Economic Collapse Happening Now-Rob Kirby

3bBy Greg Hunter’s  (Early Sunday Release)

Macroeconomic analyst Rob Kirby’s predictions of a downward spiraling economy are coming true. Kirby contends, “I think the last time we spoke, it was in early December. I suggested that a window was opening where we were very likely to see some systemic breakdowns in our financial universe to likely start occurring. Low and behold, it looks like we are seeing the beginnings of exactly what we were speaking of. The reason why we are beginning to see these things start to unfold now is that everything we’ve been told by our financial elites . . . has basically been a lie or a false flag or fraudulent.”

One of the many lies Kirby points out is the Fed’s recent rate hike because the economy had improved. Kirby disagrees and says, “My analysis says nothing could be further from the truth. . . . U.S. dollar reserve holdings have dropped close to $1 trillion in the last eight or nine months, and that’s on a global scale. What happens when reserves drop means that foreigners have been selling U.S. government securities. They are abandoning the dollar, and if foreigners are abandoning the dollar, the question is who’s buying them? The answer to who is buying the reserves is the U.S. Treasury itself. Specifically, it is the Exchange Stabilization Fund (ESF) within the U.S. Treasury.”

Kirby goes on to explain, “Because the ESF is buying all these Treasuries that foreign countries are pitching . . . with off-book money these Treasuries do not show up in reserve accounts. This creates a real dichotomy. You’ve got these global U.S. dollar (USD) reserves dropping, but you have this illusion or gimmickry of a strong dollar. Remember, the dollar has been strengthening for the last 9 months. The dollar can’t keep getting stronger if the world is bailing on dollars. The drop in the USD reserves doesn’t support the narrative of a strong dollar. So, something had to be done to put reserves back into the system. . . . The Fed had to give the illusion of tightening and tighten once. . . . This is their attempt . . . to make their narrative sound believable that the dollar is strong and the world isn’t abandoning U.S. government securities.”

Kirby contends that a collapse isn’t coming but is “already happening now.” Kirby explains, “I believe we are in the process.” How has this financial collapse been put off so long? Kirby says, “I have been known as a conspiracy theorist, a tin foil hat wearing conspiracy theorist for the last ten years of my life because I said the markets are rigged. Now, a former Fed President has come out and said ‘yes, we rigged the markets.’  So, how are you left? Of course, they have rigged the markets, and the sad thing is the rigging is going to get more extreme because these people are acting and operating like cornered rats. Cornered rats are very, very dangerous animals and can inflict a lot of damage. . . ”

On physical gold and silver supplies, Kirby says, “Gold and silver are not as loved here as in the Asian countries. It’s relatively more plentiful here, but that can all change in a very short period of time. At some point, the available stocks in the West will disappear, and when they start to disappear, it will seem like a bolt of lightning coming out of the clear blue sky because they will be gone in no time.”

What is Kirby’s prediction for the price of gold and silver by the end of 2016? Kirby boldly says, “I think it could be many multiples of the price right now.” What do Kirby’s billionaire contact say? Kirby reports, “They say they think we are very close to the end. I don’t want to see the end because it’s not going to be a happy day, not for me, not for you—not anyone. It’s going to change the way we live–dramatically. . . . The rate of these seizures in the equity markets are likely to quicken and intensify. Future rate hikes are off the table.”

Join Greg Hunter as he goes One-on-One with Rob Kirby of

(There is much more in the video interview.)

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  1. Jim Taylor

    YESS! I have been looking forward to the Sunday Release all weekend. Can’t wait to view it once its up 🙂

    • Cole Davis

      Thank you, thank you Greg. You are doing a great service to those of us who are preparing for what is to come. Paradoxically your interviews bring peace amidst the economic calamity which is being/will be visited upon America, and yes, the world. I have been trying to educate and warn people about what is coming, but many are victims of self-protective normalcy bias. I fear for people, not only because life as we/they know it is coming to an end, but because they know not the Lord. Blessings to you.

      • Chip

        Recommend you suggest they watch this from a real constitutional scholar…

        Greg, you should get this woman on your show… Chip

      • Tod Mills

        “Paradoxically your interviews bring peace amidst the economic calamity which is being/will be visited upon America”

        In this interview ( with Doug Casey from October, 2011, he expresses concerns about 13-15 minutes in that our collapse has a good chance of somewhat resembling France of 1793, with lots of violence culminating with an emerging dictator. (whole interview is great, on par with Greg’s work but mostly on somewhat different topics).

        One big thing I see, though, is that in 1793, there were a lot more small family farms. Here in the US, nearly everyone is greatly at the mercy of the “system”, and that bodes very poorly for us.

  2. Thomas

    Good interview, Greg. Thanks.

  3. tulip

    gold will go no bid for the U.S. dollar….can you please explain?
    that would appear a long time away….(TPTB can rig….till the cows come home…)
    Thanks Greg

    • Greg Hunter

      Holter is predicting that at some point no one willing to sell gold for dollars. The Federal Reserve Note is a debt instrument thus the term “note.” Dollars are debt and debt is either repaid or defaulted on. Only two outcomes are possible with debt.

      • Bobby

        ” gold is not money” martin armstrong. I personally have tried to buy using gold and silver, NO Takers. So what will one be taking in trade for their gold?

        • Greg Hunter

          You’re an idiot. Go away.

          • Jim Taylor

            Nice! Greg you show that turd whos boss 🙂 +1 for Mr. Hunter

          • Bobby

            Greg, I have been involved with gold and silver before you were born. Yes I was an idiot when i thought like you.

            • Greg Hunter

              You are still an idiot. Go away.

            • Darryl

              Bobby, Notice how people ridicule you, but you never ridicule them? The one doing the ridiculing is always in the wrong… Although you made it easy for them, by making too broad a statement. If you put it like this: Gold will fall to $250 an ounce, before bouncing back to $700, then you are saying gold will continue to have some value, although not as much as most hoarders think…
              The super-rich have most of the gold, and if they want to manipulate the price downwards, to collect even more, they will… They can flood the market, whenever they want, and when panic sets in, they can quietly buy it back, for less. The man with the most gold, gets more gold, and the man with less gold, gets less… because like attracts like: Note the parable about the talents…
              Saying gold will become totally worthless, is saying the economy will go to zero, for everyone, so mankind will become barbarians, all over the world. It is going to fall slower than that, so many people will remain rich enough, to keep gold’s value at some reasonable point… But sadly, after the coming nuclear war, your prediction will be spot on, hence all the ridicule…

          • Bobby

            Gold is dead as a monetary unit. Get over it.


            • red

              That statement is only true if you don’t own one ounce, so tell me you don’t own one ounce…..heeheee. There is’ always hope you know lol…..

          • Brian

            Been watching you a long time. This comment by far is the best one you have written. Lol, short and sweet and to the point! Seriously, thanks for all your hard work

          • brian

            Well now hold on, this guy does raise the point that there are a lot of people in this country that have been conditioned to believe gold and silver are not money, and it is going to take a lot to unwind that nonsense; just as it will take a lot to get those same people to understand that we do not have a functioning government, but have instead a predatory carnival of deviant fiends and scumbags taking whatever opportunity available to them to profit off of the misery and loss of others.

            We really are left with only a few general ways of looking at things when we take account of what has been going on here. Either a vast majority of Americans are stupid and gullible, either a vast majority of Americans are amoral and cowardly, or that a vast majority of Americans have been simply overwhelmed by a wide sweeping, deep seated and directed effort to guide their thinking, shape their opinions and control their perspective on a great many things, with television being the primary tool by which this has been done to them.

            • Mark Maples

              I think most thinking Americans feel helpless as the slow dip into mediocrity continues

            • RTW

              George Carlin said it best: “It’s a big club, and we ain’t in it. You and I are not in the big club. By the way, it’s the same big club they use to beat us over the head with all day long when they tell us what to believe, what to think, and what to buy. The table is tilted, the game is rigged, and nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. Good honest, hardworking people continue to elect these rich bloodsuckers who don’t give a f**k about them at all….Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue d**k that’s
              being jammed up their asses every day.”

              • frederick

                Carlin was one of the good guys as was Aaron Russo and way ahead of their time

              • Faith

                RTW: which is why some of us have chosen to opt out. Screw them. Frankly, my dear, I don’t give a damn.

                • RTW

                  You can’t help but be cynical of the entire system these days. Some pundits opine that Obama and the democrates desire and strive for a “one party system.” Events show us that we are already there. The lines are so burred, it’s like watching the beginning of the old “One Step Beyond” show. Whether they have an “R” or a “D” before their name in inconsequential… they march to the beat of the same band.

                  • anymouse

                    It is a one party system..The Council on Foreign Relations..The Union of the Elite and Politically powerful. The leadership of both parties are members. Soros brought Obama to be figurehead, and Biden watches him. Look over their membership list–google it. They own the Banks that own the FED, they own the Main Stream Media, They have the controlling members of the Govt.

            • Madamarcati

              In regard to your last observation, the focused use of psyops on entire populations since WW II, you might find looking at the works of the Tavistock Institute and Edward Bernays, also Adam Curtis’s film series The Century of the Self, if you are not already familiar with this disgusting, ongoing crime against our humanity.

          • Lawrence

            haha Boom! youre done Bob

          • A. Hall

            Greg: Nicely put to Bobby, some never get it?. I have told you- in 2008 Congress met in closed door secession and was told the US plans to default on it’s debts. Congress knows what’s coming- that why they spend and spend money we don’t have, Doesn’t matter -$18 trillion or $25 TRILLION IN STATED DEBT- DEFAULT IS WHERE IT GOES.
            Of course- the debt is already more like $200 trillion- impossible to pay back.
            Default =collapse bomb.

        • James Hastings

          “a liberal” idiot. Always expecting somebody to take care of him. But, just in case he is just ignorant….you don’t think the Hindu at the local quick stop doesn’t know the value of gold and silver…..with dollars blowing in the street. Move out of the basement, get a job.

        • Anne Elliott

          You obviously haven’t been talking to the right kind of people. Jeffrey Parsons has bought a car (full price), the down payment to his deluxe home ($100,000), and half ownership of a Cessna plane ($600,000) with his silver:
          If his ex-wife and former employees (who went unpaid for too long) hadn’t dragged him into court he’d still be going strong!

          • Wayne

            Years ago I traded in a boat for a new 1990 T-bird. The dealer told me they took a horse on trade earlier that year, so its a matter of finding the party who is interested in the deal.

        • Ross

          Bobby anything can be money if enough people agree on it. In Australia, Rum was used as currency because there was shortage of currency. Spanish Silver Dollars had holes punched in them to extend their circulation.
          Rob Kirby is smart enough not to make definite predictions as many like Harvey Organ and now Bo Polny have been wrong. These Wall St criminals have come up with all sorts of tricks to supress the metals but their time is running out . James Rickards gives it 18-24 mths. I doubt it.

      • Beligarant

        Great Interview and really like Rob’s perspectives. I would only add that no bid means they will not sell at the existing CRIMEX derivative paper spot price. At some level of price, whether it’s $1,500 or $5,000 they would depart with their gold which means a re-price of the barbaric relic. At this point the brown stuff has already hit the fan and now flying through out the room.

      • tulip

        As Bob Moriarty states.. debt is always repaid.

      • Aaron Bryant

        Greg, what are your thoughts on the Baltic Dry Index being at an all-time low?

        • Greg Hunter

          From bad to worse.

  4. David

    A timely interview Greg, thank you! Mr. Kirby makes a good point regarding the end of this financial charade. On one hand it vindicates our concern, preparation, and positioning. On the other hand, we’re all going to feel pain and experience the existential risk that comes with an economic meltdown. The coming weeks will be interesting.

  5. Grafique

    Greg, thanks for asking Mr. Kirby about the retail availability of PMs. It shows you truly care about your followers.

    The wicked Obama and Democrat Party socialists/Keynesian globalists know very well that the Fed can’t hold this together much longer. When it does break loose, look for martial law, suspension of the US Constitution and “emergency” laws bringing us under the UN’s control.
    Once that happens, our guns and gold will be first on their agenda.

    • WD


      Please watch the Big Short. These people are not as smart or aware as you think…
      When this happens there will be no U.N. Be calm and fight back.

    • Chip

      Molon Labe!!! Chip

  6. Rock

    Home run ball with this interview. Thanks Greg!

  7. andyb

    So little time; so much still to do.

    • lastmanstanding

      andyb…we’ve all been doing our best to prepare for the inevitable.

      I look at it like this…We’ll have exactly what we’re supposed to have when it happens.

      We understand that with a little faith, we’ll
      end up in a better place and that none of us will get out of this alive. I would just like to see 1 day without these satanic bastards ruining humanity.

      I won’t be leaving my wonder life “without one helluva fight” lms

  8. Michael214

    Maybe this is where the US Dollars are going:

    Meanwhile In Shanghai Residents Form Lines To Sell Yuan, Buy Dollars

  9. Jerry

    I really hope everyone is listening to Rob. China and the BRIC nations have been unloading U.S. Treasuries and buying Gold for quite sometime. Here’s the reason.
    Its foolish to think that with the creation of
    – CIPS
    – AIIB
    _ Super Computers
    – The coming Gold Price Fix
    that they would continue to stay in the current system that perpetually hoses them over financially and puts a drag on their economies. Think of the present Yuan devaluation as a way of trimming excess financial fat in preparation for a marathon. As westerners we don’t understand it? In our world, if economy slows, we just go print some more money to make up the difference. China and the BRIC nations have never had that luxury, because they’ve had to carry our debt in order to continue using our currency for trade.

    It kills me when I hear people say how strong we are as a nation, and how weak China’s economy is. They always link that phrase to the “ghost cities” in China that was reported by CNN a few years ago. But guess what? We have a few ghost cities to. Have ever heard of Detroit? And while we’ve been busy creating money ( approximately 600 Trillion since 2000) the Chinese have been buying gold. And lots of it.

    Greg, I know Rob doesn’t want to tip his hand on who his clients are, but I would venture to say that his biggest buyers are probably located in the east. Probably Shanghai. I would also venture to say that once physical gold can’t be delivered to them that they will make the call for a Price Fix. Probably April 1.

  10. Beano McReano

    I think this must be the one billionth time I heard the sky is falling, the sky is falling…. Meanwhile the DOW has climbed up to 17,000 all these years!!

    • Greg Hunter

      Yes Beano,
      Former Dallas Fed President Richard Fisher just admitted the Fed rigged the markets to create a ‘Wealth effect.” Rigged = Fraud. Keep partying man. Everything is fine in the fraud markets.

      • anymouse

        The FEDeral Reserve is not Federal and is a treason against the American people–it is the instrument of the wealthy elite the owners of the big banks who own the FED and use its power to steal the wealth of the middle and working classes and shift it to the .1%, How? The UNION of the wealthy elite, the Council on Foreign Relations, determines the policies used to steal the wealth of America–Zero interest rate policy–Greenspan, CFR member, Rubin, Summers, Clintons, Bushes–all members of the CFR.
        This is no conspiracy theory, it is happening—even the FED recognizes that 70% of jobs come from main street small business. If the FED wants to increase jobs then why does it print money and give it to big banks and corporations who only provide 15% of jobs…IT IS A BIG LIE BY FED, CONGRESS, AND THE ADMINISTRATION BACKED BY THE SUPREME COURT. Interest rates at 5% support the savings of the middle class, retirees, and workers with CDs which supply financing to small business-JOBS-. It was reduced to zero specifically to force savers into the stock market to support the rich who pay off congress, the administration et al. THE GOVERNMENT IS NO LONGER OF AND FOR THE PEOPLE. IT IS NOW ORGANIZED CRIME AND FRAUD FOR THE WEALTHY ELITE..

        • Greg Hunter

          Won’t get an argument from me on the Fed. The FBI should be ashamed for not bringing a single case against a big banker fro multiple, provable global frauds.

          • Colin - 'the farmer from NZ'

            To bring a case against the Fed would require an audit….this may be tricky!
            Remember they say that an audit would compromise their work…..damn right it would!

        • Faith

          Any mouse: I agree 1000!

        • Colin - 'the farmer from NZ'

          You will get no argument from me on this one.
          The Fed has absolutely no interest in mainstreet or indeed of even trying to save the US economy. Their allegiance is only to their owners…. a cabal of thieving private banks!

          They operate in a farcical model in which they answer to no one, are not audited, and have become essentially a law unto themselves. Worse still, they operate under no meaningful mandates because the reporting of inflation and unemployment figures is completely manipulated.

          I have repeated this on WD ad nauseam for years [just ask G500]….but I will say it again…..
          Any other financial or social reforms you consider in the mean time will be as much use as painting the decks or altering the menu on the Titanic…. after it has already hit the iceberg.

          OOPS, hands up…. I just told a great big fat lie….the Fed was in fact, audited….in 1953….this is a very easy date for me to remember….. it was the year before I was born!

          • frederick

            Colin I knew we had a lot in common I was born in 1954 as well Cheers

    • Jerry

      Are you serious? Did you miss the DOW last week? It was the biggest opening year slide in history. This week should be even better. Go back to sleep.

      • Mohammad


        Wait until the Dow hits 23000 when the bond bubble busts ( slow leak that is).
        They will load that thing up to the ears.


    • Econ1

      Hey Beano – When I was a kid I could by a Hershey bar for a nickel. What does a Hershey bar cost today? About a buck. I know that one is most likely a tough one to understand but the chocolate is not 20 times more tasty or 20 times bigger; it is the same pretty much. The dollar today is only worth about a nickel in 1955 dollars.

  11. Solomon


    I was hoping that you would have Rob Kirby on soon after the first of 2016. Great job.

    When is the next interview with Katherine Austin Fitts?

  12. Faith

    Wow. Watching that was like falling through the looking glass and down the rabbit hole a long, long way. Waking up to the realization that this country currently has no rule of law and has a fraudulent financial system built on lies, theft, and manipulation takes a strong stomach and intestinal fortitude. I had not heard about how the currency stabilization fund had been created and to hear that fund is worth trillions today ,and is also off the books, is a shock. That fund is made of money from gold that was stolen, yes let me repeat myself, stolen from Americans by their government. Good luck the next time the government shows up to take anything from an American! What are all of the government agents going to do, dig up the back yard or back pasture or raze every old barn and workshop in the US hunting for stuff to confiscate?

    I appreciated Mr. Kirby’s comment about CNBC and the mainstream financial media that continues to peddle lies to the public. I eventually woke up to the cheerleaders on CNBC as nothing more than party apparatchiks jumping up and down to spew the goverment narrative. I find it interesting as to how the word “narrative” has crept into our daily language. Narrative means a story, the main thread of a story, and for most of my lifetime this referred to a fictional story and narrative was a word used by academics, namely English professors, to describe a text or book that they were discussing with their students. It is bizarre to find a word that talks about fiction be used to describe the so-called truth or main talking points of the government and main stream media outlets. It has become apparent that there is little truth to be found in the MSM or from the US government.

    Mr. Kirby is correct, when the tipping point is reached it is going to change everything. I hope that I am prepared enough. Obviously China has been preparing for years by accumulating gold. Sadly while China is buying gold in order to prop up their currency in the future the US has been sold to the highest bidder by the oligarchs and plutocrats in power. As an example of that type of power, there was an article on Breitbart a few weeks ago about Speaker Ryan and his brand new fence, built of iron and brick pillars, that was being installed around his house. That photo is priceless. It says everything about them and their attitude about us. They are protected. They are secure. They make the rules so of course they get to profit which enables them to build fences to keep the rabble out. Of course they have armed security, 24/7/365 that is paid for by whom? Oh that is right that security is paid for by the US Taxpayer.

    Long long ago and far far away there was a land ruled by a King and a Queen. They had lavish parties with all the right people. No expense was spared on the latest designer clothing, food, and interior decor. Nothing was too expensive! Until the Queen heard that the people were hungry and she said “let them eat cake.” Those fateful words resulted in the French Revolution and the Reign of Terror. That Queen had her head removed from her body with a guillotine. I understand that the public schools in the US no longer teach anything useful but a few of us remember the history we were taught or have learned on our own. Perhaps that is the reason that Speaker Ryan is spending so much money on building a fence. No wonder the president is in such a hurry to ensure that patriots are not allowed to own guns.

    I have wondered how will we know that the US has failed, financially? If everything has been rigged and the narrative we get as news is nothing but a lie and a fairytale, how will we know that we are at the end? I will be watching for the day that EBT cards are not refilled and are left empty. That will happen near the end because it is a cheap way for the government to control much of the population. Some of the apparatchiks did learn about the French Revolution, at their private preparatory schools, and have installed progroms to make sure the people are kept happy. A second indicator will be war and the need for massive amounts of enlisted soldiers which means a draft. Who will be drafted? I have said in previous comments that the next draft will include both men and women. A third indicator will be when store shelves start to empty and are not refilled and this is accompanied by higher prices. The on-demand delivery system used in the US is fragile. It works as long as everything is stable. Introduce instability and that fragile supply chain can fracture.

    A note about the failure of paper currencies. The US has had a number of paper currencies but of course this is not included as part of the regular curriculum given to public school students. Any student of history, certainly of economic history, knows that countries have used various means to dilute the currency, even when that currency is silver or gold. In the end people refuse to use that currency and it fails.

    • dbcooper

      Faith… You have got my vote!! Yours in FAITH and Liberty, FN, DB

      • Faith

        DB: As always, thank you. I have to call it like I see it and it sure isn’t pretty.

    • Mohammad


      I concur with this last statement,

      “countries have used various means to dilute the currency, even when that currency is silver or gold. In the end people refuse to use that currency and it fails.”

      The Babylonian banksters managed when they were in Venice to divert the attention of the fourth crusade from the holy land to Byzantine to destroy the coins and currency of the Byzantine in Constantinople, oddly enough they were lead by a “the blind duke” which no one ever knows if really he was blind or not. they replaced the coinage their with their coinage that is fraudulent and diluted it before they were kicked to Amsterdam which was another swamp that resembles the swamp of Venice (tunnels of water in between buildings built on it) and from their to settle finally in London and New York.
      If that tells us something it says that those extremely cunning banksters can do their bidding to any kind of currency and the gold / silver bullion is not a guarantee to be safe from their influence.
      I think Bitcoin is their next stop.


    • Dan

      Excellent observations Faith!

  13. Mike R

    Interesting perspective by Mr. Kirby. One question I would have of him, is that if the Exchange Stabilization Fund ‘possesses trillions’ as he mentioned, on the dark side of the ledger, what’s to prevent the FED from continuing to not only use that to buy $US dollars, but also to continue to intervene in US markets directly, using those “trillions” to keep US equities propped for far longer ?

    We keep hearing about a pending ‘collapse’, or in this latest mention by Kirby, that gold could be many multiples by year end 2016, but now armed with this ‘knowledge’ of the amount of trillions in the ESF, that is completely ‘off book’, why wouldn’t that be used for potentially months if not years into the future ?

    The facts are this:
    1. We don’t really know for sure if the ESF exists, and if it does, how much might be in it ?
    2. Nobody can forecast the future, though many are attempting to make (at best) educated guesses.
    3. Even if you own some gold or silver, or have some food or water stored, IF there is some sort of collapse, then you know for a fact, most of society won’t be prepared, so you’ll be put into a position, where unless you have some sort of massive and impenetrable fortress, far from civilization, the odds are quite low you will be able to protect what you do have, or live any more comfortably, or any longer than anyone else around you.
    4. Which brings me to my next fact: Preparing for an unknowable future, is pretty much impossible. So…. the best use of your time, is not only not to worry about these supposed horrible forecasts, but to actually go about your living and working today, and only worrying about TODAY. Rob could be right, but he could also be wrong. It can be hard to live with such levels of uncertainty, but there is no more uncertainty today, than there was yesterday, 1 year ago, or 8 years ago before the last financial crisis, or 16 years ago before the first major stock market crash since either 1987 or the 1930’s. Facts are, we got through them all. We as a country that is. We will more than likely get through any new one. So many of the pundits I follow keep talking about a crash. A crash is an event that you don’t know is coming. When so many are forecasting such a dire situation, the probability of there being a crash is inversely proportional to the amount who can supposedly foresee it. What really very few are forecasting right now is a major bull market for 2016. This may be very hard to see now, yet there is the possibility the Dow could end up 2016, at around 19,000, and the S&P 500 end up around 2200 to 2300. Gold may also rise concurrently as well. Those props could in fact occur, due to the existence of the Exchange Stabilization Fund, and the ‘trillions’ that exist in it. Nobody at the FED, nor in Obama’s administration, nor at the big banks, wants the markets to crash. If you believe in manipulation of the markets, then it is plausible to believe they can and likely will continue to do whatever it takes to keep the US markets propped for as long as there is this trillions in the ESF.

    Best of luck and best wishes to everyone here in 2016, that it turns out to be very prosperous for each of you, that markets end up higher, and that our country makes its way through any market dislocations that may, and likely are to occur, elsewhere in the world.

    • dbcooper

      M.R. … Good luck with that… DB.

    • Dan


      It’s also very healthy to question things like you did. In the absence of fully and honestly disclosed facts and figures, there’s a lot we just don’t know and can’t predict. Well done.

    • Dan

      Nice post Mike – it’s refreshing to read something positive. Best to you & yours!

    • freebreezer

      Mike R – My parents raised me on the advice to save as if you are going to live to hundred and live life as if you will not see tomorrow … wisdom is doing both. You insinuate that you can not do both. I think of food storage and water as insurance that I will throw away in a few yrs … same as car insurances – i.e. each monthly payment is wasted if you do not use it! Per #3 I think it implies bad advice and that you are wrong! Strong knit neighborhoods and communities and small towns will become that impenetrable fortress if shtf. If you live in a big, democratically controlled city well that is a whole different story if shtf! Prepared parents that want to protect their kids that are well armed and live in communities with other parents of similar dispositions will be one tough cookie to take (Defense is much easier then offense when it comes to “to eat or not to eat”)! I personally do not see that happening, but history teaches that a whole, whole lot of bad is possible. And tonight, I am going out to nice dinner with my wife as I usually do most Mondays … doing both per enjoying life and being prepared is not mutually independant and is rather easy! Same applies to investing.

      • Mike R

        Freebree – I’m an Eaglescout, 1976. For more than 40 years, so I think I know a thing or two about being ‘prepared.’ My point was there is only so much preparation that can be done, and it is quite possible you could be preparing for the wrong eventuality without all of the facts. There comes a time, when you just have to man up, and learn to adapt to uncertainty. We face that in spades today. Often times, as I have learned in my short 54 years on the planet, things don’t turn out nearly as bad as we anticipate them to be. My gut tells me, that most folks visiting this web-site following Greg, are probably people who are well prepared by their nature. They wish to be informed, which is why they are attracted to this web-site. At the same time, if everyone that Greg has on here, like Mr. Kirby is saying virtually the same thing, there is some risk of confirmation bias, which can actually serve to create possible ‘blind spot’ to all the possibilities. By asking the questions that I did, that I seriously don’t have the answers to, it presents to the website visitors, that there are things we don’t know, and aren’t privy to, and furthermore, there remains the possibility that the ‘trillions’ that Mr. Kirby spoke of, that are in the ESF, could be utilized to forestall the doom that many here seem awfully certain of. It certainly doesn’t hurt to have some of the basics on hand, for any type of event, however at some point when you talk about the type of collapse that some folks are forecasting here, and seriously anticipating, you probably couldn’t build a supply stash, or fortress, large enough, to last as long as the outcome of a collapse might require in terms of surviving to the other end. Meanwhile, what if, much of the resources (funds) and time you spent for being ‘prepped’, inadvertently took your eyes off the opportunities that otherwise present themselves, or kept your ample ‘rainy day’ funds tied up in a way, that you’d miss being able to take advantage of an opportunity that could benefit both you and your loved ones ?

        What I implied by my entire message, was simply to be open to the possibility that things might not be that bad in 2016. Sometimes it seems ‘darkest before the dawn.’ More importantly, I was wishing everyone here well, including you, a good and hopefully prosperous 2016.

  14. Itt

    The poll, US Constitution vs. Shria Law, there are bits and pieces in both that would bring a great society [not FDRs pipe drama].

    Major items that must be changed, and changed soon: The foolishness of “rehabilitating” felons that use guns, only to repeat crimes their entire life, they need execution on third strike. The end of taxing legal working citizens, make the million dollar plus corporations pay for the entire show, their lawyers write all the laws anyway. The end of the FED. The end of usury. The end of immigration in times where less than 80% are participating in the work force. The end of entitlements for all those not disabled, not of retirement age that are able to feed themselves. The end of supporting other nations with US taxpayer money, food, soldiers or war materials.

    A fella that earns $8.00, is it really just to charge any tax when corporations are running free of taxation, including sweetheart deals where their property tax on their building are being waived locally… and the poor guy with a $100k house is paying $5k yr property tax.

  15. James

    Be good for the USD to die. I’d like to see the government totally broke and out of business.
    Better now than later. Sure, they’ll be chaos and death. Better we settle this ourselves than let Muslims do it for us. Let the dollar die!

    • Faith

      James, I agree. The US is no longer ruled by the constitution which means the US is a lawless country ruled by money and elites that are allowed to ruthlessly expoit the people for their own personal gain. I find that abhorrent and I will never forget how these people, and some corporations, have badly abused and misused the public trust.

  16. James Hastings

    Ditto Jim Taylor. Been waiting all day. Turned the sound off on Washington / Green Bay Game to listen.

    I love this guy. We think alike. It won’t be pretty. Being dragged to the wood shed never was. My father used a belt…..this is going to be a bar fight.

    I buy gold in 1/10 oz., 1/2 oz, and 1 oz. eagle coins when the funds are available. No problem in purchases. Silver is usually mixed bag pre-65 american currency. It’s easy. Yes, I take delivery.

    Food, go to the store, buy an extra $50 each week in canned food, 20 lb. bags of rice, etc… and work this into your meal plan and get prepared for disruptions.

    Buy several weapons for personal defense, 1000 rounds for each, set some cash aside and think about surviving a utilities shut down.

    Food, water, shelter and self defense. Gold and silver to transfer wealth into a new millennium and cash around the house till it becomes obama paper in the out house. This made my day. 🙂

    • Bobby

      so Jim, are you going to kill your neighbor when he comes by for food for his family?

      • southernpatriot

        I for one will not hurt you or my neighbor for a can of food or a drink or water. Our home has been a life boat for our son’s Jason & Jamie who have passed away and have gone to be our Lord. From their birth until the time they went to be with the Lord, we did our best to keep them content and happy. To that end, we will try to help the John & Jane Does that come to our doors.
        The problems facing us today are man made problems that seek divine intervention! Once again we are about to be kicked out of the garden. This family blessing’s came from many earthly angles that opened up God’s world for both our boy’s to see and hear. Perhaps you too have been a witnessed to those same angles thru some of your walks with pain and sufferings.
        In reading the history of George Washington,he and member’s of the Continental Congress came to New York, near ground zero to pray for the New Republic. A covenant between God and his people was established, if only the people would remember thy name as the one and only God, he would Bless the Republic. In honor of the covenant, Sycamore trees where planted in the vicinity of ground zero. On 9/11, those very trees protected the church that stood near the twin towers from destruction. They were replaced with Cedar trees by the government and the political leaders came and told the world that they would rebuild what had fallen! I have read that those trees have die and had to be torn out by there roots. This story is told by Rabbi Jonathan Chan in his book the Harbinger. It seems after sharing with you what this family has gone thru and lost, this father is a Religious man after all, and his family is following in his footsteps.
        The prudent person has to be prepared with a sampling of everything that is on the menu with basic survival food and gear.It seems the bunch in Washington are bent on destroying our nation. They no longer have our backs. We need to be ready,have extra lamp oil on hand and serve your Lord here on earth by helping out those who are hungry and who thrust. I truly do not want to meet my maker and try to explain why I would not help out his people in their final hours. I can not see trading my soul for not giving a can of beans and a bottle of water to those in need. Peace be with all of Greg’s reader’s and Greg himself. Indeed Greg you are a very talented person who himself (and I don’t think he knows this) is a life line thru trouble water. Blessing SP

      • James Hastings

        No. But I wont support those who voted for this mess. Why should I reward their behavior. If it does’t kill them, it will make them stronger….smarter. 🙂 No, not unless they get pushy.

      • Chip


      • anni

        your still an idiot, stay away

      • dbcooper

        BB, Get a grip… probably yes and this is judgment call a lot of us are going to have to make or die. DB.

    • Da Diz

      As did my father…… better learning and growing experience.

  17. Paul Mallinson

    Greg, if ‘the rest of the world” is baling out of US securities (dollars) and the US treasury is buying them, then what currency are they settling in? It can’t be US$ because ‘the rest of the world ‘is getting out of dollars’! I wouldn’t think they would have the foreign currency reserves (1 trillion was mentioned) to settle with instead of US$?? The Fed can’t print foreign currencies! I’m not sure how to interpret what Rob was talking about.
    Thanks for all your efforts. You have some great speakers.

    • Jerry

      Maybe this will help.

      • Paul Mallinson

        Thanks. I understand the points being made but they don’t answer the point I was making. One answer is they may use the dollars to buy gold but otherwise I can’t see how they can get rid of all those dollars. Maybe some into other currencies but not all?? Further down in these comments someone does make the point that dollars are still needed.

        • andyb

          Dollars will be needed when you run out of toilet paper.

      • Chip

        Oh! Ouch! My ribs hurt from laughing MAO!!! Thanks for sharing that Jerry… Chip

    • JC Davis

      Paul M. I listened to a interview that explained China is dumping there dollars into the AIIB . You have a very good question. Treasury’s get moved around and exchanges for goods also.

  18. Eric

    I understand why Greg asks Rob the question, “What will the price of gold be at the end of 2016.” Because everyone alive today only knows a world which included dollar supremacy.

    But at this point, we need to start making the mental transition and begin thinking like citizens of third world countries who know gold to be real money.

    We don’t ask Rob what the value of gold will be at the end of 2016, priced in confederate dollars. Because the confederate dollar now has only collector value and is no longer used as a unit of exchange. Accordingly, the value of gold priced in confederate dollars is INFINITY. Even those of us who believe in precious metals, find it hard to imagine this one day happening with Federal Reserve Notes, but that is where we are headed.

    If you hold gold and silver, don’t take on the mindset that you are going to use it during the crisis, to get by. You don’t want to sell it during the crisis — for you may then be no better off than those who never had any to begin with. You must hold it for the duration of the crisis and emerge out the other side. Only when new forms of currency exist, that are backed by hard assets, should you consider re-monetizing it.

    Until then, you should consider it the only real money you have.

    I want to make one more comment regarding why gold and silver is still available in coin shops across the country. Understand that a transfer of gold and silver is taking place — a transfer from weak hands into strong hands. Much of the available gold and silver in the world is moving into the hands of people or entities, from which it will NEVER emerge again. It will be used as a permanent storehouse of wealth.

    However, at the margin, there are still those who own small amounts and are willing to trade it. When the big reset takes place (which could be over night, on a random day of the week), I agree with Mr. Kirby that gold will suddenly be ‘no offer’. In other words, a trigger event will take place that is the ultimate ‘light bulb’ moment. Everyone will now realize that fiat currency has been exposed for the garbage it is and in an instant, no one who now owns gold will be willing to part with it.

    That includes the coin dealer, who will suddenly realize that the small amount of gold and silver they have in inventory is their only real wealth. They will not sell their inventory and neither will those who reached this understanding some time ago.

    The point being that you are being given a unique opportunity to continue to accumulate gold and silver, while you still can. We are the lucky ones — that are salaries and savings are dollar denominated and that the world has not quite caught on to the charade. But the wake up call is coming.

    • Faith

      I was not alive but certainly my parents and grandparents lived when the British pound was the world reserve currency. That did not change until the Bretton Woods agreement. Certainly there are Brits alive that would dispute your claim and some Amercians.

  19. Don

    Thanks Greg, Mr. Kirby has a good understanding of the dark forces behind the fiat currency system. If I understand him right, he expects the tumble to continue and some time in the next three months a break down to occur, leading to a more serious and socially threatening event, or a more extreme stage of economic atmosphere. Is that what you got out of the interview Greg? You did a good job as always Greg, happy new year to you.

  20. stonewall

    Terrific interview Greg. It’s obvious the people responsible for current state
    of affairs are losing control so anything can happen now as they desperately
    try to kick the can one more time. Because of their greed and social engineering
    we all are going to pay a terrible price. I especially feel for the young people
    who have had their prospects for a bright prosperous future flushed down
    the drain by criminal psychopaths who care only for themselves.

  21. michael

    Great interview, Thanks for the warnings, Greg. A financial crisis and consequence of “biblical” proportions will no doubt happen. Do you agree that preparation and actions of “biblical” proportions are needed to survive? Do you believe such essential preparation and action is explained and cryptically hidden in biblical literature for the benefit of the wise? or can the key instructions also be found in the newsletters and brochures distributed by the likes of Rob Kirby?

  22. Aaron Bryant

    We knew this was going to happen and I personally thought there would be more carnage back in the fall of 2015 but here it is upon us and my family and I have been, and still are prepping for the horrific days ahead.

    • Greg Hunter

      Bad stuff did happen and they, once again, covered up. This is why the Fed did not raise rates in Sept. They wanted as much Christmas sales as possible so as not to spook the markets and get a 1,000 point plunge like what happened last week.

      • Aaron Bryant

        Yes I agree. I just thought it would be much worse at that time than what we witnessed, but like you you said, the carnage was hidden.

  23. Jeff L

    “I have been known as a conspiracy theorist, a tin foil hat wearing conspiracy theorist for the last ten years of my life because I said the markets are rigged”…….. That sums up most of us….. Worse, being right in the end will not be fun nor $5000 gold a time to enjoy.
    You know, I used to promote being prepped and especially gold. Now I realize only God will save us…… I now understand part of the whole ordeal coming our way is to bring us to that realization.

    • Carol Smith

      Jeff L, that is a Wonderful thing you said. I believe there will be a revival happening at
      the same time the system is falling apart. Not so bad to depend on Him. I am personally asking Him what else I need to do to prepare or what loose ends need to be finished.

      In the scriptures He says that He lets His children know what is going to happen.
      Right now He is saying that everything is Upside Down. Don’t know exactly what this means, but we can ask Him.
      I am writing this to those who don’t believe there is a problem or to those who are asleep.

    • your fan in Japan

      I second you. This whole thing is, in part, a mental process, and I have come to think Jesus realized our situation, making his sacrifice, our rescue, all the more important. And this would tie in with Greg’s comment, fear not, on the spiritual plane, FEAR NOT. (on the here and now plane, I’m not so sure). Thanks to all other commenters. I just laughed and laughed as I was scrolling down- shoot my neighbors, righht.

      • dbcooper

        yfij, I feel I should qualify my comment … I have neighbors who are communists though they would likely not admit as much but actions speak louder than words and these same voted for barry twice and probably hope to do it for a third time. Believe me when I say that I have talked myself blue in the face for years trying to wake them up … to no avail . And do you think they are stocked up?
        I know a man who is way prepped and one day he went to a neighbors’ house and asked the woman of the house to look at her pantry … there might have been three days worth of food .. and he told her ” When things really go south the first place I am going to go is your house and I am going to kill you and your entire family”. Today (some years later) she is well stocked … the moral of the story is that my family comes first and as a farmer and a member of the gun culture I have killed a lot of things … but … I have always had to justify my action to myself before doing so and if my life or that of my family is on the line make no mistake that I will do what is necessary. These are the end times we are in and as one who endeavors to walk in the footsteps of Christ I am only so tolerant; I try to be as good a person as I can; do not lie/cheat/steal but I (like Greg) have my red buttons (communists & trespass) . It is one thing to give assistance to someone in need and quite another to bend ones knee to an aggressor. Yours in Faith and Liberty, FN, DB.
        PS, Back in the day I used to play bluegrass on the street in Kobe!!

  24. Mark

    Scary stuff Greg! Whatever happens I hope it’s quick so the long slow recovery can finally begin. If we fail to restore our Constitution and Bill of Rights during this difficult time, it will have all been for nothing. A real tragedy.

  25. OutLookingIn

    Crunch Time. Unwinding now. Signposts.

    Historic First: North Atlantic EMPTY of cargo ships in-transit.

    Another Historic First: The Baltic Dry (BDI) has set another historic low.
    Has now fallen 96% since it’s all time high pre-crisis level.

    ALL modes of cargo transport are now cliff diving, except that of crude oil. The world crude glut continues to grow as VLCC’s (very large crude carriers) now demand high lease rates as floating storage! Available crude storage space is now very tight.

    Panic flight to safety on Thursday January 07 2016, saw purchases of 4.166 tonnes into the SPDR gold ETF. Alongside of a massive purchase of 3.87 tonnes into the Gold Trust.
    Can’t find bullion? Get the next best thing? Paper gold certificates!

    • Jerry

      The information you posted is absolutely astounding. Ships not docking. No products being unloaded. How long before shortages begin? My sources in China verify everything in your post. The world is officially in an economic death spiral.

      • OutLookingIn

        Jerry, glad the info was of help to you.
        Yes, world trade has ground to almost a halt. Read Bill Holter’s latest piece just posted on about the global “margin call”. Fairly self explanatory. The end of the credit super cycle and the end of credit.
        To ship goods, world commerce requires ‘letters of credit’ be issued to the parties involved. These are NOT forthcoming. As in the financial crisis of 08 credit markets are seizing up. Won’t be long until they freeze. Days.

    • Donna S from Arkansas


      I work for a fitness mfg company from Taiwan. We are the US distributor for our company. Our product comes to us via cargo ship from Taiwan. Our shipments are getting to us just fine. Our orders have been steady and increased after the New Year.

    • lastmanstanding

      No shortage whatsoever of junk coming from china and parts east to our local hardware, chain and big box stores in Montana.

      I keep hoping to see it but not yet. We are closer to the end of the road than most of you.

      • OutLookingIn

        lastman –

        I think what you are experiencing, is the residual within the supply chain.
        Remember the most perishable items within the chain, supply grocery outlets at 3-4 days of product.
        As to non-perishable items such as “hardware” and “dry goods” (clothing etc.) the lag time can be an extended period. Empty store shelves will be your first clue.

        • lastmanstanding

          I agree OLI. Shelves full for now.

        • Jeff L

          What is being delivered now was ordered and processed many months ago. I would venture to say by the time you stop getting shipments it will already be apparent to everyone what’s happening….. Of course by then (a few months) we will be distracted with false flag attacks, martial law, cancelled elections, ect. Also by then only the grocery shelves will be on peoples minds……..Which just reiterates what many are saying in these posts.

          • Jerry

            You are so right. Check out the rail shipping index. It matches the Baltic dry index perfectly.
            How else can you explain this? No shipping. No orders. No orders. No sales. No sales. No taxes. No taxes………..= QE to infinity.

    • JC Davis

      Its just a world wide computer glitch.

  26. Pvt. Mushroom

    Mr. Kirby is a very intelligent analyst. I believe everything he says. mucho kudos to you Greg for this first class interview.

  27. Larry

    Rob is somewhat subdued from his last interview with you in Dec. I sensed that he takes no pleasure in seeing his projections coming to fruition, We now have confirmation of what and when its coming from Rob Kirby, Bill Holter, Jim Sinclair, Jim Willie, the Fed, and I am sure several other gold and silver minded people who follow the your site Greg. I wish us all well in our attempts to survive what will be a serious challenge to us all!

    • Jerry

      I felt that to. Rob came across with dignity and almost a sense of sorrow. No pretentious I told you so whatsoever.

  28. Sayonara

    You picked the best guest at the exact right time. Rob Kirby understands the driving fundamentals of macro economics and we are in for the one greatest macro economic event of our lifetime. It is now happening. Thank you for keeping us informed.
    I stand pat that there will be NO 2016 presidential election as this country will be in total chaos very shortly. Fear Not!

    • Jeff L

      Very few understand what you forecast (maybe they don’t want to believe-I don’t blame them)…. Sayonara, I’ve been saying this for years (you think I’m not considered a foil head?) but have to call it the way I see it.
      It goes so much deeper but people will not understand till they see it.
      God is going to judge this nation for turning their back on Him and Israel.
      That is what is really happening.

      • Sayonara

        Jeff L:
        On a macro spiritual level (which most people do not understand in the United Narcissistic Grifting States of America), I agree “God is going to judge this nation for turning their back on Him and Israel”
        In WWII, we committed the destruction of many lives because they were advancing evil. Today, this country’s narcissistic elite are facilitating the destruction of good and innocent lives to facilitate the advancement of evil, thus, this must be punished by God almighty.
        Unfortunately, there will be tremendous catastrophic collateral damage.
        Be Well and Fear Not!

    • lastmanstanding

      No con con. Let’s just go back to basics and clean the country up from there.

      Starting with progressives, socialists, communists and non Christians.

      • sk

        ….so Christian of you’…LOL

  29. Gil

    Hi Greg.. Rob Kirby did not give us his take on China and the goldfix.. Any reason for this Greg has I think this is very important down the road!

    • Greg Hunter

      Just did not come up.

  30. pat the rat

    Prep untill the last minute, good luck to all.

  31. Curious George

    China has been selling US Treasuries in order to provide dollars to support their banking system. The system is right now undergoing a liquidity crisis with global dollar denominated debt turning sour, thus a demand for dollars. They are facing a capital flight and I doubt they are “smarter” than any other gov’t including the US. They are going to experience incredible pain just like the rest of the world when this all crumbles.

    Dollar will be in demand until confidence in the dollar is shaken. That will happen, but IT HAS NOT HAPPENED YET NOR IS IT HAPPENING NOW. Just think about why all commodities are taking it on the chin, even though at “any minute” the dollar will collapse. I’m not saying that confidence in the dollar can’t be lost. I’m saying its not occurring NOW as many pundits here would like you to believe.

    Liquidity is being drained from the system and therefore dollar requirements will be increasing. I think the central bank especially the Fed actions in this next bubble pop and the subsequent response will determine the fate of the dollar. So, not yet but we all must be prepared and vigilant.

  32. red

    Once apon a time there was 1 Golden throne and 1 Silver throne…but only one of Each…there were 2000 Billionaires’ dancing and playing and buying lot’s of imaginary stuff off each other , with imaginary money that only they were allowed to make. Deep down though they all new a secret….shhhhh..that one day the music (the market) that allowed them to play with all this imaginary stuff would stop….and on that day only 2 of them would be allowed to keep on playing………… to be contnued

  33. Jeff L

    ” I think the central bank especially the Fed actions in this next bubble pop and the subsequent response will determine the fate of the dollar”………. The Fed is now powerless and when a few Brics decide it’s time, the dollar will be toast.

  34. Mohammad

    Asking for more supplies entering their second week.
    Seems they are in for a while.
    Prayers for a peaceful end.;_ylt=A0LEVr4XNJNWXl4AkcknnIlQ;_ylu=X3oDMTByMjB0aG5zBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzYw–


    • Jeff L

      Mohammad, you know how this always ends. The Feds give it a little time so the public loses their attention. Then they go in, with all kinds of MSM press (about the evil rednecks) and squash the uprising…….. Same pattern every time…… Of course it will be spun as HIGHLY gun negative…… My opinion is these guys chose the wrong fight. It will only hurt the perception of all patriots. My 2 cents

  35. Mike R

    The biggest problem our country faces is illegal immigration, and immigration overall. The cost burden to our society of non English speaking people, sub marginal wages, bad criminals who have no values or morals whatsoever, and trying to support these millions with welfare and free ( to them) healthcare, when we can’t even afford it for our legal citizens is breaking the back of this country. We stopped, paused immigration last mid century, and it was for good reason. We need to do it now and pronto. After that, we then need to take back our financial system, and immediately prosecute the vast majority of the bankers involved in the 2008 crisis, and then completely dismantle the Big 5 banks. Then abolish the Fed. We need to go back to $1 of capital for every dollar lent by a bank, and force them to provide reasonable loans and loan terms for small business. Protect our borders, and withdraw our troops from all countries. We can use the military to do that. The Navy can still patrol the sea lanes, and air force with use of drones can stay on top of needed intelligence. Cutting in half our military budget, will help us knock out the debt, in no time. Get rid of most welfare programs, and at most keep a modified social security, and Medicaid program. Cut our government staffing and agencies by 2/3 rds, and our country will then be positioned for solid growth 50 years into the future. I haven’t heard Trump call for smaller government , but when he does, and hammers that home, then he will surely get elected President.

    • lastmanstanding

      Mike. There is no way to “knock out the debt” it needs to be sh&t canned and whatever happens, happens…those who cannot be civil will be dealt with by those who want to be civil. There will be absolutely no room for misbehavior.

      All welfare programs must go and those who have always put a good foot forward will be taken care of by like individuals.

      The gub, smaller but needs to return to local then the states. By using the US Constitution as a starting place, we can look back at where we went wrong and not let it happen again.

      You won’t hear Trump call for smaller gub. He will absolutely NOT become president. He is the diversion that the right or conservative wing of the bird is looking for. He is saying exactly what that half wants to hear. TPTB are using him to buy time. Every day is critical for them at this point. The more crap on the wall that sticks, the better for them.

    • Lake M

      In Michigan, male Muslim immigrants may claim up to 4 wives as family members when applying for state welfare benefits. So bigamy is overlooked in their case. No wonder the US is a popular destination.

  36. helot

    Throwing this Anti-Federalist thought out there for consideration & contemplation:

    The Constitutional Convention Big Con

    “For a very long period of time we have had an extra-constitutional government, acting unrestrained by what Thomas Jefferson described as “the chains of the Constitution.”

    After the attacks of September 11, 2001, our government has engaged in systematic policies of torture, targeted killing, indefinite detention, and mass surveillance. It violated the rule of law, eroded many of our most cherished values, rights and liberties, and made us less free and less safe.

    Some of these policies, such as torture and extraordinary rendition, are no longer “officially” condoned. But most other policies—indefinite detention, targeted killing or assassination by drones, trial by military commissions, warrantless arrest and imprisonment without legal counsel, warrantless surveillance, and racial, religious, and other forms of profiling—remain core elements of U.S. national security strategy today.

    We have become an invasive leviathan state running out of control, with preemptive, undeclared no-win wars overseas, and a growing police state at home.

    Recently Texas Governor Greg Abbot has called for a new constitutional convention to ratify new amendments to give back more powers to the states and limit the power of the federal government.

    Governor Abbott is probably perfectly sincere in his naïve desire for constitutional reform but the totalitarian statists have been eagerly preparing for such a window of opportunity for decades.

    See [ Proposed Constitution for the Newstates of America ]

    Review your American history. America’s original constitution, the Articles of Confederation and Perpetual Union, was ratified during our American Revolution from the tyranny of King George III and secession from the British Empire.

    Later the Articles were considered unwieldy and too restrictive of power by certain nationalists who believed in a strong consolidated central government. The plotters organized a special convention to meet in Philadelphia in 1787 under the pretext of amending it. Instead they executed a coup d’état. These nationalists met in secret session behind closed doors, completely threw out the Articles and created a totally different constitution and a new mechanism to legitimize their coup.

    A passionate and heated debate over the ratification of the plotter’s Constitution soon resulted between the Federalists (the nationalist supporters of the coup document) and the Anti-Federalists (the opponents of the plotters who supported a decentralized federal republic of explicitly limited power to the general government with most authority residing between sovereign independent states.) They believed that was what our Revolution from Britain had been all about.

    In any new constitutional convention as proposed by the governor and others, history could very easily repeat itself. Delegates could easily get control of the convention through spurious/rigged delegate selection process or parliamentary procedure tactics and substitute a new document such as the proposed Constitution for the Newstates of America referred to above. In one bold gesture it would not only be the end of the republic but of any remnant of liberty itself.

    We are under the most serious constitutional crisis we have faced since 1861.

    We ceased being a decentralized constitutional republic of independent sovereign states in 1865.

    We became a National Security State with the enactment of the National Security Act of 1947, which among other draconian measures, created the Central Intelligence Agency.

    See [ Supplanting the US Constitution: War, National Emergency and ‘Continuity of Government’ ]

    See [ The Deep State: The Unelected Shadow Government Is Here to Stay ]

    See [ National Emergencies and the Subjective Prerogative of the Sovereign ]

    See [ White House Continuity of Government Plan ] Is this parody or leaked expose?

    I believe that two related but seemingly independent efforts of subversion are underway by the statists to impose a fascist government, one openly discussed in the mainstream media – naïve but well-meaning efforts (such as that by the Texas governor) calling for a new constitutional convention (but not how these “reform movements” could be manipulated for totalitarian ends); and the other covert and undiscussed – national emergency planning under executive orders and continuity of government directives.

    We had our “Reichstag Fire” on 9/11 and the implementation of COG, the USA PATRIOT Act, and the various Military Commissions Acts and National Defense Authorization Acts, TSA dehumanizing gate-rape at airports, and the widespread use of SWAT teams and the increasing militarization of local police forces, propelling us into planned chaos and engineered insecurity.

    Calling a new constitutional convention does not address the most serious constitutional crisis we face – that of the usurpation of power and authority of the public state by the deep state.

    Professor of International Law Michael J. Glennon of The Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy at Tufts University has composed one of the most fascinating and comprehensive studies of what many policy analysts such as Peter Dale Scott are now calling “the public state” and “the deep state.”

    The Harvard National Security Journal online article is entitled “National Security and Double Government.” Glennon contrasts the “Madisonian” public state described in the first three Articles of the United States Constitution (and taught in junior high Civics) with that of the covert “Trumanite” National Security State established in 1947 (and rarely known of by anyone outside its inner clandestine corridors).

    In many ways he is reaffirming what the great Old Right libertarian Garet Garrett prophetically observed at the creation of this monstrosity. Glennon strips bare any illusions as to where the true source of power lies. His descriptions of the inner workings, motivations, bureaucratic inertia, institutional loyalties, of this “double government” are brilliantly outlined. He conclusively demonstrates that although the transparent public face of power in the executive, legislative, and judicial branches may change with each new presidential administration or rotation in office of elected congressional officials or appointments to the courts, the faceless elite forces shaping national security policy are deeply entrenched, unapproachable, and unaccountable.

    This parasitic deep state feeds off its public state host, (and in turn off those hapless tax slaves who sustain both of these ravenous leviathans in our midst). An expanded book-length analysis is also available.

    For the past fifteen years the momentum has been building for a deadlier transformation.”

    – Charles Burris

    To see the supporting links and the original comment, go here, and learn:

    I wonder if 50 individual nations is the better route?
    Also, you guys do know the meaning of the word, helot, …right?

    • tulip

      a little lonnngggg

  37. foggygoggles

    If the ESF has tens of trillions of dollars, is accountable to no one and operates above all laws, it sounds like they can continue the game as long as they want. I’m also curious why the so-called smart money who buy in quantity, have not encountered a failure to deliver.

  38. eddielaidler

    Things are feeling extra weird right now. Greg or anyone here has anyone seen or checked this out? All commercial maritime traffic seems to be at port and there seems to be nothing crossing the ocean. NOTHING! Please check this out guys and comment if you think there is anything to this.

  39. FC

    Over the past week, I experienced moments of Hallelujah, with surprise visits from my brother in law and long time friend, both wanting to know my version of wants really going on with the economy.

    Their admission of wanting to know about the economy, was the simple fact that, MSM are beginning to trip over their liars.

    After years of being classified, by the both them as a certified Nut Case, Conspiracy Theorist and just plain mad, I was waiting to be made fun at again.

    But their about face on the topic was nothing more than a miracle. It was if a blind fold had been simply removed from their eyes and yet it was so wonderful to witness.

    I spend hours with them showing early episodes of Mike Maloney’s series of The Hidden Secrets of Money, introducing them to a number of great books and websites like, The Creature from Jekyll Island, ZeroHedge and of cause USAWatchdog and alike.

    Admittedly, a tear of happiness welled in eyes, knowing full well, their is method to my madness.

    • Mike Gleason

      Throw in a few episodes of The Walking Dead as frosting on the cake.

    • JC Davis

      FC I have been having the same experience. At the same time I am seeing a lot of Bible thumpers saying take no thought for tomorrow. Anything to keep the illusion alive. I always like to ask them when will you get paid for this weeks work ? Today ? How much will you make this year ?

  40. glen

    this collapse started mid 2015, only halted by refusal to allow sellers to sell for 5 years,
    DOW plunged below 16000 and is headed there again,
    this is a continuation of that delayed correction which many are predicting will see 50% + falls in equities,
    it is going to an exciting year,

  41. Dan

    ONE THEORY: Before they become greatly devalued (or worthless), China is massively unwinding US dollars and Treasurys (which is currently causing mayem in different markets).

    Rob mentioned the fact that China is unloading US dollars and Treasurys. We know that they have unloaded hundreds of billions since summer of 2015. However, I am having a hard time finding reliable sources (even including the official ones from China which state the overall foreign reserves amounts – but not ones for specific countries/currencies). I believe they still have north of 1.5 trillion in USD/Treasurys; but it is hard to get the right figures, as this is a state secret. Here are some links I found:

    Official Gov’t website:


    BullionStar article and chart:

    We can see the total amount of foreign reserves, but not from each country/currency.

    Does anyone have a website that shows the monthly increases/decreases in USD/Treasury holdings by China? If so, please post here, as that will give us something to follow and CONFIRM FACTS…

    I am not very well versed in the FX markets; so if anyone has any insight on this possible theory – either proving or disproving it – please share.


    • JMiller


      Here is the latest reported amount of Treasury holdings by foreign holders for each month.

      When looking at China’s Treasury holdings, one also needs to look at the holdings of Belgium since it is widely believed that China was buying and selling Treasuries through Belgium. If that is true then the amount of China’s Treasury holdings has fallen several hundred billion in the past year. Most of the decline in the amount of China’s holdings is seen in Belgium’s holdings.

      • lastmanstanding

        That is only one of the sets of books that Mohammad is talking about.

        The one that they want you to see/believe.

        A lot has happened since Oct. 2015. Everyone is bailing on the $ and old yeller is printing 24/7 to emulate the payment of US debt.

        They have extended this a loooooonnnnnnnggggg way. When they tell you by incredibly low commodity prices that the things that are most important to your survival just “aren’t worth a damn” and are “going to be worth even less”, you had better be really concerned.

        • Mohammad


          It is deep and it is dark.
          It is not a financial school, IT IS A RELIGION that they are practicing and i can give a glimpse of what it is:

          The financial system is based on a “debt” reading of the metaphor, meaning, (am going on the limb to explain where are they coming from and why is this happening, if we do not understand the TPTB engine we will never understand the financial turmoil and we will never know how to answer it):

          When humans sin, they issue a debt to “god”

          Since god is eternal and infinite and humans are finite that is why that debt is infinite because it is issued to an infinite entity…..

          The federal reserve bank is tagging the debt to an interest turning a finite 1 $ debt that needs to be paid with a finite 1$ debt into 1 $ debt + (interest that was not created yet) so the sum is infinite and WILL NEVER BE PAID BACK….
          So the moment the federal reserve bank was in charge here, the moment the ECB was in charge in Europe, the moment the IMF was in charge of the world, whatever debt they issue is meant to be infinite and mathematically, algebraically impossible to be paid back.

          So that is one part that is not so frightening yet.
          Here comes the frightening part:

          Any debt HAS to be reconciled…no escaping that fact.

          The reconciliation of the human sin in the metaphor was to have that debt to be paid by a sacrifice……Hence in christianity, “god” had to turn into a human and be crossed and his blood on the cross was the reconciliation of that sin of humans (that was the only way to have a finite paying an infinite debt to the infinite. That infinite turned into finite and shed the blood and reconciled the debt)

          That trinity theology goes back way way before christianity, you can see it in Egyptian theology and it older than that .

          In ISLAM the debt was reconciled by PARDONING from Allah to humans. and the sacrifice which was also mentioned in Quran was by offering the lamb in order to save the life of the sinning human.
          Please LMS am not trying to say who is right and who is wrong , am not trying to impose the Islam view on any one but am mentioning some ideas and i do not claim it to be right, but it is up for every one to think it deeply and come up with own conclusion.

          So the debt of the bankers cannot be reconciled mathematically with any kind of currency nor with any thing BUT blood shed.

          That is their evil esoteric frightening thinking.
          That what they believe and what they practice.
          That what they plan for humanity.
          WARS are not for only economic, geopolitical crap they try to fool average Joe with.
          It is reconciling a debt they issued out of evil distorted inhumane thinking.

          You see where is that stemming from?

          How do we foil their plan:

          Here is my answer:

          DO NOT ISSUE ANY DEBT EVER unless it is a debt with ZERO interest (debts in Islam are that and that why they fear Islam and try to destroy it, it strikes at the heart of their interest based finance, and when feds say zero interest they lie, it is not zero, and they do not pass it to average joe).

          Its as simple as that. you will bust them where they are.

          Do not apply for mortgage, do not apply for extended credit. Every time we apply for a credit we feed that debt cycle and we give them a chance for more blood shedding.

          The bate is tough to refuse, after all the convenience of having a credit and paying installment on it and living beyond our means is too tough to drop.

          I hope we wake up early before it is too late.

          Today am off work and i put my thoughts in this post.
          If am wrong throw this post in the recycle bin, but if am right then i gave you a solution to foil their game.


          • lastmanstanding

            Thanks for your reply Doc. It is late and I would like to reread your comment in the morning.

            From what I read, we are on the same page. I have always respected your ideas and opinions.

          • sk

            i. e. DO NOT FEED THE BEAST.

  42. Mitchell Bupp

    Thank You Greg and Mr. Kirby, The gimmicks of the central banksters, crapitalists and politicians are never ending. They can keep kicking the can down the road through monetary games until we are a third world country. The real question is,”Will the people wake up or will the people be left holding the bag?”. I plan to use your sources as I talk to people this year here in Virginia on the campaign trail. Be aware and awake my friends……

  43. dchayden

    Hi Greg, I have a question for you and the readers, that is of importance to anyone holding physical gold/silver. The topic of modern day gold confiscation is constantly brushed off during interviews throughout the web ( in the general sense, I don’t mean on USAWD. The “Trading with the Enemy Act of 1917” is still good law, and could still be used by the President of the United States, as FDR used it in 1933 to nationalize domestic gold and silver coin and bullion AND… JFK used it during his administration to require Americans owning gold coin and bullion abroad to turn it all in. If I am not mistaken, 16 or 17 years ago, Congress was still amending the section, and isn’t it probable that in an emergency situation, this would be revisited by the government to assure its economic and statehood survival? We are not on the gold standard anymore, I realize this…and we are not in 1933, however, we all know that there are very powerful interests that don’t want us to plan for our gold coin retirement. They want our investments in a different media. . It could be that gold seizure (or the fear of it) is how they move our investment choice, or it could simply be what naturally occurs in a “Darwinian selection of investment vehicles ”
    Either way, I think this topic is not looked at serious enough among many expert guests across the web.

    I also know that after FDR’s executive order, basically saying to turn in your gold or face a 1930’s > $10,000 fine and 10 years in jail or both, that many gold coins that had a numismatic value considered rare and unusual, were able to be retained. Few people know that the government was not able to seize non-US mint-issued gold nor were they able to seize numismatics (which were considered collectibles and do not show a minting-date on the face of the coin/bar). So therein lies my question…do you ( or anyone on here) consider buying non minted or non USA ( or what ever country you reside in) gold bullion because of this ? Or, if confiscation should happen, will these old laws be amended to include rare and non minted coins? Until now, All my gold and silver is minted and dated….I am a little uneasy. I think this topic should be more seriously explored. ( I hope I am wrong)

    Sorry for the long post, but I think any significant owner of Gold/Silver should explore this. Non minted, foreign gold worked the last time executive order 6102 was used…jus sayin’


    • Faith

      DC: I have been buying bullion coins and bars from Canada for a number of years. They are minted by the Royal Canadian Mint and 100-ounce bars do have numbers stamped on the front. Mapleleafs are easy to recognize. I decided to purchase non-US coins and bullion because I have been concerned about US policy for a number of years. Those policies have not resulted in the US being admired, loved and respected around the world. Those policies have resulted in anger, resentment, and disgust towards the US. There may be a future point in time where a US citizen will not be welcome and neither will the US dollar and that is the reason I have chosen RCM products, mostly silver.

      As far as the US government attempting to confiscate gold or silver in the US, today, I would say good luck to them! Back when people were told to turn in their gold people still trusted the US government. That trust is gone and has been squandered. If the US government, the Federales, started to make demands to turn in PMs, as I stated above, what are the Federales going to do? Dig up every back yard, every pasture and raze every workshop and barn looking for PMs? Zerohedge commenters are a rough group but I often see comments there about “boating accidents.” People are not naive now and many of us would refuse to follow what we would view as an unlawful order.

      • dbcooper

        OK Faith or Whomever … I have a question … we bought bars/rounds and junk, the bars and rounds are Engelhard and Sunshine. Is there a problem with these versus from a sovereign mint … US/Canada or whoever??? DB.

        • Faith

          DB: I do not have an answer. I based my purchases after observing current trends and history. RCM products are all .9999 graded with regard to purity. Both silver and gold. My purchases were made out of instinct and observation. If I have erred out of ignorance it is my error and my error alone.

        • JMiller


          People debate which is best all the time in PM websites. Eagles or Maples verses generic bars and rounds. Some say that you want to buy the most recognizable silver you can even if it means paying a little more. In the U.S. that would be American Silver Eagles. Some others say that silver is silver so buy the cheapest priced silver you can because they say when the SHTF no one is going to care whether it is a generic silver bar or an American Silver Eagle. And they could be right but who knows. No one has a crystal ball so it is really hard to say which would be better to have in the future.

          What you have is fine. Engelhard bars and rounds are the most desirable of any manufacturer. Sunshine is also a not a bad choice. Also having some junk silver is also good since it is recognizable and good for small purchases.

        • lastmanstanding

          DB…Engelhard bars (the old ones) are American made and imo the standard of the industry. Sunshine silver is Idaho silver. I suspect that you are in Idaho. Locals will be more likely to recognize it for whatever you may want to use it for.

          I am a US citizen and damn proud of it. US silver and gold coinage and minting will be the first thing that I recognize/accept in a crisis situation. There are still lots of us like that out here.

          I got a shotgun, rifle, garden, axe, spring, common sense, work ethic/trades, etc., etc., oh…and an emp proof 4 wd…a proud American that will survive!

          …and a secret, invincible weapon. My wife.

          “don’t go down without one helluva fight” lms

          • JMiller


            The Sunshine Mint has manufacturing facilities in Idaho, Nevada & Shanghai so they use more than just Idaho silver. And their silver bars and coins are sold by many retailers all over the U.S. so dbcooper could be living anywhere in the world.

          • Faith

            I have no problem with my fellow Amercians. It is the government I cannot stand.

      • freebreezer

        Faith – Wow buying multiple 100 -ounce bars! And I thought I was going to step out big and buy a 100 gm bar (just over 3 ounces).

        • Faith

          Freebreezer: once I had filled up a “monster box” of 1-ounce maple leaf bullion/coins I stopped buying coins and switched to 100-ounce bars. A monster box is 500 ounces. Silver is heavy. I took me a few years to fill up a monster box by the way. Kitco sent me an empty monster box with my last coin order which is cool because it contains all of the coin rolls. After I got that box filled up I changed to buying 100-ounce bars because of the lower cost. Plus the bars are really ugly. The RCM ones are heavy and I can set them on a bookcase or shelf and most folks would walk right past it and think it was a paperweight. I usually compare Kitco and JMBullion. JMBullion has free shipping and doesn’t charge insurance.

        • Faith

          Freebreezer: buy what you can afford and what suits your budget. Silver prices now are excellent. Not as low as the early 1990s when it was between $4 and $5 an ounce. But still the prices now are affordable.

          I also have six months of food preps in my garage. And a shotgun. And cash in three different currencies: USD, Canadian dollar, and Swisse Franc. Why? If things go haywire I will probably leave the country. I get a lot of flack on this type of comment but at my age, and being female, if things get really bad I will seriously just leave the country. With cash and PMs you can avoid commercial flights and find your own path to safety. I love the US. But if things get crazy I am bailing and I don’t want to show up in a new place absolutely impoverished.

    • JMiller


      I read a number of articles and heard in interviews on the possibility of gold confiscation in the future. Many are of the opinion that gold will most likely not be confiscated. One of the reasons given are that we are not on the gold standard like we were in the 1930’s. Another reason given is that very few people today have gold coins compared to people in the 1930’s since gold coins were used in money back then.

      Also another form of gold that you did not mention that was exempt from Executive Order 6102 is jewelry. Most gold today is used in jewelry, not in coins. Also every person was allowed to own up to $100 in gold coins (a face value equivalent to 5 troy ounces) according to Executive Order 6102. Anything more than that was required to be turned in. Most people though probably did not.

      • JMiller


        Also some people who warn about the possibility of gold confiscation recommend putting some of your gold in a bullion storage facility located outside of the country. However most people do not have enough in gold and silver to really think about doing that plus you are putting your gold somewhere that is not in your control and could be confiscated by that country’s government or be stolen by the owner’s of the bullion storage facility. My advise is not to spend too much time thinking about gold confiscation since no one has a crystal ball to know what all is going to happen in the future. The most important thing is to have some physical precious metals and have at least most of it in your procession.

        • diane s.

          Nor will I faith.
          Don’t think this will fly.

          • Faith

            Diane S: the government apparatchiks can demand all day long. Good luck with them digging holes to find a few ounces of silver.

    • diane s.

      Good questions!

  44. Jerry

    The herd is beginning to get spooked. This could be the beginning of the liftoff if this trend continues. With the Gold benchmark only a few weeks away, this is one to keep an eye on.

  45. Smaulgld

    The thing about “china’s” gold is there needs to be a distinction made between how much the People’s Bank of China has and how much gold is in China.
    I explain in this Zero hedge article (after an introduction from Tyler D)

  46. oneno

    Same echoed by Jackass but in far more detail. What goes around comes around!

  47. Zoey

    Let’s not forget about Jade Helm 16, it has a new operating code name, the massive drills are being called UWEX 16 short for “Unconventional Warfare Exercise 2016. The name, Unconventional Warfare Exercise 2016, is ominous on its face. What exactly is unconventional warfare? It is an euphemism for guerilla war. Under the present set of circumstances, where would a guerilla war emanate from? It would come from guerilla activities resulting from the nation being in a civil war. Therefore, it is clear that UWEX, or Jade Helm 16 is about the establishment eliminating a civilian contribution to a guerilla war effort. In other words, people in a position of power are telling the American people through their actions, that they anticipate a civil war taking place in this country. I believe Jade Helm 16 will complete marshal law, which Obama will use to stay in white house and ultimately also put on another hat for UN chief.

  48. Diane D.

    Great interview. Thank you Rob and Greg.

    Silver is already accepted for payment in large areas of the US today, specifically widely recognized and trusted US mint silver coins. American Silver Eagles are good for larger purchases (labor) and pre-1965 dimes best for smaller ones (garden vegetables, baked good etc.)

    An indicator of how well your location will fare if the Schumer hits the fan is whether silver is acceptable today. If it is not accepted (like Bobby’s area) the people are asleep to what is happening today and likely unprepared. I’d recommend moving your loved ones NOW.

    • JMiller

      “Silver is already accepted for payment in large areas of the US today”

      Really? Please explain since you can’t go into over 99% of businesses or stores and use an American Silver Eagle as payment. Sounds like you are talking more like bartering mostly among small groups of private citizens.

  49. Keyboard Kommando

    The US doesn’t include food and energy in their official inflation numbers, since Wall St and the City of London control the gold prices – they being they, aren’t going to allow for $3000 gold. Basically China and Russia can hoard the gold, but the West controls the PM prices. If China and Russia want to assert dominance, they have to take it to a hot war.

    It only hit me tonight, that the USD has lost more than 97% of purchasing power, therefore it will be impossible to achieve hyper inflation. In a scenario, 101% purchasing power lost, the currency will be rendered worthless. To increase purchasing power of the USD, the elite are going to use war to depopulate.

    • Faith

      KK: Sadly, I agree. There have been a number of people that have postulated the same thing over the last year, both on this site and others. I view it as inevitable.

      What if there was a war and no one showed up? I say to the Federales, good luck conscripting this generation! Many young people are obese. Few can actually pass the physical to enter military service without those standards being lowered. Not to mention the test scores that are necessary along with basic reading, writing, and math skills which continue to drop even for those with a High School Diploma.

      The good news is that drone operators are not re-enlisting, even with generous bonuses. The mythology of using drones to kill real people from far, far away is not turning out to be as exciting as the video games which led up to this type of so-called job.

      Thank god some of those operators are realizing that their choices have consequences and are waking up to the moral implications of those choices. Good.

  50. Janet G.


    I don’t know what you think of Benjamin Fulford, but his latest article dated Jan. 12, seems to fit in with what Rob Kirby is saying, and he adds specific names. Do you think he’s legit?

  51. M

    Open question…..foreign countries sell their Treasury reserves and receive U.S. dollars in exchange…what do they do with their U.S. dollars after they sell Treasuries? Are they using them to purchase their own currency in the markets to prop their own currency up and thus avoid the hyperinflation that was discussed?

  52. James Hastings

    “The Economic Collapse” newsletter has facts concerning the economy. Todays mentioned that year over year, change in global exports, is the second lowest since 1958. It’s a great email companion, every morning, at no cost.

  53. Deanna Johnston Clark

    Nothing special is going on unless the indictments go out…then I’ll assume it’s not just a simple, though serious and overdue, market correction.

  54. Diane D.

    Greg, I came upon a chart representing all of the world’s money. Much of this is beyond me but savvy Watchdogs may find it interesting. Physical gold is shown but silver reflects paper silver. Estimated derivatives… Can that be true?

  55. Jay Dee

    Thanks Greg and Ron! I hold you both in high esteem. I couldn’t help but think after hearing Rob’s closing comments about how this financial collapse will be painful for essentially all of us, we are facing more than one enemy here. I read on just a few days ago that Pope Francis is calling for one world religion. We can see that the boarders around the US and Europe are being disassembled. The US Constitution is being shredded. Christianity is under severe assault around the world. At our face we see the collapse of the world financial system. At our backs we see the globalists boldly pushing humanity toward the one world government—world enslavement. I try to shout the alarm but face opposition from even my adult children. We have never faced enemies such as these. In desperation we pray, Lord show us the way.

    • larr

      Excellent comments and insightful understanding of sources for our times and does this understanding lead us to scripture?

      There is a book called “The Great Controversy” (between Christ and Satan), by Ellen G. White that out lines our current events and the soon coming of Christ to claim His remnant or people. This book explains Daniel and Revelation and its application to end of time events. Daniel was told by the angel 3 times in Daniel 12, “…shut up the words and seal the book until the TIME OF THE END”, (emphasis added) verse 4, 9, and 13.

      There is more than one application for many of the scenarios in scripture. Daniel 2 is a general outline of the dominant powers that were to come after Daniel, the man, then Christ would come verse 34. Daniel interprets the dream given to Nebuchadnezzar by God that the false prophets did not even have a clue. Daniel reveals an image with a head of gold (Babylon), chest and arms of silver (Medes and Persians), belly and thighs of bronze (Greece), and legs of iron (Rome), with feet a mixture of iron and clay (European nations).

      Daniel in chapter 7 is the same as chapter 2, with greater detail, The images of these beasts this time have a possible end time 2nd application (verse 12 “their lives prolonged for a season and a time.”) Martin Luther and other Protestants at one time believed that there were at least 7 characteristics that proved that verses 7 through 11 was the successive persecuting Roman church and the dark ages beginning in 535 A.D. to 1798, the times time and half or 1260 years.

      Daniel 8, more images and beasts, another application United States and Iran? That vision, Daniel was told in verse 17 “…the vision refers to the time of the end. In 8:14 “For two thousand three hundred days, then the sanctuary shall be cleansed”. Numbers 14:34 and Ezekiel 4:6 establish a day for a year.This establishes the time of the end. From 456 B.C. (decree to rebuild Jerusalem) to 1844 A.D. beginning of the time of the end.

      Daniel chapter 9: 24-27 reveals the Messiah as Jesus Christ in the 70 week prophecy. The Jewish Talmud students were forbidden, with a curse, from reading Daniel, as it would prove beyond a shadow of doubt The True Messiah. Daniel 10, 11, and 12 are part of the dark ages before Christ’s return.
      Revelation is an expansion of Daniel. Chapter 13:11, does this suggest the United States, the beast from the land? The beast from the sea the Roman Church? No one can buy or sell except that have the mark of the beast verse 17. It is all about worship God the creator Chapter 14. Come out of her my people chapter 18.

      This is by no means an exhaustive study, but is an overview. Prayerful study and a personal relationship with our Savior is a requisite for understanding these end times.

      • Pondering

        With that perspective in mind, it appears that the close of probation is imminent, and above all, we must be spiritually prepared. All practical preparations will be a natural outflow of the mind of Christ within His followers. Our course of action will be directed by His will, and for His glory. The prophecies are revealed to affirm His authority and wisdom, and show is the waymarks on His timeline. There are a few more events ahead, but those who are not lulled to sleep are, at the very least, aware that something serious appears to be happening.

      • C romana

        Larry, please read Rudolph Steiner.

  56. steven starr

    Thanks for all your hard work, Greg.
    I love Rob Kirby, he knows his stuff and tells us the unvarnished truth. I always look forward to his interviews.

    • Greg Hunter

      Thank you Steve for your support and kind words.

  57. KansasCrude

    Greg fascinating interview as usual. Have been thru it 3x and the one thing that has me wondering is the comment by Rob that the ESF has 10’s of TRILLION$ of assets off balance sheet that has grown in value since the 30’s. If they have that kind of money then why do we have a problem. Our debt is $19 Trillion Plus unfunded liabilities that will be an issue down the road. I guess that is so much more money than I even thought they had. So is he thinking the derivatives will explode due to everyone else’s debt? I have to admit this has significantly altered my perspective. If the ESF has 10’s of trillions the crash should be off the table for decades. The USD should even retain reserve currency status. Why the hell is our government so quiet about having tens of TRILLIONS in off balance sheet assets. I have to be missing something here! Are all these assets actually worthless?

    • Greg Hunter

      It means the pile of real things is going to vanish when the (exponentially larger) pile of paper looks for real value before it is rendered worthless.

      • KansasCrude

        Thanks Greg, I find the whole ESF angle fascinating. Rob has some unique perspectives here that are another massive layer on the mountain of governmental obfuscation. I agree we are in crash mode the quandary is how fast and how hard. Hope all are heeding his knowledge and analysis.

    • Faith

      Kansas, I agree. Hearing about the gold that was confiscated was converted into this black account made my blood boil. That is why I now say, without equivocation, there no longer exists the rule of law in the US.

      I cannot say how disgusted I am after hearing Mr. Kirby’s excellent explanation.

      The people of the US need to be paid back from that stolen fund. The entire Federal Reserve ought to be liquidated. The Congress ought to regain control of minting the coin of the land.

      I just saw the Governor of Texas on FOX news come out and say that, “under Article 5 there should be a Convention of the State’s.” I agree. I am willing to take that risk in order to avoid an all-out civil war in the US.

      • KansasCrude

        Ditto Faith, The list of transgressions are mountainous. I hope the Texas governor gets some serious traction on this move. Right now there is no fear to break all the tenants of the Constitution by the pigs running our government. Meaning the banksters and their minions in CONgress and the bureaucracy. What a sham

        • Faith

          Kansas: it is a sham! The list goes on and on and on. The real criminals in the US are not behind bars they are in charge of running this country into the ground and stealing as much as possible before it collapses. Absolutely appalling.

  58. gregd

    Another great interview, Rob Kirby is clear in his answers. To summarize BE PRERARED.
    Another regular guest you have , Bill Holter just wrote a very interesting letter that I found on another web site. You might want to take a look at it.

  59. Marius

    Hi Greg,

    This was a great interview,

    Your guests have spoken about the emerging markets’ currencies collapsing.
    We are currently experiencing this in South Africa with the Rand’s value plummeting as never before. For example the price of a 1Oz of gold Kruger Rand has risen in price (in Rand terms) over the past six months – from about ZAR 14800 to ZAR 19400 to get physical delivery! I note that you are interested in this aspect. This is the equivalent of about a month or two month’s salary for the average working South African.

    The weak currency has a direct impact on imports and prices of imported goods in South Africa. It must also be noted that most of South Africa’s consumer items in the shops are imported from China and the widening South African trade deficit is further weakening the Rand. This in turn impacts on the South African Stock Exchange and peoples’ pension fund savings are vanishing.

    The position with regard to bank deposits is similar to the US. We loan cash to the bank at the rate of 4,5% per year, while the official inflation rate is currently 4,8% per year and then bank cash deposit charges and withdrawal charges must also be taken into account. Should a banking institution fail, as some have indeed failed in South Africa in the past, the depositors are ranked as concurrent creditors of the bank in liquidation proceedings and depositors would be lucky to get paid cents in the Rand. The South African Banks are required to hold about 15% cash reserves on hand to meet depositors’ claims for cash.

    Thank you for the most informative interviews and keep up the good work.

  60. Zoey

    I haven’t had any success either on waking people up to this horrific situation we are facing. The Illuminates use brainwashing, mind control techniques and magic through mass media, and people have been brainwashed since childhood and are completely unaware of it. Hollywood is their favorite apparatus.

    “In the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously.

    Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying. These people know only too well how to use falsehood for the basest purposes.”

    “Lucky for the rulers that the common people don’t think”

    -ADOLPH HITLER”, 1925.”

    However, what I don’t get is how come while most of the population are totally asleep, a small group of people are totally awake to what’s going on…well thank God for our non-conformity!


    HR 8791:
    Understanding the Islamic-Vatican/Jesuit Connection:

    • Greg Hunter

      Great stuff “Just”! Everything that governs us is “classified.”

  62. Brian Lauzon

    I live in Canada and use one of the large banks , TD Bank to be specific. Today , Monday, my account is not accessible at all, On line the site for the entire country is not available. I tried calling them – the main headquarters and again I have no access. Nobody is answering the phones. This has never ever happened before. I can understand a ‘computer glitch’ making online access unavailable but not the entire system be it a debit card , internet access or phone system. Trial run for bank holiday?

    • Greg Hunter

      Thank you Brian for the reporting. Please keep us informed. I hope you are holding physical Canadian cash and Maple Leafs outside the system.

      • Gary Canuck

        Greg, I went to three banks in Canada today to get 5K cash.
        TD, CIBC,BMO, the max I could take out was 2K, plus
        a 5K withdrawal had to e approved by the bank manager, which, requires you to fill out a form and wait three days.
        Over 5K is reported to Revenue Canada, “it used to be 10K”
        I thought I would test the system re the purchase of a 2002 Honda Shawdow 1100cc, and it confirmed my fears, bank draft ,no problem.
        Our money is being locked down, there is a reason I have four banks, and today was confirmation of that move.

        • Greg Hunter

          Thank you Gary for the reporting.

    • Mary Casey

      01/06/16 “Canada’s underground market for stolen banking credentials, cards, and IDs, is also thriving……The most targeted bank, in terms of hackers trying to get user credentials, was Toronto Dominion bank (TD), by a mile. To be more precise, hackers tried to swipe information from TD customers more than twice as often as the next most popular bank: Bank of Montreal.

    • lastmanstanding

      An older gentlemen recently commented over at the srsroccoreport that he had been using over 26,000 oz. of Ag and 38 oz. of Au as collateral on loans…for years.

      He was given one day notice and then the bank sold it as scrap. If this is true, and your story is true…banks will do whatever they must to see that they remain in control.

      Am not calling you out Brian, just thanking you for the info and sharing a bit more.

      I listen to all the info and make my own decisions on what to do.

      • JMiller

        “I listen to all the info and make my own decisions on what to do”

        Very good advise.

  63. Zoey

    On January 25, Fox will be premiering a new series ‘Lucifer’ portraying Satan as a misunderstood good guy! Hollywood is right on schedule with the elites’ plans.

    • Faith

      Zoey, thanks for the information. I find that to be disgusting. I will not be watching that show!


      Z, even our everyday commercials are loaded with the #. Duluth clothing with good looking blond on a ranch setting, tossing wood in to her pick up, license plate the #. Cell phone company with little blue and red balls used for demonstration purpose shows the #. Pop Secret popcorn 6 pack placed perfectly and shows the # with a reference to ICE or ISIS ? Young peoples clothing line in commercial shows 4-6’s . Raise your head for your deliverance is near !

  64. Don

    Here’s a post on China’s bank restrictions imposed on the dollar.

  65. Coal Burner

    Mohammad; where are the Babylonians going next after they finish up here?
    Not Uraguay, the Bushes are just setting off there to wait out the turmoil and see where they go next too.

    • Mohammad




    Greg, seen interview yesterday but wanted to see comments…. There’s still some uninformed or trolls around……… I went looking for a old movie that someone might be able to help me with. It’s date was late 50’s or early 60’s in California, as a family was heading out on vacation, about 30 or 40 miles East of LA they all seen a large explosion. The family of 4 and the father knew what it was (Nuke explosion). Father played by character actor Marcus Wellby MD? I’m 80 percent certain ?? What’s important, is how quickly life changed to a very dangerous adventure for everyone around. Food, guns and a safe area was needed because the area became very hostile. ** Does anyone remember the name of this movie? I first thought it was called, “Year One”. Though, it’s not. The next time we have trolls, I would like to post the link. Greg. thank you again for the 5th or 6th time from me personally. I’m just a ordinary working stiff but I’ve learned much from your program that helps me going forward. GREAT JOB putting those morons in there place. **** Please once again, can someone help me with the name of the movie I described, we all should watch for what is very likely to happen in all our lives. PS, Chemtrails still being sprayed everywhere.

  67. Mohammad

    “Why importing beef?
    We should be exporting it. it makes no sense.”

    That what they they said while removing the fence that was put on the land that used to be open:


  68. tulip

    is this kirby a rerun..from last week..?

    Bank reformist Saunders frightening status quo
    Posted on January 12, 2016 by Danielle Park
    Glass-Steagall advocate Bernie Saunders is tied with Clinton in the democratic leadership race. This is frightening status quo corporate interests and especially bankers. Historically neither labor nor management have never held the upper hand indefinitely. After more than 20 years of rising ‘corporatocracy’ a power swing back towards labor is overdue. The 2016 Presidential election could serve as a catalyst.

    Here is a direct video link.

  69. diane s.

    Look what Drudge headline was this morning!

    They may dump Hillery

    • bobd

      It was reported Sanders had a meeting with Obama a couple days ago ?

  70. gregd

    Rob Kirby mentioned that they still had trillions of dollars from when they robbed the people of their gold back in Roosevelt’s day. I hope you get a chance to ask him about that. Because the government takes or borrows everything they can and since it was the government’s money to begin with why wouldn’t they take that too? Thanks

  71. tulip

    Nigerian Currency Collapses After Central Bank Halts Dollar Sales To Stall “Hyperinflation Monster”

    from Wolf Street:

    Having told banks and investors “don’t panic” in September, amid spiking interbank lending rates and surging default/devaluation risks, it appears themassive shortage of dollars that we warned about in December has washed tsunami-like ashore in oil-producing Nigeria. Following theCentral bank’s decision this week to halt dollar sales to non-bank FX market operators, black market exchange rates spiked to 282/USD (vs 199 official) and CDS spiked to record highs implying drastic devaluations loom.

    Read More

  72. PingPong

    I thought this was a good write up on the pending Chinese gold fix and what it means:

  73. Mark Maples

    Royal Bank of Scotland just issued a statement advising its clients that 2016 would be a “cataclysmic year” and to “sell everything except bonds” fyi.

  74. OutLookingIn

    Further confirmation of global trade collapse.

  75. John D

    So Mr Kirby thinks it is very possible that by the end of 2016 silver and gold will be many multiples of the price it is right now. . . Sounds like a sales pitch to me.

    • tulip


    • Shadow of Doubt

      One has only to look back to WWII to know that those with silver could often procure food and shelter; and those with gold had the means to bribe their way across borders or possibly ransom themselves from danger. In times of chaos and trouble PM’s have historically been a bargain.

    • helot

      From a link within the article OutLookingIn posted above titled, ‘Investigating Claims “North Atlantic Trade Ground to a Halt, No Ships Moving”; The Real Shipping Story’

      “Claims have surfaced that not a single transport ship in the North Atlantic is moving. […]

      The Real Shipping Story

      Let’s sort out reality from hype from Marine.Com. […]

      As you can easily see, the numbers vary from chart to chart. Ships are moving.

      The first thing I do when I see reports like “No Ships Moving” is look for mainstream news confirmation.

      If no ships were moving, this would indeed be news and some reputable news site would have the story. The “no ships moving” story failed the “sniff test” from moment one.

      Confirmation of economic stories is different than confirmation of political stories. Coverups of sex attacks in Germany and Sweden, and police killings in Chicago and other US cities highlights the difference.

      Other Shipping Measures

      Let’s now investigate other indicators of slowing shipments Including the Baltic Dry Index and the Harper Petersen shipping Index. …”

  76. Robbie41

    Hello to you Mr. Greg, I’m just asking you if you are aware of the coming Planet 7X that will be here on March 26, 2016. That means you only have 2 1/2 Months left to have & Your going to need to figure out how to store a Years worth of Food, Water, Pet Supplies, Medical Supplies, Bathroom Supplies, Personal Protection Gear, & Cooking Supplies, & ANYTHING else you can think of, for the ENTIRE NEXT YEAR of 2016. (And Well Beyond that for that Matter). Just wondering if you really know about this threat coming.

    • helot

      I wonder how come you don’t call it, “The Planet Nibiru / Planet 7X” like you did on the other websites?

      That’s an old story, by the way. A decade old, I’d guess. I see it hasn’t changed.
      It seems this particular narrative gets placed on a comment thread when topics get discussed in ways certain people don’t like in order to discredit the other speakers and subjects in the eyes of the casual reader. It’s more effective if it’s placed at the top of the comment thread, like you did elsewhere. …Did you clock-in late?

  77. steven starr

    This question comes late, sorry, but I noted that Rob Kirby said (at about 8:40 into the interview) that the US Treasury is doing $200 billion in reverses *daily* (!!!)

    Can you please confirm this? This would mean $1.4 trillion per week, $6.4 trillion per month, etc. Also would like to know how long this has been going on?

    If it is possible, could you also please direct me to a written explanation of how this works?

    many thanks,
    Steven Starr

  78. Gary

    Dear Greg,
    Thank you for sharing this information. I’ve followed your site off and on since 2008. I’m sharing this today, because I you hit the nail directly on the head. You said in your interview with Mr. Kirby: “It’s going to be biblical!” That’s exactly what this is. PLEASE, read this. I believe it will connect a few other things along with the financial collapse.

    No doubt you have read these verses a number of times. Well, we have arrived: “Go to now, ye rich men, weep and howl for your miseries that shall come upon you. Your riches are corrupted, and your garments are motheaten. Your gold and silver is cankered; and the rust of them shall be a witness against you, and shall eat your flesh as it were fire. Ye have heaped treasure together for the last days” (James 5:1-3)

    There will be no recovering from what is just before is. As you also said while speaking with Mr. Kirby is that “the system is rigged.” Well, the ENTIRE system is rigged. We are fish in a surrounding net, and it is being tightened right now. This has been planned for a long time. Please consider the information below and things will be come clear:

    “Pope Francis warned Monday that the recent influx of migrants risked overwhelming European values and traditions, but said he was confident the continent could successfully integrate the newcomers.”

    Considering this human tragedy has been orchestrated to eviscerate “the badges of our national identity, which most of us have always taken for granted” (see Keys of This Blood, p. 15), I’m not surprised the Pope is encouraging everyone to hang in there and “successfully integrate the newcomers.” The architects of the NWO intend to subject us to “the most profound and widespread modification of international, national and local life that the world has seen in a thousand years” (KOTB, p. 16).

    I remember when others were encouraging people to read the book, The Keys of This Blood, and get a handle on what this world would look like if the process described in its pages came to fruition. However, it was really hard to get excited about a man-made construct that may or may not evolve according to the understanding of one writer. But now, looking at the world we see, Dr. Martin was right on point.

    Malachi Martin was a Jesuit and worked at the Vatican for Cardinal Bea during the time of Vatican II. Because of his assignment, he came into close association with Pope John Paul II. The fruit of this association is the book “The Keys of This Blood: The Struggle For World Dominion Between Pope John Paul II, Mikhail Gorbachev & The Capitalist West.”

    Interested? Here are a just a few quotes from the first couple of pages of the book:

    “Willing or not, ready or not, we are all involved in an all-out, no-holds-barred, three-way global competition. Most of us are not competitors, however. We are the stakes. For the competitions is about who will establish the first one-world system of government that has ever existed in the society of nations. It is about who will hold and wield the dual power of authority and control over each of us as individuals and over all of us together as a community; over the entire six billion people expected by demographers to inhabit the earth by early in the third millennium” (p. 15)

    “The competition is all-out because, now that it has started, there is no way it can be reversed or called off” (p. 15).

    “No holds barred because, once the competition has been decided, the world and all that’s in it–our way of life as individuals and as citizens of the nations; our families and our jobs; our trade and commerce and money; our educational systems and our religions and our cultures; even the badges of our national identity, which most of us have always taken for granted–all will have been powerfully and radically altered forever. No one can be exempted from its effects. No sector of our lives will remain untouched” (p. 15).

    “The competition began and continues as a three-way affair because that is the number of rivals with sufficient resources to establish and maintain a new world order. Nobody who is acquainted with the plans of these three rivals has any doubt but that only one of them can win. Each expects the other two to be overwhelmed and swallowed up in the coming maelstrom of change. This being the case, it would appear inescapable that their competition will end up as a confrontation” (p. 15).

    [Note: Remember the USSR? There was “a confrontation” between the USSR and the other two players–The Capitalist West and the Papacy. The USSR is no longer with us. The dissolution of the Soviet Union was formally enacted on December 26, 1991, close on the heals of the publishing of Martin’s book.]

    Martin continues: “As to the time factor involved, those of us who are under seventy will see at least the basic structures of the new world government installed. Those of us under forty will surely live under it legislative, executive and judiciary authority and control” (p. 16).

    “What these competitors are talking about, then, is the most profound and widespread modification of international, national and local life that the world has seen in a thousand years … Ten years before this competition became manifest to the world at large, the man [Pope John Paul II] who was destined to become the first, the most unexpected and, for some at least, the most unwelcome competition of all in this millennium endgame spoke openly about what he saw down the road even then” (p. 16).

    “Perhaps the world was still too immersed in the old system of nations-states, and in all the old international balance-of-power arrangements, to hear what Wojtyla [Pope John Paul II] was saying” (p. 16).

    Referring to Pope John Paul II, Martin continues: “…he was himself the head of the most extensive and deeply experienced of the three global powers that would, within a short time, set about ending the nation system of the world politics that had defined human society for over a thousand years. It is not too much to say, in fact, that the chosen purpose of John Paul’s pontificate–the engine that drives his papal grand policy and that determines his day-to-day, year-by year strategies–is to be the victor in that competition, now well under way.” (p. 17).

    “Their aim is to foster increasing cooperation on an international basis–and to do that by maintaining the peace, at the same time they accomplish what war has rarely achieved: the breakdown of all the old natural and artificial barriers between nations” (p. 18).
    “There is one great similarity shared by all three of these globalist competitors. Each one has in mind a particular grand design for one world governance … Their geopolitical competition is about which of the three will form, dominate and run the world system that will replace the decaying nation system” (p. 18-19).

    Regarding the movements of the “Capitalist West,” Martin penned these words: “The final contender in the competition for the new world order is not a single individual leader of a single institution or territory. It is a group of men who are united as one in power, mind and will for the purposes of achieving a single common goal: to be victorious in the competition for the new global hegemony” (p. 17).

    Hegemony is an interesting word, so read this paragraph again and let Revelation 17:12-13 wash over your mind: “And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.” Did Dr. Martin see the similarities in the language? Is this a coincidence? You decide.

    Martin continues: “In the new world order of the Wise Men of the West–the most powerful of the Genuine Globalists–the rights and freedoms of the individual would be based on positive law: that is, on laws passed by a majority of those who will be entitled to vote on the various levels of the new rule, however, will be far removed from the ordinary individual … Similarities of public rhetoric, therefore, do more to mask than clarify the profound differences between the contenders, and the profoundly different consequences for us all of the grand design each one proposes for the arrangement of our human affairs” (p. 19).

    Does this not describe our world? As you can see from the quote above, President Obama is not making unilateral decisions. He is following the directions of “the Wise Men of the West–the most powerful of the Genuine Globalists.” Clearly, what is happening has been orchestrated and implemented without the knowledge and understanding of the majority of the earth’s population. This is not conspiracy theory. It is right there in front of us if we are willing to open our eyes, read and pay attention! We are being herded into the NWO.

    The most interesting part to me is that they spoken about what they have been planning to do, they have written books telling us what they are going to do, and they are doing it! We must wake up!

    Greg, “the end” you are describing are the events of Daniel 12 and the book of Revelation unfolding. There is NO MORE TIME LEFT!! We are on the cusp of “the time of trouble” described in Daniel 12 and the fulfilling of the prophecies in the book of Revelation. Just the other day (January 9) we saw this headline: ‘Pope Francis’ Calls for Collaboration With World’s Religions, Those Who ‘Meet God in Different Ways’ (

    As the net tightens and the economy craters, I believe we will find a cashless system replacing paper currency so those behind the NWO can control buying and selling (see Rev. 13:17). We are at the end…

    Our only hope is to get into God’s word and come to know Him while there is scant time life. God desires to save everyone on this planet, but as it was in the days of Noah, most will not even walk into the safety of the ark. God bless us all as we weather the coming storm.


    • Greg Hunter

      “Fear Not” God the Father is in control. This will go according to God’s plan and he wins-they lose.

  79. John D

    Shadow of Doubt
    So what is your point ?

    • Shadow of Doubt

      John D,
      In the military there are weapons and accessories that are recognized “force multipliers”. In times of tumult and strife, silver and gold have traditionally had that same function. The value of PM’s usually trumps paper currency in times of uncertainty. As one professor shared with me regarding his escaping from Nazi Germany, his opportunity worked only because the means i.e. the appeal of gold was many times that of the existing currency. So when is one to best determine silver or gold’s true value– in a manipulated market or when the market is unemcumbered?

  80. anymouse

    Greg, you Are one of too few people performing a true service to us all.

    • Greg Hunter

      T.hank you Any. I am worn out after the WNW. I essentially work all week on it collecting material.

  81. John D

    Shadow of Doubt
    I understand the importance of owning precious metals. I look at them as insurance against economic catastrophe. It just irritates me when PM dealers try to spark interest by saying the price is going to be much higher. Even if that is true that is not the reason I own silver and gold. And when it does go up will I exchange my metal for paper?
    Probably not so price is irrelevant.

  82. Keith. wilson

    At the end of ww2.Thirty thousand German war criminals,where able with the help of the Vatican to move to south america.They bribed the catholic church, with looted concentration camp gold and diamonds and other stolen goods to buy a new life at the far side of the world.This is what smart people purchase pm metals for.When your country is finished your currency is toilet and your family can start again.When you look at what the ww2 Germans purchased in south america, it was virtually all farms and ranches.
    All the best in 2016.Your going to need it.

    • Faith

      Wilson, I agree. I view PMs as insurance and portable. The US has started to put controls on people with passports. Owe money to the IRS? Your passport can be taken. Want to go fight with ISIS in the Middle East and return to the US? Not a big deal.

      I always remember how Germany locked people down and they were unable to leave. If their is one thing that motivates me it is the idea of being locked down and immobilized and told that I am no longer free.

      Operation Paperclip also meant that the US moved a number of Germans, including Nazis, to the US and gave them jobs.

  83. roary

    340,390,240 lbs convert to troy ounces

    340390240lb 0oz= 4,964,023,998t oz 16.06890dwt

    weight and mass conversion.
    Amount: 1 pound (lb – lbs) in weight
    Equals: 14.58 troy ounces (oz t – ozt)
    world population 7.2 billion
    roughly 5 billion ounces of gold
    or .694 ounces per person
    Not enough gold to go to a gold standard
    As the population grows everyone would become poorer
    If gold floats then it is no different that what we have now.

    • Greg Hunter

      Good math but how does the stories of elite wanting to “depopulate” figure in to the equation? Not giving you a hard time, just adding another angle.

      • roary

        To depopulate is going to be difficult. I have afriend that says the UN agreed in 1949 to reduce the population. I told him that they have not been very succesful at it. More recently I feel the need to be on guard for mega wealthy men that will live for hundreds of years.

  84. roary

    We live in a wonderful country.We all want to make it better. We fear change, though fear is forced upon us. Things get out of control somtimes because of inaction.When we don’t pay our bills in time we default.We should have paid them .
    IN the event of default the US will cease to exist , picked apart. We aren’t to big to fail.We are too big to save.

  85. Jim Mooney

    The politician’s solution to the damage they’ve done has always been to wave the flag and start a glorious war.

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