government regardless of who is in office? This is the same government that has exchanged weapons for drugs in the 80s (and probably still today) to fund an illegal war in South America. The same government that supports authoritarian dictatorships (Saddam, Pinochet, Batista, Noriega etc.) while it serves their immediate agenda only to turn on them and invade sovereign nations in the name of protecting our “freedom”.
    The same government that has taken control of our health care system with the cooperation of the insurance companies in exchange for the guaranteed tax dollars and increased premiums to the lower and middle classes. Hey Congress, why are you exempt?
    The same elected officials who stand on the dead bodies of Americans to push personal power agendas such as gun control, healthcare, wars for freedom etc. Let me get this straight. Our only defense against our own government are our firearms and we are being made to give those up along with any other rights they determine a threat to their power? Don’t all of their kids have armed guards 24/7 and go to schools with armed guards but my kids aren’t worthy of the same protections? If the government puts down all of their guns then I will put down mine.
    Our educational system being hijacked by the Feds to pass the ideas that our rights are not rights but “privileges the Federal government allows us to have”. So much for the Bill of Rights.
    We are the frog in the boiling water waiting to die slowly. We are so busy fighting each other that nobody can see what is obviously going on. With every new law, speech, executive order our freedoms are being eroded.
    At best the people in charge are sociopaths and at worst they are psychopaths. Either way this isn’t going to change until both sides of the debate realize that neither party has their best interests in mind.

    Stephen Clifton

    “Those who choose to give us liberty for security deserve neither and will lose both.”

    Benjamin Franklin

  21. J C Davis

    Greg you site has produced more then you know. Friends I have met threw you are the best. From Deer meat to Gold. I cant send a donation of fake money, so where do I send gifts too.?
    You name it bother Greg . We got your back.

    • J C Davis

      You got a meal on me when you come to Nashville.

    • Greg Hunter

      This comment was a gift and a good one. I have a snail mail address on the donations page if you need one.



    Aside from identifying certain world developments, the Bible foretold that the last days would be marked by a change in human society. The apostle Paul described what people in general would be like. At 2 Timothy 3:1-5, we read: “In the last days critical times hard to deal with will be here.” In part, Paul said that people would be;
    lovers of themselves

    lovers of money

    disobedient to parents


    having no natural affection

    without self-control


    lovers of pleasures rather than lovers of God

    having a form of godly devotion but proving false to its power

    And what will happen to the wicked,
    have people become like that in your community? No doubt they have! There are people everywhere going from bad to worse and will become even worse as things, get much worse. This all shows that God will soon act, for the Bible says: “When the wicked ones sprout as the vegetation and all the practicers of what is hurtful blossom forth, it is that they may be annihilated forever.”—Psalm 92:7 And forever is a long time, thank God!

    Now Greg, that was short and sweet, wasn’t it?

    • Greg Hunter

      Amen MATILDA.

    • Paul

      According to Dr. Brandenburg the people that lived in two cities in the Mare Acidalium region of Mars many millions of years ago were wiped out with the equivalent of a million “one-megaton hydrogen bombs” … I guess someone didn’t think they deserved to live … now all we see is the scattered ruins of a once great civilization. The famous “face” at Cydonia lies within the ruins in this region where there is a heavy concentration of radioactivity. Dr. Brandenburg says he definitely knows that hydrogen bomb explosions took place on Mars from data recieved by instruments on our Mars rovers that have detected and confirmed a telltale residual radiation spike still in the Martian atmosphere. Gamma ray spectrometry taken by NASA on Mars over the past few years shows the telltale spike in radiation from Xenon 129. Dr. Brandenburg says there is only “one way” Xenon 129 can be produced and that is by “a nuclear explosion”.

      Where these cities on Mars the Sodom and Gomorrah spoken of in the Bible???

      Very interesting stuff … but the way things are going here on Earth between the US neo-cons and Russia we won’t need a moral “God” to step in and pronounce judgement on us to set things right … it looks like the way things are going we will soon be our own executioner.

      • Wahabie

        Heaven forbid Paul! Then again that would be divine intervention to! L OL

  23. Country Codger

    Hi Greg,
    Please believe me. I can prove to you that the site of all three temples (Solomon’s, Zereubbael, and Herod’s) has nothing to do with the “Temple Mount”. Forget the Temple Mount. I was never the site of all three YHWH’s Temples.r Let the Muslims have it. It was a Roman fort known as Fort Antonia, names after General Marc Anthony.

    Anywya, good luck and God bless..

  24. Table Rock Jayhawk

    Welcome to Missouri Greg ! What part of MO were you at ?

    • Greg Hunter

      Eastern part.

  25. mohammad


    interesting video by one of ISIS prisoners put on alarabiya website, he is speaking in the vid and it is worth listening to him despite the fact that he is under influence of his capturers:


    • Greg Hunter


      Very good stuff. I wonder who wrote this? He’s reading it, but very convincing. Thank you for adding this perspective.


  26. James Hastings

    Thank you for your work.

  27. Southern Patriot

    We should have nothing but utter contempt for this Marxist president. He never had our back’s and he never will. But, what he does have on his mind, is the total destruction of this Republic. Every thing that he say or does from his bully pulpit,is designing to hurt America! That’s what he had in mind when he talked about fundamental changes coming to America!!! Indeed, we “John & Jane Does will have to go it alone!
    It appears, that American’s has been given the green light to ignore what ever law they decided not want to follow. This he how I read his decision to tread on the Constitution. When it come to immigration!
    To the members of Congress I ask you, Why can you not defend and support the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. You did take an oath to defend America from all enemies domestic and foreign. You did take an oath to uphold these document,did you not? That includes this President and administration!
    Perhaps Senator Eugene McCarthy was right, that the Communist have infiltrated our schools,our government,business and churches.
    What we have is an invasion coming across our borders. You have to wonder if there is anyone interested in defending America? We already have a process for handling Legal immigration. We also have a process for handling Criminal’s coming across our borders! Let’s start using it!! Deport those who refuse to follow our laws, arrest the criminals who break our laws. And arrest anyone in Washington, including the current office holder with TREASON!!
    Greg,all my life I have tried to help those that truly in need and what I’m seeing is just nut’s. A 93 year old man arrested in Florida for giving food to the homeless. Senior citizens are having a really hard time making ends meet. What’s left of the middle class, & those who want to work,can’t find work. Our government lies about things getting better. They aren’t and they know it!!
    One thing in common about survey’s,number’s and polls. They can always be erased and changed, anytime a political party want’s to look better then it really is. That’s what is going on here!
    If they are lucky enough to find a job and hang on to it, there hours are less then part time. I know many friends who are working 2-3 jobs @ 10-15 hour a week,(if that) just to make a living. Several friends in there late 60’s are cutting grass and bagging up leaves to make ends meet. They haven’t taken charity all there life and there not going to start now!
    Greg, I know that your insurance rate went up some 60% and I’m sorry to hear that! Our insurance rates too,are being raised to a point that we can not afford it. They tell me that the insulin I have been taking will probably not be available in the near future or if it is I’ll have to pay more money then I have. Several thousand of dollars every other month! Liquid gold,I guess! There also telling me if I need any surgery I had better get it know,while the getting is good. WHY is that???
    All because those in Washington think they have a better idea. They refuses to listen to “We The people”. There idea of fundamental change, is eliminating non-productive Americans. He’s doing this by not providing medical treatment for baby boomers and citizens from the greatest generation. The government can’t even produce a budget and their how many trillion in debt. And know they want to play doctor. Give me a break!!The government is going to tell you & me what doctor we have to see and there dictating to us what medication and medical procedures we can have. And here’s another thing worth mentioning,If Obama care is so da** good, then why aren’t the politicians made to have the same insurance policy that they rammed down our throats,too.
    Greg,that’s how I see it. Thanks for all that you do. I think it’s safe to say that TSHHTF! Prepare for what’s coming to your state. Make your stand at your Alamo while you still can.

  28. Collateral Damage

    Friends and Colleagues,

    2:24 a.m. Saturday, November 22nd, 2014

    It is a sad state of affairs we find ourselves in (as a country and as a world).

    But, I love it, in the weeee hours of the night, in the still cold stony silence, when an embryo of an idea which has been gnawing at the periphery of my brain crystalizes into an understandable, cogent moment of clarity.

    Ferguson, Ferguson, FERGUSON
    Amnesty, Amnesty, AMNESTY
    War on Women, War on Women, WAR ON WOMEN
    Gay Rights, Gay Rights, GAY RIGHTS
    Democrats vs. Republicans (Don’t they have the same agenda???)
    Occupy Wall St. (i.e. Wasted Free-Lovers in Streets), vs. Tea Party (i.e. ‘Tea Baggers’)
    (Don’t they have the same agenda???)
    Police Brutality, Police Brutality, POLICE BRUTALITY
    (and to the Police the message is… [black population])…
    Your Mortal Enemy, Your Mortal Enemy, YOUR MORTAL ENEMY
    (to the point that the hospital in Ferguson is clearing out a:

    1) Floor for the Protestors
    2) Floor for the Police
    3) Floor for Police Families
    (and then releasing this fact to the public???)

    Ambiguous cases of Police Brutality, Highly, Highly Publicized,

    1) Cases Initially Portrayed as clearcut,
    2) SIGNIFICANTLY LATER, information released exonerating the officer.


    3) Significantly… after the election,
    4) Significantly… the WEEK of THANKSGIVING,
    5) Significantly… the WEEK of the year in which retail sales stores make their maximum profits.
    6) SIGNIFICANTLY… releasing the verdict (Not Guilty) at a time to create maximum economic disruption.

    I believe I have figured it out.
    After reading what I wrote, can’t we all figure this out????

    I think that it is really quite obvious.

    The base (and basic) goal of Each AND EVERY ONE OF THESE PUBLICITY CAMPAIGNS is to maximize division.

    To maximize All DIVISIONS within the entire society.

    It is taken as a GIVEN to each and everyone of us here on this forum that the global economy is on the verge of collapse.

    When the collapse occurs it is vitally important that the mobs in the streets diffuse their ‘concentrated’ anger fighting each other – blaming each other.

    Much better than massing in the streets, collecting pitchforks, directing their collective, powerful and laser-focused anger straight to the heart of the matter; Storming the Bastille.

    It is Soooooo much easier to stay in power if one can dilute that focused anger. ☺

    I love it when a plan comes together in my head.

    3:25 a.m. Saturday, November 22nd, 2014

    It is a sad state of affairs we find ourselves in (as a country and as a world).

    I am chilly this morning, sitting in silence, hearing the fighting in the distance. Chilled in feet, hands, heart.

    Peace be to each of you. Love your dear ones, hold your friends close. By now the fighting will be close at hand.


    Collateral Damage

  29. One world Government immgration policy

    Obama’s immigration policy make perfect sense if you understand or realize his one world Government agenda. They want to destroy all borders, countries and cultures. The small minority of the One World Government elitetist doesn’t need elections or approvals, as they do what they want.

  30. Michael Harvey

    Thought for the Day Saturday 22nd November 2014
    Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.
    Peace be with you on this day

  31. Wm Moulyn

    What a refreshing bold news broadcast! You have given me a new view of the events that are happening in the world. I really found Warren Pollock’s views very interesting a s well as Charles Nenner.

    Thank you so much

  32. William Betts

    It has become almost 100% accurate to lay the blame for 9/11 on George Bush and the Mossad. There are people out there that have all the evidence. It is amazing that this has been kept under raps this long. You have a very large readership that would like to get this info. Veterans Times editor has pretty much all the story. The neocons that control our foreign policy are controlled by the Israelis. We need a house cleaning in Washington. We need to take our country back and put all these people responsible for 9/11 in prison for the rest of their lives. The question to ask is, “Who benefits from 9/11?” Betts

    • Greg Hunter

      William Betts,
      Not buying that the Jews are the cause for all the countries problems. Lots of people benefited from 9/11. Everyone from the military industrial complex to the NSA to Blackwater and many, many more. That is not to say that I believe the official government story about 9/11 either.

    • Silence is Golden

      Don’t forget about the insider trading leading up to 9/11 especially on Monday 8/11.
      The CIA didn’t pick it up esp. the trades in American and United.
      Wonder if Bush/Chaney had a few “puts” in place…just speculating ?

    • Rick Perkins

      Who benefits from 9/11?

      ….certainly NOT the Muslim nations who were immediately blamed for it and had their lands invaded as a result of it.

      …certainly NOT the American people who post 9/11 have been legally declared to be potential terrorists and must submit to living in a police state with every move they make being monitored for the cause of national security.

      In trying to understand things, the question of “who loses?” is just as relevant as that of “who benefits?”.

  33. allen ols


    On the anniversary of JFK’s birthday, an edited video of the April 27, 1961 speech “that got John F. Kennedy Killed” was making its way around the Internet [1]:


    “For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence–on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system that has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations.

    Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, and no secret is revealed.” [1]

    It was hard to miss JFK’s veiled reference to the Skull and Bones society at Yale University, a branch of the Bavarian Illuminati, the Bilderbergers, CFR and the other secret societies that rule the world from behind the scenes, The Powers That Be (TPTB).

    G. William Domhoff, a Research Professor at the University of California, Santa Cruz first coined the non-conspiracy acronym TPTB. He received his Ph.D. at the University of Miami. He has been teaching at the University of California, Santa Cruz, since 1965. Four of his books are among the top 50 best sellers in sociology for the years 1950 to 1995: Who Rules America? (1967); The Higher Circles (1970); Who Rules America Now? (1983); and the non-“conspiracy” critique and theory of the U.S. power structure, The Powers That Be (TPTB) in 1979.

    [Excerpt from “Bones” in the Money Pit

    Our consumer society didn’t just happen; it was planned. Not in 1910, or 1954, but in the year 1832, the year William Huntington Russell and fellow classmate Alphonso Taft founded the Skull and Bones society at Yale University, a branch of the Bavarian Illuminati.

    Members, known as “Bonesmen,” include Rockefeller, Kuhn, Loeb and Morgan all connected to the House of Rothschild’s global financial empire. They are founders of the Federal Reserve, the Bank of England, France, and Germany or, for that matter, any central bank anywhere in the world. In theory, the Federal Reserve Act of 1913, one of the most important domestic acts in the nation’s history, took the power to create money from the people and gave it to the Bonesmen for profit.

    Russ Baker’s new book, “Family of Secrets: the Bush Dynasty, the Powerful Forces That Put It in the White House, And What Their Influence Means for America,” is about George H. W. Bush’s secret intelligence work with the CIA many years before he became the Agency’s director. Bush Sr. had played a powerful but hidden role in determining the direction of the U.S. government.

    It’s common knowledge that the Bushes sit at the intersection of America’s business and intelligence communities, but it not so common knowledge that the Bush Family, Bush Sr., Jr. and grandfather Prescott Bush, were all Bonesmen. Prescott Bush’s initiation in 1918 is said to have included robbing the grave of the Native American warrior, Geronimo. Prescott Bush helped Henry Ford, Averell Harriman and others finance Adolph Hitler.

    Russ Baker suggests the strong possibility that Bush Sr. was connected to the assassination of President Kennedy because “Lyndon Johnson would be more obedient to Texas oil men. [2]

    A more plausible connection is Abraham Lincoln was killed for the Legal Tender Act of 1862 and Kennedy for Executive Order 11110 (the CIA has been exonerated [3]).

    Lincoln’s “greenbacks” would have prevented the Federal Reserve from creating $500 trillion of money out of thin air, money that Warren Buffett and Market watch say financed our global consumer society.

    And, JFK’s “United States notes” backed by silver, which were withdrawn the day he was shot, would have put the Federal Reserve out of business and returned to the Treasury Department the Constitutional power to create and issue a debt-free currency.

    Anyone who spoke against the “Creature from Jekyll Island” (Federal Reserve banking cartel exposed by G. Edward Griffin) was silenced. Presidents Garfield and McKinley, outspoken champions of “sound” money and a central bank, were silenced permanently.

    John Sherman, a Rothschild protégé in a letter sent to New York bankers on June 25, 1863 in support of the then proposed National Banking Act, wrote:

    “The few who understand the system, will either be so interested in its profits, or so dependent on its favors that there will be no opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantages…will bear its burden without complaint, and perhaps without suspecting that the system is inimical to their best interests.”

    • Silence is Golden

      Was it any coincidence that JFK was wounded / killed under the “Masonic initiation” by being mortally wounded in the three areas of the Back, Throat and Head. This killing represents the persecution of the Templars and the together with the location (33 parallel) signify the highest degree of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, the highest Degree , the Degree of the Illuminati.
      It does exist and they have much to protect.

      • allen ols

        sig, cool

  34. Wahabie

    Fool, me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame me, try to fool the fool the world and you look like a foolish fool and you end up a goul!

  35. Colin - 'the farmer from NZ'

    Another great week of reporting by watchdog.
    Hope you had a great weekend Greg.

    The unravelling of the lies by the AAA and its complicit western countries regarding MH17 is accelerating now and becoming an alarming threat to world security itself.
    Below are a couple of links to articles written by esteemed investigative historian Eric Zuesse:



    As I wrote in my post on friday;
    We had the tale of the two towers. [except there turned out to be 3]
    Now we have the tale of the two Malaysian jets.
    It seems to me that more and more western nations are becoming


  36. Barry

    …these immigrants are here for cheap labor for the big companies that control the US Gov’t…Obama is more than awful, but who amoung you can lift a finger. None?

    They are there to create chaos if needed. They can be turned into the “enemy” to distract everyone if Obama needs an escape from public anger against his insane wars and economic failures.
    The USA has been taken over by bad people…fascism is the model.

  37. Faizie

    It’s interesting that you emphasized the lies that are forthcoming from the president and administration. Yesterday I had occasion to visit briefly with a farmer / friend that I probably see no more than once a year. About the first thing he asked me was “if I knew how to tell when the President was lying”. Answer — “when his lips are moving”. Enough said !!!!


  38. Wes Alexander

    Civil society is being consumed by the socialist state. Here’s a video from Hans-Hermann Hoppe and Mises Institute that explains the break down we’re witnessing in human society. We need more people thinking about a better way to organize ourselves. The democratic state has failed. Open your eyes and mind to something new. Highly recommend this video. Thanks in advance.

  39. Doug Williams

    News Flash, “The Netherlands just announced that they have repatriated half of their gold held at the New York Federal Reserve.” The question now is, for future guests is, “Who” came FIRST for their gold ? the Netherlands ? or the Germans ? and the question is now going the be, Why Don’t the Germans demand all their gold back now ? Also, if this don’t cause the Swiss to act, and vote yes, nothing will.

    • Saint Lawrence

      Doug Williams
      Hint: Shell Oil has well connected oligarchs.


    And much to the point I might add!

  41. Jeff L

    Paul says… ” and we could easily see more then a trillion dollars added to the Fed Balance Sheet “each and every year” forever into the future.

    Every trillion dollars added to the Fed Balance Sheet equates to about $500 dollars being added to the gold price. ” Paul, we are already seeing 5-10 trillion “off budget” deficits. We will be looking at 10’s of Trillions annual deficits soon…….. The point I really wanted to make is we will soon start going exponential instead of linear. Debt has a way of compounding. Truth be known, even at zero % we are already spending our entire tax receipts on interest……….. NC gal …….. “black emperor” ? The other prerequisite to being the anti-Christ (imo) is being a muslim. Got that covered also.

  42. Jeff L

    I would say that part of the plan regarding amnesty is to get the United Nations on our soil. Whatever plans are being made to disrupt this great country will now involve another country (Mexico) so (of course) we will need an “independent” organization to police it. Like a chess game, they have thought this out 5 moves ahead……….. Hopefully their chess game is as bad domestically as their foreign policies is.

  43. Jeff L

    Yes, MATILDA. Like your ” last days” post, very informative, short and to the point. I was already going to commend you. Even Jesus didn’t have to quote a dozen scriptures to get his point across.

  44. M.

    Disappointed that Gregg Mannarino’s interview does not appear on USAWatchdog.com Had to view it on Silver For The People. Are “THEY” hold it up?

    • M.

      It is now available on USA Watchdaog.

    • Greg Hunter

      It posted it last night but it un-posted this morning. I don’t know what happened? So sorry. It is up now. Thank you.

  45. Brad

    You need a place for your listeners to contact you regarding possible news stories that are unrelated to the interviews that you post.

    I have such a “lead” which regards Pete and Doreen Hendrickson (Greater Detroit Area) and their website, Losthorizons.com, on which they sell several books including Cracking the Code.

    Pete & Doreen’s story may very well be one of the most important stories in the last 100 years (that’s not hyperbole) and it is transpiring without any news coverage because the news is so corrupt and reporters are fearful to investigate highly controversial topics. The story is one of the most important battlefields for justice in our lifetimes.

    CtC (Cracking the Code) is a detailed study of the 164 some Congressional Tax Laws that are summarized by the Internal Revenue Code which (of course) is used to applied the Federal Income Tax. Pete & Doreen have shown the IRC legal definitions in great detail (you can download this from the GPO.gov and read the elements of Title 26 yourself) showing that the Federal Income Tax is an EXCISE TAX on FEDERAL PRIVILEGE which is very constructional (just as the 16th amendment is constitutional) and all of these tax laws and the IRS’s IRC is all of it very lawful and constitutional.

    Now at this point you might be confused. Why would there be a problem with someone showing how constitutional and lawful the Federal Income Tax really is? The problem is that a full understanding of exacting (and precisely) what the law actually says also shows clearly to whom the law applies – that is the problem since lies and deception have caused many to willingly (consent) to something that legally does not apply to them.

    I’m sure this raises many red flags in your mind. Who is this guy making this post; who are Pete & Doreen Hendrickson? It’s insane to think this could be true – Let me be clear: This is NOT a Tax Protester issue – Pete & Doreen File annually.

    Only a thorough investigation into these matters can open your eyes to the import of these events and this topic; an elucidation of the facts is what is needed.

    I’ve recently send information to William Black and Paul Craig Roberts. They should be aware of this topic and these events. Pete & Doreen have meticulously documented the truth of the IRC using Title 26 and using US TAX LAW and the very fact that the USGOV is going to such great lengths to unlawfully and illegally prosecute them is proof that something is seriously wrong.

    I’ve copied and pasted a note from Pete for your review. May God Almighty open your eyes.

    This Is All That Matters Right Now

    On December 10, the good guys come together, or a final nail goes into the rule of law’s coffin.

    LET IT BE SAID PLAINLY: Forcing someone to declare herself indebted to another party– whether by court order or threat of penalty for not making such a declaration– is not a legitimate, lawful act of any organ of the state. Instead, it is a corrupt, tyrannical act, and prohibited by the United States Constitution’s speech, due process and equal protection provisions.

    LET IT BE CLEARLY UNDERSTOOD: Compelling someone to declare a belief that her earnings are “income” taxable by the United States is compelling her to declare herself indebted to the United States (or to declare her agreement with material facts under which the tax debt then arises as a matter of law). Compelling someone to declare her earnings on a line in the “income” section of a testimonial document like a 1040– whether by direct command or by threat of a penalty for not doing so– is compelling her to declare a belief that those earnings are “income” and subject to the tax.

    LET IT BE RECOGNIZED: If someone’s earnings ARE actually subject to the tax as a matter of law, and the government is aware of them sufficiently to command their declaration on a 1040, there can be no legitimate purpose for compelling their declaration, even were doing so not Constitutionally prohibited. Such an effort to compel can only serve a government interest if those earnings ARE NOT actually subject to the tax as a matter of law.

    Earnings actually subject to the tax are so subject whether the recipient agrees or not. Compelling agreement with that fact is pointless as well as illegal. All the government needs to do is create its own return declaring the earnings to be “income” over a sworn signature– which it is, in fact, required to do by law if the recipient of the earnings hasn’t already agreed to the tax. Needless to say, this is both simpler, cheaper and easier than attempting to compel agreement from the recipient, and involves no Constitutional issues. (And again, it is mandated by law in any event).

    Compulsion of declared “agreement” is only of use to the government where the earnings in question are NOT actually taxable. Its purpose is to eliminate the recipient’s ability to dispute the application of the tax to those earnings, and allow the government to proceed as though those earnings are taxable as a matter of law.

    Declared agreement creates a false appearance of “no dispute over material facts”. The government is relieved of what otherwise would be its burdens of proof (or, more exactly, its obligation to walk away from the untaxable earnings and confine its attention to gains legitimately subject to the tax, in regard to which no coerced fiction of agreement is needed). The tax can then collected– improperly, but with a superficial appearance of legitimacy which is impenetrable by anyone not educated about the actual objects of the tax and how it is applied under the law.

    BUT THERE COULD NEVER BE SUCH COMPELLED AGREEMENT IN AMERICA, you say! Such a thing could never happen here!!

    Wrong. It IS happening here, right now. And you’d better pay attention and get involved.

    HERE’S THE STORY: In 2006, the government was faced with the fact that CtC had laid bare its then-70-year-old “agreements secured by ignorance” program. Under that regime, Americans had for decades been misled into declaring their earnings to be subject to the tax with no illegal compulsion necessary, simply due to having no idea of the actual limits of the tax and of the legal effect of listing their earnings as “income” on a signed 1040.

    Thanks to CtC, Americans were now declining to “agree” in ever-increasing numbers, and were routinely using those 1040s to instead demand– and receive– complete refunds of what had been inappropriately withheld from them in connection with the tax, Social Security and Medicare taxes included. In desperate response, the DOJ and IRS launched a project to test the depths to which judicial co-option would allow them to go in attempting to replace ignorance with compulsion.

    The DOJ filed a lawsuit against me and my wife, Doreen. It claimed that refunds made to us of what had been withheld from me in 2002 and 2003 were just mistakes.

    This claim was made despite elaborate IRS fussing over those refund claims before they were honored and despite the government’s inability to produce even an actual IRS “examination report” disputing our claims (it presented the court with a fake one, instead). The claim was made even though to this day– more than eight years since the suit was brought, and more than seven since the ruling for the government by the compliant court to which the ploy was entrusted– the government’s own Department of Treasury acknowledges that our refunds are correct, that nothing taxable was received in those years contrary to our returns, and that no tax has ever been owed.

    But the government had a “workaround” for these problems. It asked the judge to declare “findings” of every “fact” alleged by the government, and to order Doreen and me to swear to agreement with them by replacing our freely-made tax returns with new ones on which we were to declare our belief in the truth of these “facts” (and to conceal that these declarations were coerced).

    Further, because attacking CtC was the sole and real purpose of this suit, the government also asked for a “finding” that CtC claims that “wages” are not “income” and that only federal, state and local government workers are subject to the tax, and for an order prohibiting Doreen and me from filing returns based on these absurd notions falsely ascribed to the book. Together, the “findings” and the two orders would equip the DOJ and IRS to crow that “a court has ruled against CtC!”

    With not so much as a single hearing, evidentiary or otherwise, the kept court issued the “findings” and orders asked for (and entirely written by) the government. (In a hearing three years later the judge claimed to have somehow misunderstood our dispute of the government’s assertions of facts as actually being agreement with them…)

    We appealed, of course, but the appellate court responded by granting a government motion barring our memorandum detailing procedural flaws from being considered or going into the appellate record. This allowed the appellate panel to deem all the “found facts” to be true, and to therefore justify a denial of the appeal. The Supreme Court elected to not make our case one of the .007% of petitions received each year it would hear.

    THUS FREED FROM FEAR THAT A COURT would act to stop it (and there being virtually zero attention to any of this in the media), the DOJ doubled-down. In late 2008, it charged me with filing “false returns” based on the proposition that I didn’t really believe my earnings shouldn’t be declared as “income” (under the “wages” label or otherwise) on my tax forms.

    The government’s key “evidence” was 743 pages of government filings in the lawsuit. All were admitted by the judge without a testifying (and examinable) witness involved; the docs with all their government-serving allegations and conclusions were just handed over to the jury.

    The featured item was the ruling by the court in that suit, in which my earnings were “found” to be what the government had asked the court to say (and CtC was “found” to say what it does not). That was not enough, though– the government also felt obliged to deny the jury the actual statutory definitions of things like “wages”, and to have it specifically instructed to deliberate using prosecution-written substitute definitions which essentially declared my earnings to be “wages” (unlike the actual definitions), and obliged the jury to conclude that I must have believed my earnings to be “wages” when I said by way of my forms that I didn’t.

    NEEDLESS (I HOPE) TO SAY, no one who had read CtC was fooled or intimidated by this kangaroo proceeding (something doubtless helped along by the fact that even as I cooled my heels for the next two years, CtC-readers across the country continued to receive their complete refunds without interruption, rather decisively proving which set of definitions was actually the right one). So, in 2013, the government doubled-down yet again.

    In June of that year my wife Doreen was arrested and charged with “criminal contempt of court” for alleged willful disobedience to the orders issued in the lawsuit 6 years prior. That is, Doreen was charged with a crime for not letting herself be compelled to declare a belief that her earnings are subject to the tax.

    The first trial was held in October of 2013. Doreen defended herself.

    Faced with the problem of the orders Doreen is accused of resisting being manifestly unlawful, the government asked for an instruction barring the jury from considering the unlawfulness or unconstitutionality of the orders in deliberations.

    Even then the government knew it couldn’t get a guilty verdict. So it also asked that the jury also be told it needn’t unanimously agree that Doreen had actually committed either of the two distinct acts of contempt alleged in the indictment– one, failing to submit “amended returns” for 2002 and 2003 declaring a belief that her earnings were taxable, and two, filing a return the government alleged was based on the absurd notion falsely ascribed to CtC that only federal, state and local government workers are subject to the income tax (this was a return filed in 2009 for a $5 refund of withholdings from Doreen’s $59 of W-2-reported earnings in 2008, which the government, after its standard thorough vetting of her claim, had duly issued).

    That trial, conducted against Doreen by a team of DOJ specialists brought into Detroit from Washington to do the mugging, ended in a hung jury.

    This wouldn’t do for the tyranny-interests, so they tried a second time, in July of 2014. Again, Doreen defended herself. Again, the special instructions were given to the jury removing the “lawfulness” issue (even though it is a specific statutory element of “contempt” crimes) and sparing the government from its actual unanimous verdict burden.

    But this time the government also saw to it that Doreen was not permitted to make her Opening Statement, or to finish her Closing Argument. This time she was prevented from citing and reading to the jurors Supreme Court opinions on speech rights specifically declaring unconstitutional orders like those she was accused of believing herself to be under a valid legal duty to obey but violating anyway– the legal standard for a contempt charge.

    To top it all off, this time, in the closing minutes of the trial, the prosecutors produced what they claimed to be evidence that, contrary to Doreen’s testimony on the subject, the government had never actually pursued– and then abandoned– efforts to enjoin CtC shortly after it appeared in print (which of course, it actually had). Unable to prove that this “evidence” was actually a government misrepresentation until later, Doreen’s reliability as a witness and a key fact involved in the defense theory of the case appeared to be impeached. (Find more discussion, documentation and relevant motions concerning many of these unprecedented attacks on due process here.)

    With all of that, this time the jury returned a guilty verdict.

    All of the foregoing should be enough to outrage and make deeply concerned any and every adult American. Plainly, this is a horrendous assault on the rule of law, and one being practiced in order to keep everyone from learning about the most significant government scam and abuse in our country’s history– the systemic mis-application of the income tax to the tune of trillions of dollars scammed out of the pockets of their rightful owners and into the hands of the political class and its clients and cronies.

    But there is one additional aspect of this assault on the rule of law that goes even beyond just the First Amendment and due process/equal protection issues, and the purely practical issues of all that money being snookered away. This other thing, which ought to chill you to the very bone if you’ve got your wits about you, is this: The concept rested on by the government for why it was okay to dictate and command Doreen’s statements of belief was that she is only being told to say what she herself really believes to be true. After all, a judge has said it. Therefore, Doreen must believe it, too.

    Over and over, throughout the trial, the US attorneys kept saying Doreen was only being ordered to “say what was correct”. Their Closing Argument was little more than pounding on the podium and shouting that Doreen was told what was correct by the judge, and so how could the jury imagine that she could honestly believe otherwise?!

    Think about that, and tremble.

    An “official” has said it, therefore it must be true, therefore you can be forced to say you believe it, too– even on a legal form that controls who gets to keep or claim your property.

    That’s exactly the same sick and twisted crap we once rightly denounced in the old Soviet Union, where people who dissented against the party line were deemed mentally ill and made wards of the state, without rights. Here it is in America– if you don’t do something about it.

    SO HERE’S THE THING, PEOPLE– THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS NOW. On December 10, at 1:30 PM, in the courtroom of Victoria Roberts in the Theodore Levin Federal Building in downtown Detroit, my beautiful and good Doreen is due to be sentenced for the alleged “crime” of not letting herself be compelled to declare a belief the government wants her forced to avow, and punished for not avowing.

    Be there, making yourself heard and seen, and until then, be raising one hell of a racket with journalists and the legal community– especially organizations that profess to be “public interest”. If not, don’t cry to me when your turn comes.

    When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.

    -Edmund Burke

    • Saint Lawrence

      It is sad, but like dog dew – try to avoid stepping in it.
      Treasury rules,
      Internal Revenue Rules,
      Codified federal regulations (Especially cfr 26)
      United States Code (specifically USC 26)…
      Are all separate and yet distinctly interdependent;
      You may consult:
      CCH (Commerce Clearing House),
      CCH has been in tax law research and compliance since the inception of the modern federal income tax in 1913,
      2700 Lake Cook Road, Riverwoods, Illinois.
      Some who would try to practice theoretical law
      with or without a degree end up causing
      federal prison population increases.

  46. DiscoProJoe

    Instead of deportation, how about just *exempting* all immigrants from the minimum wage, child labor laws, and workplace regulations; *forbidding* them from receiving any government welfare, not requiring public schools to admit them as students, not forcing hospitals to accept them as patients, etc? And when they enter the U.S., just make sure they aren’t carrying any chemical, biological, or nuclear weapons, or any highly-contagious deadly diseases, and let them go about their business. More than 100 years ago, when America actually was *a nation on the rise* that actually ***created and produced wealth*** to trade with the rest of the world (instead of just sitting on its butt, printing money, forcing everyone to accept it, and collecting government handouts),…more than 100 years ago, this relaxed immigration policy was the norm.

    Anyway, to all you naysayers, I have a question: at what point in American history do you think the U.S. should have *stopped being a land of immigrants*? Just curious.

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