Civil War Cycle Heating up in America – Charles Nenner (#2)

By Greg Hunter’s (Click here for Part #1)

Renowned geopolitical and financial cycle expert Charles Nenner thinks the probability for war and civil unrest is coming around in an intense cycle not seen for decades. Nenner says, “Years ago when we talked about my war cycles, I said I am more worried about internal social war in the United States than outside wars. I think there is a bigger chance in the United States than in Europe. They say it’s Trump’s fault . . . . I say it’s the other way around. If the Democrats would just get things organized and people would not get that angry. . . . The media will always take the other side, so they will never solve it. I think it is the Democrats whose fault it is that all these killings are there and not the Republicans. . . . So, there is a cycle of social unrest in the United States, which is 60 years old. So, you go back to what happened in the 1960’s. It could explode, and I think it is going to explode, and there is going to be a major problem. . . . I don’t know how bad it is going to be, but based on cycles, it has to be worse than the 1960’s. Each cycle always is worse. . . . WWII was worse than WWI, so every cycle becomes worse than the first cycle. . . . I don’t feel comfortable living in the United States anymore because people are so aggressive on everything. I went to the airport and I asked where the men’s room was, and they almost killed me. They said there was no men’s room. It’s called a ‘people room.’ I said I was sorry, you don’t have to be so aggressive.”

Externally, there is still much risk coming from Nenner’s war cycle. Nenner says, “One mistake and it could ignite the whole situation. Now, we have the thing with Russia going on. It could come from anywhere. It’s just a dangerous period.”

Nenner has gotten the attention of some world leaders because he is forecasting a coming war cycle. Nenner says, “I am going to tell you a secret that I have not shared with anybody. You know that I was approached by a delegation of Russians, (in 2012) and I was invited to Russia because Mr. Putin has watched my war cycles and he is very interested. I’ve been already, and I just gave you a clue as to what’s going on behind the scenes. . . . If you look at my website, you see me on Moscow 1 Channel with Putin.”

Nenner will not disclose what he told Putin about his war cycle work, but he added that he “Works with the Chinese government also, and people in the East are esoteric and not as rational as the West likes to believe. . . . I find it interesting that I was on television with Putin and no American ever approached me as to what is going on over there. So, the whole world is in disarray.”

Nenner also talks about Germany’s Deutsche Bank, which the IMF has branded the “most dangerous bank in the world,” and the long term outlook is not rosy.

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  1. Paul in OZ

    Probably the most interesting viewpoints of any of your guests … the cycle (Nenner) and trends (Celente), predictive linguistics (High) see things differently … I do not think any show caused me to raise my eyebrows more than this one.

    • Anthony Australia

      Could you hear the truth in his voice, he didn’t flinch.

    • Rob

      I agree Paul as history(His-story) is completely “esoteric” and Father only reveals what is coming to a small group:

      Amos 3:7 Surely the Lord Jehovah will do nothing, except he reveal his secret unto his servants the prophets.

      This is the next small group that Father has given His Son Jesus to work with in these last days:

      Revelation 14:1 And I saw, and behold, the Lamb standing on the mount Zion, and with him a hundred and forty and four thousand, having his name, and the name of his Father, written on their foreheads.

      “They” are already out in their wilderness waiting to nourish the broader church called the woman that Father is about to drive into that wilderness through tribulation:

      Revelation 12:5-6 And she was delivered of a son, a man child, who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and unto his throne. (6) And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that there THEY may nourish her a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

      Moses took God’s children into the wilderness and so must this manchild in this end of the ages for His story must repeat globally:

      1 Corinthians 10:11 Now these things happened unto them by way of example; and they were written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the ages are come.

      Ecclesiastes 3:15 That which is hath been long ago; and that which is to be hath long ago been: and God seeketh again that which is passed away.

      Prepare accordingly as this test is final:

  2. FC

    Obviously Charles is buying paper gold and silver if he is selling the highs and buying the lows.
    Too risky for me as one will be left holding paper when there’s no physical available.

    • Frederick

      I’m buying Physical an holding diversified 33/33/33 Gold Silver and some Dollars and Euros just in case I agree paper is NOT the place to be

      • paul ...

        Frederick … you are right “paper is not the place to be” … most people believe the “fake” Fed’s lies that inflation is less then 2% and that we are currently in a depressionary environment where “cash is scarce” and the “banks are having liquidity problems” … to comprehend “the shear outrageous magnitude” of the “fake” Fed’s lie … consider that back in 1980 there was only 132 billion US dollars in existence … while today there are 3,304 billion dollars in existence … that’s 25 times more US dollars in existence today then back in 1980 (and the Fed calls this deflation??) … and then the Fed “tries to cover up all their monetary inflation” by putting chains on the CPI to hurt ordinary Americans even more … the question I’ve been asking myself is … what price should silver should sell for (at the next silver market peak) with “25 times more US dollars in existence now” then in 1980? … as it turns out … it is a simple calculation anyone can do … at the “peak of the silver market back in 1980” one ounce of silver cost $50 … therefore … at the coming peak for silver (likely about 2023) one ounce of silver should sell for about $1250 US dollars (on a constant US dollar basis) … $50 x 25 … and doing the same for gold ($800 x 25) means one ounce of gold should sell for $20,000 dollars!! … but if Trump gets the Fed to do additional QE money printing to bail out the farmers the above gold and silver calculations will turn out to be even higher!!!

      • Freebrezer

        Fred – if holding physical I would sell the Euros and by Swiss franks … the Swiss are a lot more likely to be around after everything goes kaput!

        • Frederick

          Freebreezer thanks for the free advice Might just do that Cheers

    • jennifer ohman

      Yes he is because he gives trade recommends. Trading is for making money in the markets and his business is to try to make money with his trade recommendations for his subscribers and his clients Markets use paper products for investing and trading. He makes recommendations utilizing GLD, futures, stock indexes, currencies and individual stocks. Some of his recommendations are very short-term in nature. When I subscribed to his service I did not see any buy and hold recommendations. But that’s not what traders do and realize, that by definition, if you are trading cycles you are not buying and holding for ever. You are holding for the life of the cycle that you are trading.
      Regarding silver, Nenner’s view was just so so on it right now, However, Gold has put in a significant bottoming formation and so I built a position during this time. It has broken out of it to the upside and is now in a clear uptrend. Silver has just begun to do the same. It can be expected to begin accelerating now/soon to the upside, if gold holds its gains and continues to move higher. I see silver as a buy right now, as the risk/ reward profile is favorable now and so I have built a position as silver been accumulating over the last 3-4 weeks.

  3. Jodyp

    I’m sure glad I didn’t wait for research to tell me when to buy silver.

    • Jodyp

      I know, I know. He’s talking paper. Enjoyed.

    • paul ...

      Good for you Jody … you have to remember that forecasters must “for their own economic reasons” be more interested in getting their subscribers into a market “when they can be sure they won’t lose their subscribers” … so they will “always wait” until things are “very very clear” on their charts to do a recommendation (i.e. for instance like telling you to buy silver when it is breaking out to “all time new highs” over $60 dollars per ounce) which would be “a safer call” for forecasters … then telling their subscribers to buy silver at $16 dollars … because subscribers who buy low “have a greater chance of getting frustrated” when prices do not moving up “as fast as they would like”!!

  4. Anthony Australia

    Greg could you please try and get John Adams The Economist from Australia on your show. The country needs his voice to be catapulted globally, we need all the help we can get and your platform is just perfect for this.

  5. Jerry

    Time is running out.

    I am not a China pumper, but it is, and has been, clear for years that China has been preparing to throw the United States under the bus.
    Call the tariffs what they are. A stall tactic. There’s only so much President Trump can do to postpone the currency reset and he knows it. He is fighting not only the deep state on several fronts, but globalist who are imbedded not only in our government, but our corporations as well. Like parasites they have sucked the host dry, and are looking for fresh blood.

    • Jerry

      These are China pumpers.

      And guess what? They’re in our banking system world wide. Go to the working group and see who sits on the board for yourself. Let’s see, Hank Paulsen, and Timothy Giethner. Ring any bells ? Folks America has already been sold, lock, stock and barrel to these thief’s. This is not going to end well for any of us when they’re done draining our our wealth so protect yourself. Evidently President Trump knows he can’t fix a broken system and that’s why he’s not concerned about a budget, or the debt ceiling. He’s playing against the house when you consider the globalist control the banks so the odds are against him. There’s only so much one man can do.

  6. Nick de la Gaume

    Nenner is sooooo cool!

    • john

      Yes – he can sing as well – check out his website!

  7. paul ...

    You know … I wouldn’t be so worried about deflation as Nenner seems to be … seems Nenner ‘has been taken in” by the “fake Fed” … the Fed tells us they can’t (no matter how hard they try) get the inflation rate up to 2% … when we all know from John Williams at Shadow Stats (and the prices we pay for screws, nails, a rib roast, or king crab legs, etc., etc.) that the real inflation rate is 10% or more … Nenner should not be so concerned about undermining public confidence in Fed paper … he should tell us straight out that “the Fed is lying to us about the inflation rate” and is not acting in the best interest of the American people nor the economy … we all know the Chinese are printing fiat money like crazy to weaken the Yuan relative to the dollar … we know the Japanese are printing fiat money like crazy to weaken the Yen relative to the dollar … we know the Europeans are printing fiat money like crazy to weaken the Euro relative to the dollar … etc., etc. … resulting in the fiat US dollar staying relatively strong in comparison and thus continuing to give us balance of payments problems … this is even though the US is also crazily inflating its fiat currency at 10% per year (i.e Shadow Stats) … this means “everyone in the world” is crazily inflating their fiat currency (and by more then 10% per year to keep their fiat paper weaker then the US dollar) … therefore it is clearly obvious “we are being lied to” … the deflation story is an “absolute fabrication” … every country in the world is inflating their fiat money supply by 10% and yet we are bombarded by “fake deflation stories” … the Fed lies through its teeth telling us that inflation is 2% and that there is “a deflation problem” … and that they can only solve the deflation problem by printing more money” (QE to infinity) … and every year we see the spending limit increased because we can’t balance our budget … extra trillions have to be borrowed into existence and spent for non-beneficial purposes like weapons and war … we are told all this spending (of money we don’t have) is necessary because we are in a “deflationary environment” … when the truth is we are in an “inflationary environment” … we are told war is necessary (to get us out of our depressionary cycles) … thus the “war cycle” Nenner talks about … which is of great interest to governments … because “all wars are hyper inflationary” … thus war is seen as beneficial because it can be used to inflate the money supply even more and said “to fight deflation” … seems governments and the Fed “is trying to make us believe” that the debt problem is currently being solved by defaulting on the debt (deflation) … “when in reality” (right before our very eyes) they are solving the debt problem “by inflating it away” with massive worldwide fiat money printing!! … so lets get to the bottom line … are we going to “wait” for Nenner to tell us when to by silver?? … or do we use the brains God gave us (to see all the money supply inflation that is being created) and buy silver “now” as it is just beginning to break out … see the chart below … rather then cautiously “waiting for Nenner’s charts” to give the “all clear signal” … yes, we can wait to more confidently be told to buy silver (but that may be when it breaks out over $60 dollars per ounce)!! …

    • paul ...

      Remember … once silver breaks $20 it can rapidly move to the $40 to $60 dollar level very rapidly …

      • paul ...

        Another $40 dollars and gold will have “closed the gap” at the $1500 – $1550 level … which is very very bullish (but there could be “a little consolidation at this level” which for Stan is good news so he can short more gold) … but as I said “closing the gap” is extremely bullish so any consolidation here should be used to “add to positions” not sell short … for the ensuing Christmas rally will likely drive gold “over” $2000 dollars per ounce!! …

        • K. Wayne

          Interim resistance at $1525. Now currently trading at a touch under $1510 in o/seas markets. Once broken then onwards to the $1700-1750 level. That will be the test.
          Paul Tudor Jones said recently…….”once Gold takes out the $1400 level it will move rather quickly to $1700″.
          That’s not a number he has randomly selected. It’s a critical support/ now resistance level.
          A lot will depend on what happens with the Dollar. In my view if the DXY goes under 96.5 then gold will appreciate dramatically. That’s when the $2000 comes into play.
          Up until now Gold hasn’t been taking notice of the strong Dollar. Its been working off the usual suspects…. in “Fear” and the China/Hong Kong issues(flight to safety of Capital). It will react violently once/if the dollar tanks. Cannot also discount the threat of any market turmoil from this late summer into Autumn (next 2-3 months). I have a sense that this quarter will be very good for Gold, the Miners and the Gold Bugs alike.

  8. Joe Lalonde


    I have a relative whose has been in the antiques game for over 50 years now. Gorgeous stuff he has BUT…
    The downside is losing the nostalgia over the decades has increased his stock as he has less and less buyers.
    I really impressed him with my collection of the last couple of decades.
    I have noticed that we have sacrificed quality for quantity on many levels.
    I love the creativity of many of the sculptured carvings in stone and semi-precious stone that is extremely cheap. Also collected much semi-precious jewelry that will always have a demand for.

  9. Doug

    I have gone to Mr. Nenner’s web site but I cannot find any Video’s of him and Putin. Do you have a link or know what network he was on (RT) when he did the interview? He is a very interesting and “matter of fact” person which gives him much more credibility…too me any way.
    Great interview.

    • iwitness02

      Doug, if I got it right, Nenner said that he was on Russian TV. He wouldn’t say if he met with Putin. (or maybe my media filter is clogged)

    • Paul in OZ

      Doug, I just joined Mr. Nenner’s site, I have not been able to locate it either and have requested support from their webmaster. Should I get a response indicating how this can be viewed, I will share the result here.

      • Greg Hunter

        Go to this page: It is video 28 of 55.

        • Paul in OZ

          WOW .. no sound (at least for me) … 7 years ago, and no Putin with Nenner shots, not getting a warm and fuzzy from that … hope someone can set me straight, because that video seems a bit suspect for my liking. Anyone … please help me figure this out.

          • Frederick

            Paul I think your gubbermint doesnt like what Charles is saying brother

  10. Coaster

    Greg, This had to be the best Charles NENNER interview yet. I have listened to them all and I must tell you that in the beginning I was somewhat sceptical with regards to his info. I thought he was a “little out there” if you know what I mean. But overtime, I took his advise to check out his info and now I think his info is better than anyone’s you have on your program.
    Over the past couple of years I have been close to selling my precious metals but held off because NENNER and others have said it is going up. It is up significantly from what I bought it for so to you and your guests, thank you.
    I believe NENNER and I believe in his cycles. PUTIN is a smart man and if he is asking for NENNER’S views, than others should be as well. From a global perspective, we are small potatoes here in Canada so what our stupid politicians do has little influence globally.
    President TRUMP has influence. He is brilliant and he seems to me to be playing chess and always thinking one to two steps ahead of the trolls, demoncrats and anti trumpers. I don’t think he is going to relent and there is no way he will not be re-elected. He is playing the long game and is playing to win, not just for Americans but for all of us.

    • paul ...

      Actually Coaster … we should be “very worried” that other governments besides the US (i.e. Putin and China) is seriously thinking about “using war” to enhance domestic production (of weapons of war) or to begin to start “their own continuous non-stop wars” to boost their domestic economies!!

      • paul ...

        Imagine a world where China and Russia (in addition to the US) go around the entire planet “starting continuous wars” just so they can sell their S400 missiles, stealth fighter planes and laser death rays to boost their domestic economies … talk about Hell on Earth!! … the implications of both Russia and China being interested in Nenner’s “war cycle” is very bad news indeed!!!

  11. JC

    Nenner says the Dow is going down to 5000. Martin Armstrong says Dow is going up to 35000.

    • paul ...

      JC … Take Armstrong’s number for the Dow (35,000) and divide it by Nenner’s number for the Dow (5000) and we get a multiple of 7 times … then take Sinclair’s number for gold ($50,000) and divide it by Dent’s number for gold ($700) and we get a multiple of about 70 times … it doesn’t take a genius to figure what market one should be playing in to make the greatest potential multiple on your money or take the smaller loss … think about it … isn’t it worse being in stocks if the Dow falls from 26,000 to 5000 (then being in gold that falls from $1400 to $700) … and isn’t it worse being in stocks if the Dow rises from 26,000 to 35,000 (then being in gold that rises from $1400 to $50,000)!!

      • paul ...

        Of course mutual fund managers don’t think like this … they are “fixated on the stock market” where they take the chance of “losing the greatest amount of money” for their investors … in order to gain “the least amount of profits” for their investors!!

      • JC

        Interesting calculations, thanks.

        • paul ...

          JC … It should get even more interesting when people who buy silver (now at $17 dollars) can sell it at $1250 per ounce at the next silver peak and pay off all their debts!!

          • jim

            PAUL, Yes everyone should be buying silver , the writing is on the wall, It is more heavily manipulated than gold, jp morgan has a boat load, and it is constantly being used up in industy and electronics. A no brainer buy.

  12. Mike

    There was a time when money in a regular savings account could earn a 5% yield. One of the great crimes against humanity is people on a fixed income being forced to chase higher yields in ever more risky assets. Charles was very insightful with his view that the small investor was being driven into poverty by the rich and powerful.

    • JC

      5% yield, risk free. Those were the days my friend, those were the days.

      • Frederick

        There’s no such thing as “risk free”

  13. GrayEagle48

    🇺🇸⭐️⭐️🇺🇸 News article KVOA News 4 Tuscon: “At least 10 killed in ongoing shootout in Agua Prieta” The second amendment was never more important than now. We are not in a civil war, we are in the midst of a communist style overthrow of America.
    News Article 100percentfedup “Denver City Council Winner Promises Communism “By Any Means Necessary”
    If America goes down, so does all of our allies! Keep informed, spread the word. My opinion.
    No one should give up their guns. And no government should require them to. Catch up with me on YouTube. article. Never Give Up Your Guns. Click my name to read the article. Scroll down

  14. al

    So Nenner basically says the market will go down during Trump’s first term. It did the same through Bush Jr.’s first term and the pea-brain got “elected” again.
    Trump is a genius and a BOSS, he is going to be re-elected no matter what the market does.

    I saw a news clip today of hundreds of people in NYC running for their lives thinking there was a mass shooter because a motorcycle simply backfired a few times. People are on edge, especially in filth ridden globalist pollution buckets like NYC. That’s what they want, scared sheep on edge. Socialists love fear.

    Let’s take it one step further… Using a trading analogy, most people act with the crowd so when gold and silver hit a high point, most sheeple will be running to precious metals driving the price further up to astronomic levels because of Fear of Missing Out (FOMO). Get ready for $50,000 gold.

    I have a solution for mass shootings. Pass a law that in large gatherings, for every ten people present without a gun there should be one concealed weapon carrier. Anyone thinking of shooting up a place will have exactly 1 second to live as near-by trained gun carriers will make hamburger meat out of the shooter.
    Ever wonder why mass shooters pick places where there are no guns to do their deed?
    It’s called self defense, something Socialists hate.

  15. eddiemd

    Did note last week that the Emergency Broadcasting System was tested multiple times here on the local channels last week. Heard that it was tested again last night.

    Getting ready to bypass the propaganda corporate media and go directly to the people.

    Curious as to what is going on with short wave operators. Any out there with insight? I was an 18E in the Army back in the early-mid 1980’s and used HF(DMDG with the PRC-70)/VHF/UHF systems along with Morse and early SATCOM with inline secure voice. Huge changes now.

    Space warfare will be the first battlefield to eliminate comms/GPS and weapon system coordination. The Chinese and Russians are prepared already.

    The USA using Russian rockets to get into space. That will not work out well.

    • William Stanley

      Re: “Curious as to what is going on with short wave operators.”
      I’m assuming that you haven’t kept up and don’t have an FCC Ham license. Go to the (Amateur Radio Relay League). It’s a big association with a lot of resources. The info there should help you get back in the game. Do you have specific questions? Maybe I can help.

      • William Stanley

        BTW, there are Ham radio clubs almost everywhere that have knowledgeable people who would be more than glad to talk radio with you and get you going again.

        • William Stanley

          And some of them (not me) are “special operations” guys.

    • Bill B

      Don’t overlook the humble CB radio. I have one , have an antenna for it with a large alligator clip for attaching to my vehicle. Hook it up to the battery and you are ready. I also bought a 50 watt amplifier to increase the radios range. Got the radio and the
      amplifier stored in an emp proof container
      You would be surprised at how many people have CB radios

  16. mark

    Greg –

    Interesting observation that your users don’t take Nenner up on his free service.

    The implication is that after giving other interviews he gets more hits.

    This is actually a very good comment on your followers.

    I’ve been to Nenner’s site many times (usually after each of your interviews) and his sign-up page is still just http, not https.

    Nobody should ever post information on an insecure webpage so if Nenner wants people to signup he ought to build a more secure site. HTTPS is a pretty basic technology at this point in time. You obviously know this because your pages are secure.

    Regarding Nenner’s predictions, like others doing cycle work (including Armstrong), he gets some right and gets some wrong. For example, as I recall in an earlier interview Nenner said bitcoin would be $100k by the end of 2018. (And I’ve noticed that you haven’t discussed bitcoin with him since that terrible call.) That said, I do like the guy and he always gives a good interview.

    Thank you for continually having the highest ethical and moral standards, and for the very high caliber of guests.

    Best wishes,


  17. iwitness02

    “Then out of the blue you have two Americas”
    We all know that we have been working up to this. Now it has come into full bloom.
    I think the globullist will push public violence all the way to Nov. 2020. They want to put us in a position where we will beg government for gun control. That will work on a lot of people. It won’t work with all people. The idea of civil war/anarchy is very believable to me. It seems as though the decision has been made to getterdone. Abolish the first and second amendments, and freedom in general. MSM works overtime on agitating the crap out of everyone that believes in individual freedom. We do have two Americas. For how long, and what comes afterwards? Mankind has a problem on their hands. In my mind, it all stems from the fact that fallen man is not capable of ruling himself. Now we are going to prove it. Once and for all.
    Just remember that we WILL reach the point that is talked about in Psalms 46: 9, 10
    He maketh wars to cease unto the end of the earth; he breaketh the bow, and cutteth the spear in sunder; he burneth the chariot in the fire.
    Be still, and know that I am God:



    • Diane

      I share you caution.

  19. David Dansker

    Greg, Thanks for this fantastic interview. I was able to see part #2. I concur with Nenner on huge potential for civil unrest

  20. Alex

    Fox “News” is pushing for gun control and bans on high capacity magazines in the wake of El Paso. Fox is no different than CNN. They have the same breed of owners and producers. Fox is “controlled opposition” (learn what that means) to CNN. It’s a false paradigm. They have the same agenda to get you unarmed, poor, devoid of Christ, accepting of perversions against nature, and dependent on the State.

  21. paul ...

    Here is how China likely plans to make Trump a “one term” President … … Trump needs the Fed to begin Quantitative Easing as soon as the 4th Qtr if possible … everyone should realize we are on the path to Modern Monetary Theory (MMT) “where we print to infinity” just like was done in Zimbabwe … Trump needs to bail out the farmers the same way Paulson bailed out the banksters … this means inflation folks (not deflation as Nenner thinks) … remember … if the Fed and the bankers “really wanted to solve our debt problems” using deflation … they would have let the banks and brokerage houses fail in 2009 along with AIG and Lehman Brothers (but they didn’t … did they … they chose “to inflate their way out”) … and this is why … everyone needs to buy physical gold and silver … and why we are now seeing both gold and silver breakout to the upside!!

    • paul ...

      The writing is on the wall folks … as farm bankruptcies soar and agricultural debt loads become unbearable … Trump “will move” to bail out the farmers the same way the banksters were bailed out … and the Fed is going to be forced somehow by Trump to launch Quantitative Easing … the coming “massive inflation” is so “in your face” it’s amazing people still listen to the deflationist propaganda spewed by the Fed and allow them to get away with chaining the Consumer Price Index (CPI)!! …

      • paul ...

        As everyone can see from the following chart … … the multi-year pennant pattern formed by gold has been broken to the upside … if we extend the 17 year rising support line (1 to 3) … any correction in gold should not fall below it for any length of time … then once gold takes out its old high at about $1900 … gold should rise dramatically to about $3400 “possibly no later then 2023”!!

        • paul ...

          This is assuming that there is no world re-set agreement … that fixes gold “overnight or over a weekend” to between $10,000 and $50,000 per ounce … immediately nullifying all the banksters massive debts in one shot (with the tier one gold they’ve bought) … people who have credit card and other debt should also have one ounce of gold for every $10,000 of debt they owe (so they can also take advantage of any re-set jubilee for the banksters)!!

      • Freebrezer

        Paul – Remember that the African swine flu wiped out over 1/3 to 1/2 of the pigs in China. Thus China’s demand/imports for soy (main pig feed) are way, way down … i.e a lot less pigs to fatten up! China got lucky in that they do not need the feed this year and can thumb their nose to the tariffs. Second – with the cold spring and scattered/ late USA planting, the USA soy crop is not going be as robust. The Chinese would be wise to buy all they can now before the price skyrockets … supply and demand. I was driving last week through three of the “big” corn belt states and there a whole lot of fields that did not get planted!

  22. paul ...

    Strange way for the neocons to win the hearts and minds of people (who are eating their cats and dogs) by blockading their food shipments??? …

  23. allan

    Great interview. You mentioned in the interview that even though Mr. Nenner offers a free 2 month subscription, few people take him up on it. I went to his website to check it out. What kept me from taking advantage of the subscription was the fact that they want your phone number and the best time to call. I cannot speak for everyone but l don’t need or want a phone call. That was sufficient to make me decide not to subscribe.

  24. Jerry

    Please take the time to read this report.

    As I have been outlining the past several years, China has been preparing to break away from the federal reserve dollar based global exchange system, and here is the proof. Each time the federal reserve lowers interest rates, it puts pressure on the Chinese Yuan and at some point, the Chinese will refuse the dollar in global exchange at its current value. You can almost chart the timing of their launch by watching their gold purchases escalate each day. The clock is ticking Greg and most Americans are asleep at the wheel.

    • paul jr.

      The amount of transactions processed by China’s system is still very small overall. People however like using percentage terms to compare things to make it sound much bigger than it is.

  25. H. Craig Bradley


    Is he selling his stock positions or just suggesting you sell yours and then reenter the market later. Well, if timing a market was all that easy, he and the rest of us would have millions of dollars. Its easy to recommend a trade or make a forecast when your money or your client’s money is not on the line. Professional money managers never completely sell out of their positions. Its just not done in the industry. Just saying.

    By the way, Gerald Clenente (Trends Forecast) says we are at the wee beginning of a coming Great Depression. He forecasts the global economy will get much worse in future years. Sure hope not. Well, we all have our own crystal ball I guess. Want my forecast? I’ll just keep quiet and listen to all the experts. Let them talk.

  26. Country Codger

    Thank you Mr. Nenner,
    People think I am crazy for bringing up super cycles but yet you and I almost always agree. I have the war cycle peaking in Spring of 2020 and running until Spring of 2023 +/-. However, as Paul above rightly pointed out, you have the 7 times cycles that could kick in Spring of 2023. (Lev. 26 = 7 times cycles but you must multiply each cycle.)
    Great work!
    Lo Iyrah,
    p.s. remember this cycle should dissipate about the 15th of this month. Next one, late fall. It could be very interesting because it s such a short cycle time.

  27. Martin

    Inflation can be very confusing for many. That is why the big banks like it so much, (it helps them steal your money without you knowing it). I think any explanation will not be totally accurate.
    At the 6:15 minute mark (part 1), where you ask about food inflation, Charles Nenner missed your point. My take is that it may be so obvious to him, in the way he thinks, that he didn’t grasp your point.
    If you take a piece of paper and plot the prices of many consumers items, over the last year. You will have many plots, that all increase over the year. Some go up faster than others. If you now draw an average line through the centre of all plots, you have the average increase for the year. This average may well tie up with the figure from John Williams at , currently showing inflation at about 9%. Forget the government figures.
    Now all of the plots above this average line are actually increasing in price in real terms, (inflationary).
    And all of the plots below the line are actually decreasing in price in real terms, (deflationary).
    Now if food is one of the plots that is below this average line, then food is not increasing as much as the average items (or real inflation). So that would mean that although food seems to be getting more expensive each week and year, it is actually your spending power that is going down, i.e. the dollar losing value.
    So if shadow inflation figure is now 9% and food is going up at 7%, then actually food is getting cheaper. Or said another way, food prices are not keeping up with real inflation. So food manufacturers are actually losing out (getting squeezed). So although it seems that food is getting more expensive in dollar terms, in real terms it may be getting cheaper, (deflationary) and this is the confusion caused be having inflation.
    Another way to look at this is, if you plot food over gold, you would see that food is going down.
    Also it’s no use looking at the food manufacturers profit for the year, it’s just a number, it doesn’t mean anything on its own. Yes the profit (number of $) may be going up compared to last year, but again if this profit increases by 7% and real inflation is 9%, they are actually becoming less profitable.

  28. Pete

    Hello everyone. I think Charles is a super bright guy and does good cycle work. That being said I’ve been a subscriber and it’s not as easy as he makes it out. His service is a good tool to use but it’s slightly misleading. He doesn’t give you exact days and levels to buy or sell at so honestly it’s hard for him to be wrong in a big way. My subscription is ending and I’m not renewing it. If he gave solid buy and sell signals and targets I might consider going back. Like I said. He’s really good but his buy and sell signals are vague. I’d give him a B. Certainly better than most.

  29. Country Codger

    Oooops! We didn’t make it.

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